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[Huntn]

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.

www.yahoo.com

WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?

 

[TampaJoe]

Of course. I'm focusing on the reality of who the 2 candidates were.

You're saying they were 2 sides of the same coin right?

We're not in fantasy land. The real world is made up of flawed people. They aren't all equally flawed. And it looked crystal clear who the more deeply flawed candidate was here. But since you apparently think there's no difference between the two, so here we are.

We all have a choice to make. Taking a pass is a choice I suppose. A cop out, but still a choice.

I did not say they were two sides of the sam coin. I said that neither one should sit in the oval. There is a difference. My plumber and my accountant arent qualifid tofly airplanes. That doesnt make them two sidesnofthe same coin. Just means they arent fit for that job.

The choice I mde was not to continue to blindly go along with whatever or whomever the party decided in their infinite wisdom to put out there. That hasnt worked. Obviously hasnt worked. So yeah. Its a choice and one I will stand behind.

 

[efil4]

I did not say they were two sides of the sam coin. I said that neither one should sit in the oval. There is a difference. My plumber and my accountant arent qualifid tofly airplanes. That doesnt make them two sidesnofthe same coin. Just means they arent fit for that job.

The choice I mde was not to continue to blindly go along with whatever or whomever the party decided in their infinite wisdom to put out there. That hasnt worked. Obviously hasnt worked. So yeah. Its a choice and one I will stand behind.

Lol hasn't worked

What has worked, up until this point, is you had relative security knowing your leaders weren't bat sheet crazy, destroying your wealth/retirement funds, causing your costs to rise (and now set to rise even more) and the eventual recession toward end of year.

I'll give you credit for standing behind your decision to upend your ability to plan for future. He'll of a choice you made. Hope you can explain to your kids and grandkids your "choice" as they stare down the abyss of wealth destruction. Maybe you can toss em a couple hundred a month to help bridge the gap they will endure.

Best of luck with all that.

 

[TampaJoe]

The Democrats did by getting rid of a guy that was showing signs of being incapable of doing the job. Can you say the same about Republicans? No, because they didn't do it when they had the opportunity. And every single person who voted for GOP candidates at the federal level, whether they voted for Trump or not, owns the responsibility for not demanding that their party give the country a better candidate. That's the part you can't try to talk past- for all of your claims about Biden being unfit, he was forking replaced and an obviously senile Trump wasn't. And you voted to enable it.

Except you didnt give the country a better candidate. Biden picked his successor and everyone just followed along.

The GOP made bad choices. I dont belong to the GOP. Im a conservative so I vote like a conservative. I am not going to vote for an ideology I do not support. I wouldnt expect you do that just because you may hapen to disagree with the Democrat leadership or on some of their policies. That is an unrealist expectation on your part.

If I dont like the conservative candidate Iwould consider a moderate altenative. The problem is that modrates in both parties get primaried and fewer and fewer of them are left. Compromise with the other side isnt much allowed anymore.

 

[DaveXA]

Except you didnt give the country a better candidate. Biden picked his successor and everyone just followed along.

The GOP made bad choices. I dont belong to the GOP. Im a conservative so I vote like a conservative. I am not going to vote for an ideology I do not support. I wouldnt expect you do that just because you may hapen to disagree with the Democrat leadership or on some of their policies. That is an unrealist expectation on your part.

If I dont like the conservative candidate Iwould consider a moderate altenative. The problem is that modrates in both parties get primaried and fewer and fewer of them are left. Compromise with the other side isnt much allowed anymore.

I'm a fiscal conservative, but the Republicans have so far lost the plot that I can't in good conscience vote for anything related to them until they ditch Trump. I'll vote Democrat as a form of protest until the Party ditches Trump and their fascist bent.

 

[TampaJoe]

Lol hasn't worked

What has worked, up until this point, is you had relative security knowing your leaders weren't bat sheet crazy, destroying your wealth/retirement funds, causing your costs to rise (and now set to rise even more) and the eventual recession toward end of year.

I'll give you credit for standing behind your decision to upend your ability to plan for future. He'll of a choice you made. Hope you can explain to your kids and grandkids your "choice" as they stare down the abyss of wealth destruction. Maybe you can toss em a couple hundred a month to help bridge the gap they will endure.

Best of luck with all that.

My leaders and your leaders have presided over a 36 trillion dollar debt. Thats what we leave to future generations. Explain that to your kids and grandkids. The numbers dont work. So something has to change. Kicking the can down the road could not continue on forever.

 

[TampaJoe]

I'm a fiscal conservative, but the Republicans have so far lost the plot that I can't in good conscience vote for anything related to them until they ditch Trump. I'll vote Democrat as a form of protest until the Party ditches Trump and their fascist bent.

I respect that choice.

 

[IndependentSoul]

I respect that choice.

I’m with you until the main party has common sense

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Except you didnt give the country a better candidate. Biden picked his successor and everyone just followed along.

The GOP made bad choices. I dont belong to the GOP. Im a conservative so I vote like a conservative. I am not going to vote for an ideology I do not support. I wouldnt expect you do that just because you may hapen to disagree with the Democrat leadership or on some of their policies. That is an unrealist expectation on your part.

If I dont like the conservative candidate Iwould consider a moderate altenative. The problem is that modrates in both parties get primaried and fewer and fewer of them are left. Compromise with the other side isnt much allowed anymore.

Kamala is infinitely more qualified to be president by every objective measure. It's not my fault you refuse to comport with reality. That's what every single one of your posts comes back to. You do not see reality, you see some twisted JoeWorld that only makes sense if you ignore the things that are actually happening.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Republican appears to refer to Trump as ‘President C***’ at NRCC dinner

Tom Emmer made the vulgar flub in front of a roomful of GOP donors at the RNCC annual dinner

www.independent.co.uk

 

[TampaJoe]

Kamala is infinitely more qualified to be president by every objective measure. It's not my fault you refuse to comport with reality. That's what every single one of your posts comes back to. You do not see reality, you see some twisted JoeWorld that only makes sense if you ignore the things that are actually happening.

And you see the world in “cuddleworld”. Whether Kamala was more qualified than Trump isnt the point for me. She wasnt the right person for that job. Obviously millions of voters didnt agree with you. Whether you think thats realistic is irrelevant. What the majority of voters think is highly relevant. Ignoring that makes no sense.

 

[DaveXA]

And you see the world in “cuddleworld”. Whether Kamala was more qualified than Trump isnt the point for me. She wasnt the right person for that job. Obviously millions of voters didnt agree with you. Whether you think thats realistic is irrelevant. What the majority of voters think is highly relevant. Ignoring that makes no sense.

Millions of voters can of course get it wrong, as has been done more than a few times in history. It's a voter problem more than a leader problem.

 

[Dragon]

And you see the world in “cuddleworld”. Whether Kamala was more qualified than Trump isnt the point for me. She wasnt the right person for that job. Obviously millions of voters didnt agree with you. Whether you think thats realistic is irrelevant. What the majority of voters think is highly relevant. Ignoring that makes no sense.

Millions of voters did not like her due to her gender and skincolor. It has NOTHING to do with qualifications at all, unless you think that either of those two things are "qualifications"

 

[Optimus Prime]

And you see the world in “cuddleworld”. Whether Kamala was more qualified than Trump isnt the point for me. She wasnt the right person for that job. Obviously millions of voters didnt agree with you. Whether you think thats realistic is irrelevant. What the majority of voters think is highly relevant. Ignoring that makes no sense.

That is obvious

 

[efil4]

Whether Kamala was more qualified than Trump isnt the point for me. She wasnt the right person for that job.

Qualifications WASNT the point for you???? You spent last 2 days saying thats EXACTLY why you didnt vote. Now you say that wasnt the point for you?


Now we get to the honest reply. And anyone paying attention now knows why. Wasnt the right "person" ...lol

 

[faceman]

I'm a fiscal conservative, but the Republicans have so far lost the plot that I can't in good conscience vote for anything related to them until they ditch Trump. I'll vote Democrat as a form of protest until the Party ditches Trump and their fascist bent.

I'm the same. I voted R every year from 1980- 2012. I knew what kind of person Trump was since the early 80's. I
could not vote for him.

ESPN did a 30 for 30 titled the USFL and Trump. He bankrupted the league. He demanded other owners to help
pay Doug Fluties salary. He moved the spring schedule to the fall to compete directly with the NFL. He told
Pete Rozelle he'd bankrupt the league if he were allowed an NFL franchise. Rozelle told him you'll never get
an NFL franchise. This man cannot run a football team or a casino. How can he run the country?

watch this if you get a chance.

Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL? - Stream the Film on Watch ESPN - ESPN

Stream the film Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL? on Watch ESPN. Fresh interviews and archival footage track the life and demise of the United States Football League in the mid-1980s.

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[cuddlemonkey]

And you see the world in “cuddleworld”. Whether Kamala was more qualified than Trump isnt the point for me. She wasnt the right person for that job. Obviously millions of voters didnt agree with you. Whether you think thats realistic is irrelevant. What the majority of voters think is highly relevant. Ignoring that makes no sense.

A large number of people can make a bad decision. If Kamala's qualifications are not the point, what is? Shouldn't a candidate's qualifications be one of the most important factors in whether or not they should be president?

 

[bird]

DaveXA and faceman,

I understand the concept of fiscal responsibility. That being said the last “fiscally responsible” Republican administrations were Ford and Nixon. May I suggest looking into the two Santa Claus theory. Fiscally responsible to me is not cutting revenue. There can be discussions about programs which must, imo, include whether not the private sector will perform programs that are cut.

The Republican Party has not been fiscally responsible for the last 45 years.

 

[faceman]

DaveXA and faceman,

I understand the concept of fiscal responsibility. That being said the last “fiscally responsible” Republican administrations were Ford and Nixon. May I suggest looking into the two Santa Claus theory. Fiscally responsible to me is not cutting revenue. There can be discussions about programs which must, imo, include whether not the private sector will perform programs that are cut.

The Republican Party has not been fiscally responsible for the last 45 years.

Yes agreed. I know hindsight is 20/20 and voting for Reagan and the 2 Bushes was a mistake. I preferred Kemp over
Dole in 96. I thought McCain and Romney would be fair Presidents.