Right wing nuts thread (1 Viewer)

[DaveXA]

Wasn't sure where to put this, but we need a thread for the wing nuts. Lauren Boebert.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

does he think the people are as tall as plane? lol

 

[MT15]

does he think the people are as tall as plane? lol

I have no idea what he’s trying to highlight, like, at all.

 

[RobF]

I have no idea what he’s trying to highlight, like, at all.

I think what they're going for is the notion that if you can't see the crowd reflected in the plane, then the crowd must not exist.

That's bogus reasoning of course, because that's not how that works. But the real problem is, as it always is with these conspiracy theories, that even if someone doesn't understand that and it sounds plausible to them, if they'd just take a second to look at the other evidence - or even just think! - it immediately becomes very obvious that, yes, the crowd did exist, because of course it did.

So just basic reasoning; if there was not, in fact, a crowd there, and fake images were being used to pretend there was, it'd require a vast conspiracy to cover that up. Every news agency covering it would have to be using the fake photos. Every journalist and photographer there would have to be in on it, as would everyone else there.

And other evidence, all the other images and videos from the event, taken by professional photographers for news agencies. Even the quickest glance on alamy and getty show a very real crowd. E.g.:

Basically, as with all these conspiracy theories, they immediately fall apart with the slightest bit of thought, and all anyone sharing them is actually showing is that they are, 1) Very gullible, 2) Not inclined to thinking, and 3) Could do with some therapy to work out why they don't want to engage with reality.

 

[UriUT]

I think what they're going for is the notion that if you can't see the crowd reflected in the plane, then the crowd must not exist.

That's bogus reasoning of course, because that's not how that works. But the real problem is, as it always is with these conspiracy theories, that even if someone doesn't understand that and it sounds plausible to them, if they'd just take a second to look at the other evidence - or even just think! - it immediately becomes very obvious that, yes, the crowd did exist, because of course it did.

So just basic reasoning; if there was not, in fact, a crowd there, and fake images were being used to pretend there was, it'd require a vast conspiracy to cover that up. Every news agency covering it would have to be using the fake photos. Every journalist and photographer there would have to be in on it, as would everyone else there.

And other evidence, all the other images and videos from the event, taken by professional photographers for news agencies. Even the quickest glance on alamy and getty show a very real crowd. E.g.:

Basically, as with all these conspiracy theories, they immediately fall apart with the slightest bit of thought, and all anyone sharing them is actually showing is that they are, 1) Very gullible, 2) Not inclined to thinking, and 3) Could do with some therapy to work out why they don't want to engage with reality.

I saw an argument recently that tried to seed doubt to the Apollo mission. Two images side by side. One of the moon from the earth's perspective and one of the earth from the moon. The question then was, why does the earth look tiny in the Apollo pictures, when it is about 4 times larger? But the moon looks larger from the earth.

Just like this bogus reflection argument. It's a magic trick of fooling the ignorant to something they commonly perceive: reflections should be identical but reverse. Given that the image is authentic, that plane is curved. Apply simple optics rule maybe?

They use erroneous reasoning, something they aren't sophisticated to understand, and conclude something more to their liking.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

no one is better at conspiracy theories than the MAGAs. they are giving flat earthers a run for their money..

 

[MT15]

Like the good little cultists they are, MAGA is falling all over themselves trying to “prove” that MI rally was AI. How did so many people get so stupid, honestly it’s scary. This shouldn’t be entertained by anyone in any way, and the fact that Trump even believes it should be disqualifying.

 

[MT15]

That Malaysian guy, Cheong?, who is a big Trump influencer posted that the crowds were clearly not AI and Trump’s advisors were making him look foolish, and he was promptly attacked by many accusing him of being a traitor to Trump and so forth. He just dropped the subject.

Now this tweet by Vivek was quietly deleted. This is a full-on cult with violent tendencies. And the leader is descending into madness. Scary times.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Like the good little cultists they are, MAGA is falling all over themselves trying to “prove” that MI rally was AI. How did so many people get so stupid, honestly it’s scary. This shouldn’t be entertained by anyone in any way, and the fact that Trump even believes it should be disqualifying.

I went and looked, seems like the bearded MAGA guy (who goes by The Older Millenial) deleted his post about AI crowds after he was proven wrong. No follow-up, no mea culpa, no comment at all. Shocked, I tell you.

 

[MT15]

At least he deleted it - the bar is just that low.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

I went and looked, seems like the bearded MAGA guy (who goes by The Older Millenial) deleted his post about AI crowds after he was proven wrong. No follow-up, no mea culpa, no comment at all. Shocked, I tell you.

Where's my shocked (not shocked) face?

 

[bird]

That Malaysian guy, Cheong?, who is a big Trump influencer posted that the crowds were clearly not AI and Trump’s advisors were making him look foolish, and he was promptly attacked by many accusing him of being a traitor to Trump and so forth. He just dropped the subject.

Now this tweet by Vivek was quietly deleted. This is a full-on cult with violent tendencies. And the leader is descending into madness. Scary times.

Of course, Vivek had just loads of experience. And his policies were just so intelligent.

Beyond that Trump actually has little experience. Oh, sure, he was president but nothing that he did or that happened actually imprinted itself in his declining brain. And his policies were nonsense. Although he did achieve something, he had hundreds of thousands die because of his ignorance and arrogance.

But, yeah, it is full on cult.

 

[Optimus Prime]

MARTINSBURG, W.Va. — For 10 years, skateboarders in Martinsburg ollied and tre-flipped in peace on an empty concrete slab, hidden behind trees on an embankment near a busy highway. After the closure of a city-run skate park in 2013, the skaters used wood and cinder blocks to build their own ramps and jumps, with permission from the property’s owner.

A skateboard nailed to a tree, graffiti of grimacing monsters and numerous empty energy-drink cans point to a place that was wholly the skaters’ in spirit — though not legally.

“It takes a lot of work and effort to maintain your own space,” said Chace Amos, a skater who frequented the skate park. “There’s a camaraderie around it.”
Then Tim Pool — a deep-pocketed right-wing video sensation — got in a dispute with the skaters and bought the land the skate park sits on.

Skateboarding in Martinsburg has never been the same.

Pool’s purchase of the improvised skate park has riled skateboarders in West Virginia’s eastern panhandle, where he lives — and sparked a debate about both how much politics and how much of Pool’s money belongs in skateboarding.

Pool downplayed the controversy in an email to The Washington Post.

“The issue seems to be solely with a few people who don’t like me personally,” Pool wrote, pointing to some repairs he’s made to the concrete since the purchase. He claims most of his detractors live outside the town.

For critics of Pool — a former Vice reporter who rose to prominence during the Occupy Wall Street movement — the skate park purchase represents just his latest heel turn.
Pool is now a pro-Trump YouTuber, with a combined 4.4 million subscribers spread across three channels on the site.

He’s perhaps best known for his lengthy nightly YouTube show, which features current events discussions with Pool and members of his entourage, typically joined by controversial conservative internet personalities such as Laura Loomer. Pool’s show has also featured white nationalist leaders and, once, a chaotic interview with Ye, the rapper formerly known as Kanye West, amid his high-profile meltdown.

Even among pro-Trump commentators, Pool stands out for his heated rhetoric, often claiming that the United States is on the verge of a second civil war. On July 25, Pool tweeted that Vice President Kamala Harris is “Hitler and Stalin combined but times 200.”

When he isn’t hobnobbing with internet extremists, Pool rides his skateboard. A lot. He has made a skater-esque beanie into his trademark fashion choice, even wearing it to formal locations such as the Trump White House and Mar-a-Lago, and has built skate ramps at a Maryland compound he’s dubbed the “Skate Mansion.”

Pool’s clashes with the Martinsburg skate park set began in August 2023, when its organizers announced plans for a party to celebrate the park’s 10th anniversary.

Pool, without consulting the organizers of the Martinsburg event, announced on Instagram that he would offer $20,000 in prize money for the event. Loath to associate with Pool’s politics, some skaters posted on Instagram that Pool wasn’t invited to the event and would be removed if he showed up.

“It wasn’t even like we were leftist or anything,” Amos said. “We didn’t want to be associated with that hateful stuff.”

Amid opposition from the skaters, Pool dropped his plans to offer the prize. But a few months later in November 2023, he quietly bought the skate park’s land, purchasing the slab and a nearby building through a limited liability company for $850,000.

“They don’t own the spot,” Pool later said on his show in July 2024, explaining the purchase. “By what right do they have to tell me I can’t stand on a derelict piece of property where they’re squatting?”

Pool has floated using the land to build a much larger skate park, but he made few immediate changes to the property, and he hasn’t banned anyone from skating there. Because nothing but the ownership had changed, skaters realized only belatedly that he had bought the land..............

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www.washingtonpost.com

 

[bird]

MARTINSBURG, W.Va. — For 10 years, skateboarders in Martinsburg ollied and tre-flipped in peace on an empty concrete slab, hidden behind trees on an embankment near a busy highway. After the closure of a city-run skate park in 2013, the skaters used wood and cinder blocks to build their own ramps and jumps, with permission from the property’s owner.

A skateboard nailed to a tree, graffiti of grimacing monsters and numerous empty energy-drink cans point to a place that was wholly the skaters’ in spirit — though not legally.

“It takes a lot of work and effort to maintain your own space,” said Chace Amos, a skater who frequented the skate park. “There’s a camaraderie around it.”
Then Tim Pool — a deep-pocketed right-wing video sensation — got in a dispute with the skaters and bought the land the skate park sits on.

Skateboarding in Martinsburg has never been the same.

Pool’s purchase of the improvised skate park has riled skateboarders in West Virginia’s eastern panhandle, where he lives — and sparked a debate about both how much politics and how much of Pool’s money belongs in skateboarding.

Pool downplayed the controversy in an email to The Washington Post.

“The issue seems to be solely with a few people who don’t like me personally,” Pool wrote, pointing to some repairs he’s made to the concrete since the purchase. He claims most of his detractors live outside the town.

For critics of Pool — a former Vice reporter who rose to prominence during the Occupy Wall Street movement — the skate park purchase represents just his latest heel turn.
Pool is now a pro-Trump YouTuber, with a combined 4.4 million subscribers spread across three channels on the site.

He’s perhaps best known for his lengthy nightly YouTube show, which features current events discussions with Pool and members of his entourage, typically joined by controversial conservative internet personalities such as Laura Loomer. Pool’s show has also featured white nationalist leaders and, once, a chaotic interview with Ye, the rapper formerly known as Kanye West, amid his high-profile meltdown.

Even among pro-Trump commentators, Pool stands out for his heated rhetoric, often claiming that the United States is on the verge of a second civil war. On July 25, Pool tweeted that Vice President Kamala Harris is “Hitler and Stalin combined but times 200.”

When he isn’t hobnobbing with internet extremists, Pool rides his skateboard. A lot. He has made a skater-esque beanie into his trademark fashion choice, even wearing it to formal locations such as the Trump White House and Mar-a-Lago, and has built skate ramps at a Maryland compound he’s dubbed the “Skate Mansion.”

Pool’s clashes with the Martinsburg skate park set began in August 2023, when its organizers announced plans for a party to celebrate the park’s 10th anniversary.

Pool, without consulting the organizers of the Martinsburg event, announced on Instagram that he would offer $20,000 in prize money for the event. Loath to associate with Pool’s politics, some skaters posted on Instagram that Pool wasn’t invited to the event and would be removed if he showed up.

“It wasn’t even like we were leftist or anything,” Amos said. “We didn’t want to be associated with that hateful stuff.”

Amid opposition from the skaters, Pool dropped his plans to offer the prize. But a few months later in November 2023, he quietly bought the skate park’s land, purchasing the slab and a nearby building through a limited liability company for $850,000.

“They don’t own the spot,” Pool later said on his show in July 2024, explaining the purchase. “By what right do they have to tell me I can’t stand on a derelict piece of property where they’re squatting?”

Pool has floated using the land to build a much larger skate park, but he made few immediate changes to the property, and he hasn’t banned anyone from skating there. Because nothing but the ownership had changed, skaters realized only belatedly that he had bought the land..............

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www.washingtonpost.com

Pool is just another punk.

 

[Optimus Prime]

A former New York cop running for Congress was once sued for allegedly detaining an infant, forcing the city to shell out $25,000 to the child’s mother in a settlement.

Republican Alison Esposito is taking on Democratic Representative Pat Ryan in New York’s 18th congressional district which encompasses the upstate cities of Newburgh, Beacon, Kingston, and Poughkeepsie….

However twice in her career as a police officer, New York City paid to settle lawsuits from people who accused her of acting illegally.

Esposito was sued by three Black women in 2005 over civil rights violations. In a lawsuit,the women argued they had been wrongfully detained on suspicion of shoplifting. The city later settled the case for $95,000 and the cases against the women were dismissed.

In 2017, Esposito faced allegations that she arrested and assaulted a baby, with the city paying the child’s mother $25,000 in a settlement.

Esposito and a fellow officer went into an apartment building on East 101st Street in 2016 where they “did unlawfully stop, assault, frisk, handcuff, detain, arrest and imprison” infant Rebecca Cuevas, according to a complaint filed by the child’s mother Chantal Vasquez.

Esposito’s lawyer rejected those allegations in a legal filing. Her defense said that the “plaintiffs’ culpable conduct caused or contributed, in whole or in part, to their injuries or damages.” The city of New York later settled the case for $25,000.…..

GOP House candidate was once sued for arresting an infant

Alison Esposito ‘did not detain or stop, question and frisk an infant,’ spokesperson says

www.independent.co.uk

 

[MT15]

Tim Pool is thinking deep Christo-fascist thoughts.

 

[MT15]

Now that so many have shown that they will say virtually anything in service of a blathering idiot, what will they do when Trump loses and fades away or goes to jail? We know what they are now. How will they slip back to normality? We all know.

 

[bird]

Now that so many have shown that they will say virtually anything in service of a blathering idiot, what will they do when Trump loses and fades away or goes to jail? We know what they are now. How will they slip back to normality? We all know.

Does Levin mean not another politician can sound like a flocking idiot?

 

[MT15]

Putting this here. I was just reading a ProPublica piece on militias this morning, and how membership has surged and the leaders of some of them are ready to push random terroristic acts.

'Active shooters' target JBSA-Lackland, security forced to return fire early Saturday morning

Officials did not say if anyone was hurt in the shootout.

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