Now is not the time to talk about gun control (2 Viewers)

[brandon]

T&P

10 killed in Boulder shooting: Victims identified, suspect charged

Police said 10 people were killed, including an officer, after a shooting at a King Soopers grocery store in Boulder, Colorado.

www.google.com

 

[UriUT]

So about those doors Ted Cruz was talking...



now the Secret Service called her. LOL.

 

[bird]

Not to mention trying herd lord knows how many kids out of building if there is a fire or a tornado.

 

[SamAndreas]

So about those doors Ted Cruz was talking...



now the Secret Service called her. LOL.

My best guess is she's trolling Ted Cruz. And that's OK I guess.

But I doubt that she walk through any unlocked doors at that convention hall because my best guess is that she wasn't there.

That photo appears to me to be a sloppy Photoshop fake. In that photo she and the person next to her are obviously seated in some kind of seat, but why are they seated facing sideways from all of the other auditorium seats? Not facing what would be going on in that auditorium.

Why are they apparently blocking what would appear to be an aisle between seating sections that a fire marshal would insist that the convention folks keep clear so that people could come and go from the real seats? An aisle that would need to be kept clear if there was an emergency that required that everyone had to leave the hall in the event of a fire.

I seriously doubt that the secret service has called her either. I'll try to remember her name so if I ever find myself reading something she writes in the future I can ignore her without further bothering myself about her drama act.

 

[MT15]

My best guess is she's trolling Ted Cruz. And that's OK I guess.

But I doubt that she walk through any unlocked doors at that convention hall because my best guess is that she wasn't there.

That photo appears to me to be a sloppy Photoshop fake. In that photo she and the person next to her are obviously seated in some kind of seat, but why are they seated facing sideways from all of the other auditorium seats? Not facing what would be going on in that auditorium.

Why are they apparently blocking what would appear to be an aisle between seating sections that a fire marshal would insist that the convention folks keep clear so that people could come and go from the real seats? An aisle that would need to be kept clear if there was an emergency that required that everyone had to leave the hall in the event of a fire.

I seriously doubt that the secret service has called her either. I'll try to remember her name so if I ever find myself reading something she writes in the future I can ignore her without further bothering myself about her drama act.

I blocked her a while ago - nothing worthwhile in her feed. Good catch, Sam!

 

[SamAndreas]

I blocked her a while ago - nothing worthwhile in her feed. Good catch, Sam!

I thought it was interesting that when I was looking at her Twitter feed off to the side it said under "You might like," a Twitter account was listed named "The Good Liars@TheGoodLiars."

I suppose that could have been a coincidence.

 

[Semper]

They claim he claims to have cut himself on the face. See any scars?

How about the guns, see the guns?"

That’s quite a lot of money there. How does a kid his age get that kind of money?

 

[SamAndreas]

That’s quite a lot of money there. How does a kid his age get that kind of money?

We hear about his mother and grandmother, but we don't hear about his father or grandfather. He probably got an inheritance from one of both of the men in that family, and he likely got that money from a trust that had been holding it for him the moment he turned 18.

Did you see that pickup that he took from his grandmother after he shot her. It was a fairly new crew cab pickup that I would think cost 40 to 50 thousand dollars. His grandmother at least wasn't poor. His mother might not be poor either.

 

[brandon]

My best guess is she's trolling Ted Cruz. And that's OK I guess.

But I doubt that she walk through any unlocked doors at that convention hall because my best guess is that she wasn't there.

That photo appears to me to be a sloppy Photoshop fake. In that photo she and the person next to her are obviously seated in some kind of seat, but why are they seated facing sideways from all of the other auditorium seats? Not facing what would be going on in that auditorium.

Why are they apparently blocking what would appear to be an aisle between seating sections that a fire marshal would insist that the convention folks keep clear so that people could come and go from the real seats? An aisle that would need to be kept clear if there was an emergency that required that everyone had to leave the hall in the event of a fire.

I seriously doubt that the secret service has called her either. I'll try to remember her name so if I ever find myself reading something she writes in the future I can ignore her without further bothering myself about her drama act.

If that’s a photoshop, it’s a damn good one. If you zoom in as far as you can on individual strands of hair, each strand is perfectly outlined with the background. That’s difficult to do. Also, the lighting hitting the top of her head and the side of her face are consistent with LEDs that put out colored light like the ones you see in the background rather than white light that you would see from, say, a bedroom or something.

She even has two blue dots on her neck from colored lighting in front of her if you zoom in a lot. There’s no reason to fake that for a photoshop.

As someone who has amateurly used photoshop for almost 20 years, I would argue that’s almost assuredly NOT a photoshop.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

We hear about his mother and grandmother, but we don't hear about his father or grandfather. He probably got an inheritance from one of both of the men in that family, and he likely got that money from a trust that had been holding it for him the moment he turned 18.

Did you see that pickup that he took from his grandmother after he shot her. It was a fairly new crew cab pickup that I would think cost 40 to 50 thousand dollars. His grandmother at least wasn't poor. His mother might not be poor either.

Of course I have no idea where he got the money, he did work though and may have been living rent free. As for his grandmother's pick-up, I heard it was 6 years old. I have no idea when she bought it. But, yes, there are cheaper ARs out there.

 

[el caliente]

Mitt Romney received $0 from the NRA during his 2018 senate campaign, not millions

A review of Federal Election Commission filings shows that Utah Sen. Mitt Romney received zero dollars from the National Rifle Association during his 2018 senate campaign. The NRA did spend millions of dollars during the 2012 presidential race when Romney was trying to stop then-President Barack...

www.sltrib.com

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

They claim he claims to have cut himself on the face. See any scars?

How about the guns, see the guns?"

Apparently, according to schoolmates, he did cut himself on purpose on the face.

 

[el caliente]

saw this article, but like with all the other shootings, I'm doubtful anything will ever happen to help prevent future ones

Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians Pay Attention?

Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and treat them before they commit violence.

www.politico.com

I learned about this group the other day while listening to Tommy Tucker (don’t ask, I thought I was listening to NPR).

I thought the most interesting part was how the effect of finding similar minded individuals online led to these actions. It’s not hard to imagine how this plays out. Enough of us on SR.com think the Saints will have a great year, and as a result a poster or two will lay down a grand on the Saints winning the Super Bowl. Never mind the folks laying down the bet don’t know the other posters from Adam, or if those posters have the other’s best interest at heart

The same thing happens with these mass shooters. They frequent a site where unknown posters talk about killing a bunch of people as the best fix to a problem, and suddenly one of the users thinks it a good idea to test that theory.

If only there was more that could be done to police sites to monitor those types of conversations.

 

[MT15]

Mitt Romney received $0 from the NRA during his 2018 senate campaign, not millions

A review of Federal Election Commission filings shows that Utah Sen. Mitt Romney received zero dollars from the National Rifle Association during his 2018 senate campaign. The NRA did spend millions of dollars during the 2012 presidential race when Romney was trying to stop then-President Barack...

www.sltrib.com

Those figures are for their careers, not any one campaign. All you had to do was ask, or look it up.

 

[el caliente]

Those figures are for their careers, not any one campaign. All you had to do was ask, or look it up.

I’m not trying to kill the vibe, I simply posted the article for additional color on the $13M stat. Yes, he has taken over $13M from the NRA, however the last time he received a donation from the NRA was a decade ago during his Presidential run.

But whatevs, do with that information as you will (or won’t).

 

[SamAndreas]

If that’s a photoshop, it’s a damn good one. If you zoom in as far as you can on individual strands of hair, each strand is perfectly outlined with the background. That’s difficult to do. Also, the lighting hitting the top of her head and the side of her face are consistent with LEDs that put out colored light like the ones you see in the background rather than white light that you would see from, say, a bedroom or something.

She even has two blue dots on her neck from colored lighting in front of her if you zoom in a lot. There’s no reason to fake that for a photoshop.

As someone who has amateurly used photoshop for almost 20 years, I would argue that’s almost assuredly NOT a photoshop.

You did say you "amateurly used photoshop." It sounds like you've attempted to manually crop your subject out of a background in order to place it in front of a different background, and I agree there would be most difficult to keep the stray individual hairs of the subject in doing it that amateurishly way. But there is a quick simple easy way to do it in Photoshop using the Color Range tool.

What you need is a photo that was either taken with the intent to Photoshop in front of neutral screen, or one that by coincidence happens to have the subject in front of a fairly uniform background. It doesn't have to be a green screen. And by lucky happenstance lots of photos will happen to have a uniform enough background to use the Color Range tool in Photoshop.

One opens that layer in Photoshop and selects 'Color Range." Then one uses the picker to select from some spot from the uniform background. That will select most of the background, then press the shift key and continue to use the picker on the background spots that didn't completely turn white during the first use of this color range tool. Once you've added some of the troubling spots using the shift key and the picker together that will do a nice job of removing a subject from their background with all individual stray hairs intact.

The lighting details you've mentioned are observations that with the lighting set up in that NRA hall would not be that meaningful because in that hall the lighting was coming from so many sources of light on the ceiling of that hall that it would cover for almost any lighting details that happen to carry over from the cropped subject photo assuming that both photos used had some blue colored lighting aspects in them.

 

[Bolo]

Americans aren't smart enough to fix this problem. Voters elect the same people over and over again and expect a different result in how government functions. These school shootings have been ongoing for 23 years and each time politicians on all sides call to action on every major media outlet in the hours that follow and nothing has been done. Until there is a paradigm shift in how people conduct their voting, you're just peeing into the wind. If I could walk away from left vs right politics knowing its a foolish errand, so can other people. Politicians should fear the voter, instead, they brazenly ignore the voter once they get into the great game that is Washington politics, fully knowing they'll never be held accountable.

23 years have passed since Columbine and we're no closer to universal healthcare or even scratching this surface for a viable solution. Americans are just gonna keep doing the same thing and expect a different result, that is the definition of insanity at this point.

Perhaps I should start telling kids the reason they could be next is because the American voter is too stupid to realize their failures to hold politicians feet to the fire is getting people killed now. If you're so caught up in the left vs right struggle, at this point, whilst mass shootings continue to accelerate, you're not better than a cultist at this point.

 

[SystemShock]

My best guess is she's trolling Ted Cruz. And that's OK I guess.

But I doubt that she walk through any unlocked doors at that convention hall because my best guess is that she wasn't there.

That photo appears to me to be a sloppy Photoshop fake. In that photo she and the person next to her are obviously seated in some kind of seat, but why are they seated facing sideways from all of the other auditorium seats? Not facing what would be going on in that auditorium.

Or maybe just standing on the aisle?

Why are they apparently blocking what would appear to be an aisle between seating sections that a fire marshal would insist that the convention folks keep clear so that people could come and go from the real seats? An aisle that would need to be kept clear if there was an emergency that required that everyone had to leave the hall in the event of a fire.

Yeah, the 3 seconds it takes to take a selfie... yugeh fire hazard.

 

[brandon]

You did say you "amateurly used photoshop." It sounds like you've attempted to manually crop your subject out of a background in order to place it in front of a different background, and I agree there would be most difficult to keep the stray individual hairs of the subject in doing it that amateurishly way. But there is a quick simple easy way to do it in Photoshop using the Color Range tool.

What you need is a photo that was either taken with the intent to Photoshop in front of neutral screen, or one that by coincidence happens to have the subject in front of a fairly uniform background. It doesn't have to be a green screen. And by lucky happenstance lots of photos will happen to have a uniform enough background to use the Color Range tool in Photoshop.

One opens that layer in Photoshop and selects 'Color Range." Then one uses the picker to select from some spot from the uniform background. That will select most of the background, then press the shift key and continue to use the picker on the background spots that didn't completely turn white during the first use of this color range tool. Once you've added some of the troubling spots using the shift key and the picker together that will do a nice job of removing a subject from their background with all individual stray hairs intact.

The lighting details you've mentioned are observations that with the lighting set up in that NRA hall would not be that meaningful because in that hall the lighting was coming from so many sources of light on the ceiling of that hall that it would cover for almost any lighting details that happen to carry over from the cropped subject photo assuming that both photos used had some blue colored lighting aspects in them.

I didn’t say it was impossible to do a great photoshop job so that the hair isn’t a hack job. I can do it pretty well, and don’t need a green screen. And I wouldn’t use the color range tool to do it, either.

I’m pushing back on your notion that it’s a bad photoshop job. If it is a photoshop (and you haven’t really given any evidence that it is), it’s a good one.

Do you have any specific evidence you can point to indicating that it is, in fact, a photoshop? Surely if it’s as bad as you say it is, you can point out reasons why.