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    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

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    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.
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    WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

    I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

    This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?
     
    faceman said:
    Yes agreed. I know hindsight is 20/20 and voting for Reagan and the 2 Bushes was a mistake. I preferred Kemp over
    Dole in 96. I thought McCain and Romney would be fair Presidents.
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    Yeah, I get it. I think there is an essential issue that has been at play on a high level of intensity for several decades. That issue is government being the “problem”. Government is not and never has been the problem. Government is a tool for organization of society. It is unfortunate that this view has been pushed by too many on the right because the underpinning of that position is every bit as utopian as many on the extreme left. Utopianism is just falling for a charlatan with prettier clothing.
     
    bird said:
    Yeah, I get it. I think there is an essential issue that has been at play on a high level of intensity for several decades. That issue is government being the “problem”. Government is not and never has been the problem. Government is a tool for organization of society. It is unfortunate that this view has been pushed by too many on the right because the underpinning of that position is every bit as utopian as many on the extreme left. Utopianism is just falling for a charlatan with prettier clothing.
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    And this is the culmination of what the GOP has been preaching since at least Reagan

    "Scariest sentence in the English language, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help'"
     
    bird said:
    DaveXA and faceman,

    I understand the concept of fiscal responsibility. That being said the last “fiscally responsible” Republican administrations were Ford and Nixon. May I suggest looking into the two Santa Claus theory. Fiscally responsible to me is not cutting revenue. There can be discussions about programs which must, imo, include whether not the private sector will perform programs that are cut.

    The Republican Party has not been fiscally responsible for the last 45 years.
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    I think it's both sides of the ledger. You have to have revenues sufficient to cover the outlays of the federal government. At the same time, you need to be good stewards of the resources needed to run the government. And it has to be sustainable over a long period of time.

    There are definitely aspects that can be worked to make it more sustainable, but this irresponsible slash and burn approach is not being good stewards of the available resources, and this attempt to shift taxation to tariffs is simply an isolationist wet dream.
     
    Dragon said:
    Millions of voters did not like her due to her gender and skincolor. It has NOTHING to do with qualifications at all, unless you think that either of those two things are "qualifications"
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    Thats an opinion. One I do not share. But you are welcome to it.
     
    efil4 said:
    Qualifications WASNT the point for you???? You spent last 2 days saying thats EXACTLY why you didnt vote. Now you say that wasnt the point for you?


    Now we get to the honest reply. And anyone paying attention now knows why. Wasnt the right "person" ...lol
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    Her being more qualified than Trump wasnt the issue. In my mind she wasnt qualified for the job. Those are two different things.
     
    cuddlemonkey said:
    A large number of people can make a bad decision. If Kamala's qualifications are not the point, what is? Shouldn't a candidate's qualifications be one of the most important factors in whether or not they should be president?
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    Yes qualifications for the job is important. Being more qualified than another unqualified candidate isnt relevant in my view.
     
    DaveXA said:
    I think it's both sides of the ledger. You have to have revenues sufficient to cover the outlays of the federal government. At the same time, you need to be good stewards of the resources needed to run the government. And it has to be sustainable over a long period of time.

    There are definitely aspects that can be worked to make it more sustainable, but this irresponsible slash and burn approach is not being good stewards of the available resources, and this attempt to shift taxation to tariffs is simply an isolationist wet dream.
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    I agree re: stewardship. That being said it has always intrigued me that we hear government should be run like a business. If businesses cut revenue the way tax cuts are thrown around business would be out of business.

    Re: tariffs I googled (yeah, always dangerous😉😁) the sources of federal revenue at the height of the gilded age. 30% iirc was from tariffs, 60% was from excise taxes.

    Beyond that, the slash and burn may result in something extremely damaging which is the end of the dollar as reserve currency.
     
    Dragon said:
    So you believe gender and race is a qualification?
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    He absolutely does. Just says it semantically to have deniability

    We know who he is behind the semantics.

    Not that hard to ferret out - they all usually let slip their true selves at some point. Just gotta be patient.
     
    bird said:
    I agree re: stewardship. That being said it has always intrigued me that we hear government should be run like a business. If businesses cut revenue the way tax cuts are thrown around business would be out of business.
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    Yeah, government and private businesses are completely different and absolutely should not be run the same. No question there.
    bird said:
    Re: tariffs I googled (yeah, always dangerous😉😁) the sources of federal revenue at the height of the gilded age. 30% iirc was from tariffs, 60% was from excise taxes.

    Beyond that, the slash and burn may result in something extremely damaging which is the end of the dollar as reserve currency.
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    Agreed.
     
    Dragon said:
    Millions of voters did not like her due to her gender and skincolor. It has NOTHING to do with qualifications at all, unless you think that either of those two things are "qualifications"
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    And millions of voters voted for her due to her gender and skin color. I voted for her for no other reason than I didn’t want trump.
     

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