Now is not the time to talk about gun control (1 Viewer)

[brandon]

T&P

10 killed in Boulder shooting: Victims identified, suspect charged

Police said 10 people were killed, including an officer, after a shooting at a King Soopers grocery store in Boulder, Colorado.

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[GrandAdmiral]

I'm waiting to see if they're going to classify right-wing extremism as a mental health disorder next...

What we know so far about the massacre at a Texas outlet mall

Police have identified the suspected Allen, Texas, gunman as a 33-year-old man, senior law enforcement source tells CNN. Follow here for live updates.

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[Devildog]

Banning gun sales to young American adults under 21 is unconstitutional, judge rules

A federal judge in Virginia has ruled that a law banning licensed federal firearms dealers from selling handguns to young adults under 21 violates the Second Amendment and is unconstitutional. The ruling came Wednesday. It would allow dealers to sell handguns to 18- to 20-year-olds. Four...

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The right: ACTIVIST JUDGES!!!!

Also the right: It's ok when we do it!!

 

[DaveXA]

Banning gun sales to young American adults under 21 is unconstitutional, judge rules

A federal judge in Virginia has ruled that a law banning licensed federal firearms dealers from selling handguns to young adults under 21 violates the Second Amendment and is unconstitutional. The ruling came Wednesday. It would allow dealers to sell handguns to 18- to 20-year-olds. Four...

apnews.com

The right: ACTIVIST JUDGES!!!!

Also the right: It's ok when we do it!!

Lol, our world is forked.

I know it'll never happen, but the 2nd amendment needs to be scrapped/rewritten.

 

[Optimus Prime]

HB 1147, a bill pending in the Texas house of representatives, is strikingly graphic. It proposes that schools across the state should provide “bleeding control stations” equipped with “tourniquets approved for use in battlefield trauma care by the armed forces of the United States”.

Under the terms of the bill, the bleeding stations would deal with “traumatic injury involving blood loss” – in other words, casualties from a mass shooting. School staff would be trained to use the equipment, in turn passing on such battlefield skills to pupils in third grade upwards.

Third grade typically involves eight- or nine-year-old children.

It has come to this. Should HB 1147 pass, Texas eight-year-olds would be taught how to apply compression bandages and chest seals to the gaping, bloody wounds of their friends and teachers in the event of another mass shooting that many assume to be inevitable.

In a recent debate in the Texas house on the bill, Representative Ann Johnson said she understood why a fellow Democratic lawmaker had devised the scheme but expressed her profound unease about it. “It really worries me that we are training our kids that it’s acceptable for their school to become a war zone.”

There’s a lot of talk about war zones in America these days. Across the country, lives are being lost, families destroyed, communities shattered by a spate of mass shootings that are occurring with alarming frequency.

The bloodletting is expressing itself in maverick ways. In Michigan this week two school districts banned students from wearing backpacks, even see-through ones, after a loaded handgun was discovered in the bag of a – yes – third-grader…….

How America’s fatal gun attraction turned schools into war zones

Texas alone has suffered 17 mass shootings this year and now lawmakers propose ‘battlefield trauma care’ facilities in schools

www.theguardian.com

 

[bird]

HB 1147, a bill pending in the Texas house of representatives, is strikingly graphic. It proposes that schools across the state should provide “bleeding control stations” equipped with “tourniquets approved for use in battlefield trauma care by the armed forces of the United States”.

Under the terms of the bill, the bleeding stations would deal with “traumatic injury involving blood loss” – in other words, casualties from a mass shooting. School staff would be trained to use the equipment, in turn passing on such battlefield skills to pupils in third grade upwards.

Third grade typically involves eight- or nine-year-old children.

It has come to this. Should HB 1147 pass, Texas eight-year-olds would be taught how to apply compression bandages and chest seals to the gaping, bloody wounds of their friends and teachers in the event of another mass shooting that many assume to be inevitable.

In a recent debate in the Texas house on the bill, Representative Ann Johnson said she understood why a fellow Democratic lawmaker had devised the scheme but expressed her profound unease about it. “It really worries me that we are training our kids that it’s acceptable for their school to become a war zone.”

There’s a lot of talk about war zones in America these days. Across the country, lives are being lost, families destroyed, communities shattered by a spate of mass shootings that are occurring with alarming frequency.

The bloodletting is expressing itself in maverick ways. In Michigan this week two school districts banned students from wearing backpacks, even see-through ones, after a loaded handgun was discovered in the bag of a – yes – third-grader…….

How America’s fatal gun attraction turned schools into war zones

Texas alone has suffered 17 mass shootings this year and now lawmakers propose ‘battlefield trauma care’ facilities in schools

www.theguardian.com

Texas lawmakers are gutless turds.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Former President Barack Obama is urging Americans to have a dialogue about gun violence as the U.S. recently surpassed 200 mass shootings so far this year, according to CBS News data.

Obama discussed the challenges of reducing gun violence and how gun ownership has become an "ideological" and "partisan" issue during an exclusive sit-down interview with "CBS Mornings" co-host Nate Burleson. The full interview will air on Tuesday, May 16.

"I think somehow — and there are a lot of historical reasons for this — gun ownership in this country became an ideological issue, and a partisan issue, in ways that it shouldn't be," Obama told Burleson. "It has become sort of a proxy for arguments about our culture wars, you know? Urban versus rural. Race is always an element in these issues. Issues of class and education, and so forth."

The comments come as lawmakers face renewed calls for further gun legislation from family members of shooting victims, activists and constituents. But any action would face staunch resistance in an increasingly divided Congress. "We have to recognize that we can ban these weapons, but there's millions already out there," Louisiana Republican Sen. Bill Cassidy told "CBS Mornings" last week. "And somebody who decides to obtain one illegally, probably can."

Obama on the view of gun ownership in America

 

[Optimus Prime]

Florida governor Ron DeSantis signed a bill into law on Friday that critics say will make it harder to investigate gun crimes.

The legislation, SB 214, prevents credit card companies from affixing purchases of guns and ammunition with a special code, which can later be used to investigate various gun-related transactions.

The Republican governor framed the decision as a defence of individual privacy and gun rights.

"They can tag you or flag you as being somebody that somehow should be looked at and that’s just fundamentally wrong," he said on Friday.

Critics say the bill will harm public safety and get in the way of police investigations.

“There’s a lot of things that go on in these investigations, and sadly we’re in a crisis across this country,” said state senator Victor Torres, an Orlando Democra, told Orland Weekly.

“Every day, every weekend we hear about shootings in our counties, in our state, across the nation. And this state should be more aware as to the purchasing of guns and ammunition.”

Companies that violate the bill can be fined up to $10,000.

Last year, credit card companies like Visa, Mastercard, and Amex announced plans to change how they track purchases at gun stores, but suspended the changes amid pushback from GOP states…….

Ron DeSantis makes it harder to track gun criminals with credit card rules

Governor signed permitless carry bill last month

www.independent.co.uk

 

[bird]

Florida governor Ron DeSantis signed a bill into law on Friday that critics say will make it harder to investigate gun crimes.

The legislation, SB 214, prevents credit card companies from affixing purchases of guns and ammunition with a special code, which can later be used to investigate various gun-related transactions.

The Republican governor framed the decision as a defence of individual privacy and gun rights.

"They can tag you or flag you as being somebody that somehow should be looked at and that’s just fundamentally wrong," he said on Friday.

Critics say the bill will harm public safety and get in the way of police investigations.

“There’s a lot of things that go on in these investigations, and sadly we’re in a crisis across this country,” said state senator Victor Torres, an Orlando Democra, told Orland Weekly.

“Every day, every weekend we hear about shootings in our counties, in our state, across the nation. And this state should be more aware as to the purchasing of guns and ammunition.”

Companies that violate the bill can be fined up to $10,000.

Last year, credit card companies like Visa, Mastercard, and Amex announced plans to change how they track purchases at gun stores, but suspended the changes amid pushback from GOP states…….

Ron DeSantis makes it harder to track gun criminals with credit card rules

Governor signed permitless carry bill last month

www.independent.co.uk

Hey, DeathSantis? You know what is fundamentally wrong? Kids’ bodies getting destroyed by semi-automatic weapons.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Fareed forking gets it...

 

[Optimus Prime]

Maryland Gov. Wes Moore (D) signed into law Tuesday new gun-control bills to restrict who can carry guns in public and where they can bring them, measures the National Rifle Association immediately challenged in federal court.


Gun rights activists have been eager to leverage a watershed Supreme Court decision in June that expanded the Second Amendment’s reach, as left-leaning states rushed to buttress their long-standing concealed carry permit restrictions that the ruling effectively overturned.

Since the ruling, the number of people now allowed to carry concealed guns in public has more than tripled, according to data from the Maryland State Police.

Approved concealed carry permits skyrocketed from 39,797 on July 1 to 125,233 as of last week, enough new permit holders to fill every seat in Camden Yards stadium nearly twice over.

Maryland lawmakers took action to tamp down concealed carry permits. Gun rights activists noted the ruling had also rattled the legal framework on which several of the state’s other marquee gun laws — a ban on “assault weapons” and handgun licensing requirements — were written, and sued to upend them, as well.

“More permits means more guns out in public, and that means more guns left in cars, and that means more guns subject to theft,” said Sen. William C. Smith Jr. (D-Montgomery), who helped shepherd the new laws to passage. “There’s just going to be more guns … around. That’s just a fact.”


The measures that drew the NRA’s challenge Tuesday write new criteria for who can carry firearms in public and explicitly restricts where most permit holders can bring their weapons, including polling places, preschools, hospitals and stadiums.

Two other Maryland laws enacted Tuesday will require more training for people who apply for concealed carry permits and make those permits more costly, as well as strip gun-ownership rights from people who are convicted of storing firearms where an unsupervised child accessed them, resulting in injury or death………

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/05/16/maryland-gun-laws-nra-sued/

 

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Maryland Gov. Wes Moore (D) signed into law Tuesday new gun-control bills to restrict who can carry guns in public and where they can bring them, measures the National Rifle Association immediately challenged in federal court.


Gun rights activists have been eager to leverage a watershed Supreme Court decision in June that expanded the Second Amendment’s reach, as left-leaning states rushed to buttress their long-standing concealed carry permit restrictions that the ruling effectively overturned.

Since the ruling, the number of people now allowed to carry concealed guns in public has more than tripled, according to data from the Maryland State Police.

Approved concealed carry permits skyrocketed from 39,797 on July 1 to 125,233 as of last week, enough new permit holders to fill every seat in Camden Yards stadium nearly twice over.

Maryland lawmakers took action to tamp down concealed carry permits. Gun rights activists noted the ruling had also rattled the legal framework on which several of the state’s other marquee gun laws — a ban on “assault weapons” and handgun licensing requirements — were written, and sued to upend them, as well.

“More permits means more guns out in public, and that means more guns left in cars, and that means more guns subject to theft,” said Sen. William C. Smith Jr. (D-Montgomery), who helped shepherd the new laws to passage. “There’s just going to be more guns … around. That’s just a fact.”


The measures that drew the NRA’s challenge Tuesday write new criteria for who can carry firearms in public and explicitly restricts where most permit holders can bring their weapons, including polling places, preschools, hospitals and stadiums.

Two other Maryland laws enacted Tuesday will require more training for people who apply for concealed carry permits and make those permits more costly, as well as strip gun-ownership rights from people who are convicted of storing firearms where an unsupervised child accessed them, resulting in injury or death………

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/05/16/maryland-gun-laws-nra-sued/

There is nothing, nada, zip, in these laws that is not common sense.....the NRA and the SC are scourges that need changin.....ridiculous.....

 

[superchuck500]

SCOTUS denied an injunction request from Illinois that would have suspended implementation of the state's new assault weapons and high-capacity magazine bans. This doesn't mean the Court would uphold those laws under a Second Amendment review but it does mean that Court does not think that the 2A issue is so compelling that it requires enjoining the law.

Note that in the past, assault-weapons bans have been upheld.

 

[MT15]

SCOTUS denied an injunction request from Illinois that would have suspended implementation of the state's new assault weapons and high-capacity magazine bans. This doesn't mean the Court would uphold those laws under a Second Amendment review but it does mean that Court does not think that the 2A issue is so compelling that it requires enjoining the law.

Note that in the past, assault-weapons bans have been upheld.

I saw this, and the comment was made that this denial took over a week, and they were speculating that there was some debate between the Justices on whether to take this up.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

SCOTUS denied an injunction request from Illinois that would have suspended implementation of the state's new assault weapons and high-capacity magazine bans. This doesn't mean the Court would uphold those laws under a Second Amendment review but it does mean that Court does not think that the 2A issue is so compelling that it requires enjoining the law.

Note that in the past, assault-weapons bans have been upheld.

The assault weapons ban hasn't met THIS court. Ask Roe...

 

[MT15]

She’s right about this:

 

[Optimus Prime]

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The man stood in a red Make America Great Again baseball cap pointing his AR-15-style semiautomatic rifle toward the sidewalk.

An elementary school student ran home crying. Parents were terrified. Neighbors called the police. While he had not explicitly threatened people in this suburban neighborhood, just the sight of him walking near school bus stops was enough for the nearby elementary school in Anne Arundel County to delay bus drop-off this week.

“The presence of someone with a weapon at or near a bus stop raises fear and anxiety for students and parents, especially in a day and age where we’ve had a number of school shootings across our country,” said Bob Mosier, the spokesman for the school district of more than 83,000 students.

The man, J’Den McAdory, said in an interview with The Washington Post that he is protesting recent state legislation regarding guns by open carrying his weapon around the neighborhood and that he was not singling out school bus stops.

Although it crossed his mind that children — who have grown up practicing active shooter drills and who know that others just like them have been killed by men with big guns — may be scared by the sight of him, he thought he could soothe their fears by simply waving.

“I have remorse because the kids, you know, they were afraid. I have the remorse for that just because they’re still children,” said McAdory, who lives less than two miles from the local elementary school of about 500 students. “But I’m not saying what I’m doing is wrong either.”…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/05/19/bus-stop-ar-15-gun-maryland/

 

[MT15]

This is just fine, everyone should open carry…..

Video shows impatient Florida man pull semi-automatic handgun on ATM user

The victim said he was trying to make a deposit at a drive-thru ATM when an unknown man pulled up behind him in a sedan and started honking his horn.

www.livenowfox.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

DETROIT (AP) — A lawsuit can go forward against a Michigan official who flashed a rifle during a public meeting over video conference, a federal appeals court said Wednesday.

Patricia MacIntosh is suing Ron Clous, alleging he tried to silence her right to free speech when he displayed the rifle during a 2021 meeting of Grand Traverse County commissioners.

Clous has no governmental immunity at this stage of the litigation, the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said in a 2-1 opinion.

“Virtually smirking and displaying a high-powered rifle at someone during a tension-filled public meeting is pregnant with dangerous meaning,” said judges Jane Stranch and Stephanie Dawkins Davis.

The incident occurred during the COVID-19 pandemic when the county board met over video conference. During the public comment period, MacIntosh urged commissioners to make a statement opposing anti-government militia groups, a few weeks after the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.

That's when Clous, a commissioner who was participating from home, left the screen and returned with a rifle...........

Court: No lawsuit immunity for Michigan official who had rifle during online meeting