Miscellaneous Trump (5 Viewers)

[Huntn]

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.

www.yahoo.com

WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?

 

[Huntn]

Yeah right. Had it not been fo the debate, he would have been the candidate and you would have voted for and defended him. So dont try and sell me that line of bull. I dont buy it for a second.

It’s called pragmatism, you have to choose between the best of two candidates. Biden was clearly better than Trump by miles, and Harris was magnificently better, an actual, caring, empathetic human being in charge, not the power grabbing, havoc chaos shirt storm we’re witnessing today.

I don’t know how you feel about Trump today, but if you’d actually still choose him, knowing what you know, I’d question your’s or anyone’s sanity, and your loyalty to this Nation. The key here is at nation = everyone, not just one particular favored group, and definitely not white Christian nationalists of which I’m not accusing you of being one of them.

Thats not the point. Neither man was for the office and yet thats what the political parties gave us for candidates. We werent choosing between the two best candidates. We were choosing the lesser of two evils. When that is the choice, the outcome is unpredictable.

Your equivalence argument is flawed. I agree that both parties originally put up, in one case not the best (Biden) and in the other case a spastically crazed, nation destroying monster (Trump). Yet, the Democrats course corrected and moved to a stellar candidate. I can assume you chose the rage stomping, self destructive, power grabbing anarchist?

Regardless, this country is going down due to our Capitalist ways, profits over people, with automation and AI, we’re disenfranising our work force left and right, Social Security will fail. There will be serious social unrest, maybe even a civil war. We’re going to be stressed out and ideally, we’d elect a humanitarian looking for the best solution for the whole, not a fascist, authoritarian, mentally ill Peice of work who wants to establish his empire, totally focused on forking over his enemies of which there is an enormous count.

 

[DaveXA]

It’s called pragmatism, you have to choose between the best of two candidates. Biden was clearly better than Trump by miles, and Harris was magnificently better, an actual, caring, empathetic human being in charge, not the power grabbing, havoc chaos shirt storm we’re witnessing today.

I don’t know how you feel about Trump today, but if you’d actually still choose him, knowing what you know, I’d question your’s or anyone’s sanity, and your loyalty to this Nation. The key here is at nation = everyone, not just one particular favored group, and definitely not white Christian nationalists of which I’m not accusing you of being one of them.


Your equivalence argument is flawed. I agree that both parties originally put up, in one case not the best (Biden) and in the other case a spastically crazed, nation destroying monster (Trump). Yet, the Democrats course corrected and moved to a stellar candidate. I can assume you chose the rage stomping, self destructive, power grabbing anarchist?

Regardless, this country is going down due to our Capitalist ways, profits over people, with automation and AI, we’re disenfranising our work force left and right, Social Security will fail. There will be serious social unrest, maybe even a civil war. We’re going to be stressed out and ideally, we’d elect a humanitarian looking for the best solution for the whole, not a fascist, authoritarian, mentally ill Peice of work who wants to establish his empire, totally focused on forking over his enemies of which there is an enormous count.

Since he puts words in everyone's mouth, I'll put words in his. He don't care about anyone's opinions other than his own. Don't expect him to use logic here. He's really not debating in good faith. Might as well argue with a rock.

 

[Huntn]

If any other politician,regardless of party had done or said those things their career would be over.

This is no longer pre-2010 when personal integrity, standards, general truthfulness, and morality meant something. Now a large percentage of the population (70m last count) will go for a business failure, a lying, cheating, wanna be mob boss if he spouts enough hateful racist and xenophobic ideas, to hide the truth that capitalism is the culprit and the enemy, ironically of which he epitomizes. He’s just fragrantly corrupt and arguably mentally ill.

Most average citizens will be disenfranchised in the quest for profits. That’s how it is with capitalists in charge. People, it’s time to wake up, it’s gonna be a rocky ride.

 

[RobF]

Since he puts words in everyone's mouth, I'll put words in his. He don't care about anyone's opinions other than his own. Don't expect him to use logic here. He's really not debating in good faith. Might as well argue with a rock.

He's got nothing. Every thread Joe posts in becomes about Joe while he's posting in it, because that's all there is in his posts. No sources, no real reasoning, nothing that he can ever substantiate. Just vague assertions, built on nothing, ultimately backed by little more than playground, "No, you," retorts.

And as the thread is "Miscellaneous Trump", not "Joe refuses to substantiate anything he says or address any criticism or questions at all," I'd recommend focusing on that.

 

[fooferdoggie]

A global trade-war rollercoaster was not enough to distract Donald Trump from fulfilling one of his longtime priorities on Wednesday: changing the federal definition of “shower head”, a move the White House said would “end the Obama-Biden war on water pressure”.

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takes a lot of pressure to scrub off the orange, for sure.

 

[Huntn]

Mr Trump is a mentally ill fruit cake going for the brass ring of power, relying on STUPID and co-conspirators to get him there. Do we have it within us to stop him? Eventually, he will fail or croak and there’s no telling how much damage will be left in that horrible wake of putridness.

 

[Huntn]

And you see the world in “cuddleworld”. Whether Kamala was more qualified than Trump isnt the point for me. She wasnt the right person for that job. Obviously millions of voters didnt agree with you. Whether you think thats realistic is irrelevant. What the majority of voters think is highly relevant. Ignoring that makes no sense.

Unfortunately, we have to take STUPID, self-serving, racist and xenophobic into account. Harris was so right for the job, it’s completely apparent to anyone not drinking Trump Kool-Aid. And if you look at the margins, there’s a very strong argument here that our ‘winner take all system’ sucks because it’s going to sink the ship. Hey, the survivors will have a merry time lashing their rafts together, bracing for the coming storms.

 

[Huntn]

My leaders and your leaders have presided over a 36 trillion dollar debt. Thats what we leave to future generations. Explain that to your kids and grandkids. The numbers dont work. So something has to change. Kicking the can down the road could not continue on forever.

Yes, and Trump was SO NOT the answer. He’s just accelerating our demise. Now if anyone has a Nation death wish, he was great choice.

 

[Huntn]

And millions of voters voted for her due to her gender and skin color. I voted for her for no other reason than I didn’t want trump.

No responsible person with good judgement could’ve voted for Trump.

 

[TampaJoe]

It’s called pragmatism, you have to choose between the best of two candidates. Biden was clearly better than Trump by miles, and Harris was magnificently better, an actual, caring, empathetic human being in charge, not the power grabbing, havoc chaos shirt storm we’re witnessing today.

I don’t know how you feel about Trump today, but if you’d actually still choose him, knowing what you know, I’d question your’s or anyone’s sanity, and your loyalty to this Nation. The key here is at nation = everyone, not just one particular favored group, and definitely not white Christian nationalists of which I’m not accusing you of being one of them.


Your equivalence argument is flawed. I agree that both parties originally put up, in one case not the best (Biden) and in the other case a spastically crazed, nation destroying monster (Trump). Yet, the Democrats course corrected and moved to a stellar candidate. I can assume you chose the rage stomping, self destructive, power grabbing anarchist?

Regardless, this country is going down due to our Capitalist ways, profits over people, with automation and AI, we’re disenfranising our work force left and right, Social Security will fail. There will be serious social unrest, maybe even a civil war. We’re going to be stressed out and ideally, we’d elect a humanitarian looking for the best solution for the whole, not a fascist, authoritarian, mentally ill Peice of work who wants to establish his empire, totally focused on forking over his enemies of which there is an enormous count.

I never voted for Trump. He was never my choice. That does not mean that I am going to vote for the other candidate by default. I do not vote against someone. I also wont vote for a candidate I dont believe is qualified or who has a plitical ideology I cannot support.

I dont vote for the lesser of two evils. To me that is a wasted vote. Thats a personal choice.

 

[DaveXA]

I never voted for Trump. He was never my choice. That does not mean that I am going to vote for the other candidate by default. I do not vote against someone. I also wont vote for a candidate I dont believe is qualified or who has a plitical ideology I cannot support.

I dont vote for the lesser of two evils. To me that is a wasted vote. Thats a personal choice.

You can think what you want, but a non-vote is essentially saying the candidates are the same. It also essentially is a vote for the winning candidate. You can yell that you didn't vote for Trump until you're blue in the face, but your non-vote helped Trump win. That's really what matters.

 

[TampaJoe]

Yes, and Trump was SO NOT the answer. He’s just accelerating our demise. Now if anyone has a Nation death wish, he was great choice.

I disagree with his methods and I totally disagree with his management style. I do agree with him and many others that the debt and deficit are unsustainable. Neither party has done anything to address that problem. Further SSI and Medicare are headed towrds insolvancy and neither party is willing to address those issues. They will follow the standard of waiting until theproblem becomes a crisis.

I havent seen a candidate with the answers. I havent seen a party with the answers. They are focused on telling their base whatever it is they want to hear.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I never voted for Trump. He was never my choice. That does not mean that I am going to vote for the other candidate by default. I do not vote against someone. I also wont vote for a candidate I dont believe is qualified or who has a plitical ideology I cannot support.

I dont vote for the lesser of two evils. To me that is a wasted vote. Thats a personal choice.

 

[TampaJoe]

You can think what you want, but a non-vote is essentially saying the candidates are the same. It also essentially is a vote for the winning candidate. You can yell that you didn't vote for Trump until you're blue in the face, but your non-vote helped Trump win. That's really what matters.

You are welcome to think and vote as you please. It matters not to me. Spend your vote as you will. I will do the same. That is democracy.

Running for office is about persuading people to vote for you or your candidate. Telling me you are not the other guy is not a qualification in my book. I would never hire someone for an important position based on such a argument. But that is me. You are welcome to do as you wish.

 

[RobF]

Can I suggest that no-one needs to reply to Joe to point out that saying a candidate, who won't do terrible things, is vastly better than another candidate who will do terrible things, does not mean that the only reason to vote for that candidate is that they're not the other candidate, not only because anyone with basic reasoning skills knows that, but also because this is a politics forum where the candidates' merits (and distinct lack thereof) were discussed, in detail, for months on end, both before, during, and after the election.

And we all know the moral obligation to oppose an unqualified, bigoted, fascist, felon, demagogue cannot be dismissed by falsely declaring the alternative experienced, competent, qualified, candidate to be "not qualified".

He knows. He's been told repeatedly. He doesn't care. At this point he's just trolling, either intentionally or because that's just who he is.

I recommend not feeding the troll.

Obviously I'll be ignoring any empty responses myself...

 

[TampaJoe]

Can I suggest that no-one needs to reply to Joe to point out that saying a candidate is vastly better than another candidate doesn't mean that the only reason to vote for that candidate is that they're not the other candidate, not only because anyone with basic reasoning skills knows that, but also because this is a politics forum where the candidates' merits (and distinct lack thereof) were discussed, in detail, for months on end, both before, during, and after the election.

He knows. He's been told repeatedly. He doesn't care. At this point he's just trolling, either intentionally or because that's just who he is.

Don't feed the troll.

Thats fine with me Rob. But I will point out to you that the majority of voters didnt agree with your assessment that your candidate was vastly better. All you need to do is look at the results. They simply didnt agree with you. So maybe, just maybe, it had something to do with your candidate, or maybe just maybe, they didnt agree with her on a number of policies. Maybe the campaign was lacking in some way.

You blame the voter for not buying what you were selling. Somehow it is all their fault.

 

[Eeyore]

This an elaborate way to explain why you smell bad.

Trump escalates feud with low water pressure by signing executive order targeting 'weak and worthless' shower heads

President Trump signed an executive order reversing an Obama and Biden-era rule on water pressure that he has long criticized.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[fooferdoggie]

This an elaborate way to explain why you smell bad.

Trump escalates feud with low water pressure by signing executive order targeting 'weak and worthless' shower heads

President Trump signed an executive order reversing an Obama and Biden-era rule on water pressure that he has long criticized.

www.businessinsider.com

trump would need a pressure washer to get that orange off.