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[Huntn]

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.

www.yahoo.com

WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?

 

[bird]

Party affiliation has been fairly stable for the last 14 years.

Party Affiliation

In politics, as of today, do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat, or an Independent? (Asked of independents: As of today, do you lean more to the Democratic Party or the Republican Party?)

news.gallup.com

 

[TampaJoe]

Does that apply to any quote made at any time?

If so, the quotes from FDR, Lincoln, Jefferson, Adams and Washington are meaningless because “many things have changed in “X” years…”.

No. Depends on the issue. Depends on the quote. Those gentlemen said many things. Not everything they uttered is relevant today. Some things are and some things are not.

 

[bird]

No. Depends on the issue. Depends on the quote. Those gentlemen said many things. Not everything they uttered is relevant today. Some things are and some things are not.

I expected nothing else.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

What are founding fathers put in place is relevant.
One nation, under God is still relevant.
and........
Lincoln's Gettysburg address should still be studied in our H.S classrooms.

 

[Optimus Prime]

No. Depends on the issue if I agree with it or not. Depends on the quote. Those gentlemen said many things. Not everything they uttered is relevant today. Some things are and some things are not.

fixed

 

[TampaJoe]

I expected nothing else.

Well it’s great when things work out that way.

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[t_rav_82]

What are founding fathers put in place is relevant.
One nation, under God is still relevant.
and........
Lincoln's Gettysburg address should still be studied in our H.S classrooms.

Our founding fathers didn't do that part and it's not relevant.

 

[J-DONK]

What are founding fathers put in place is relevant.
One nation, under God is still relevant.
and........
Lincoln's Gettysburg address should still be studied in our H.S classrooms.

These statements are contradictory.

 

[J-DONK]

Our founding fathers didn't do that part and it's not relevant.

At least a few of our founding fathers would have hated adding God to a Pledge, and to our currency.

Christian Nationalism can't deal with the secular foundation of the country.

 

[t_rav_82]

No. Depends on the issue. Depends on the quote. Those gentlemen said many things. Not everything they uttered is relevant today. Some things are and some things are not.

And it depends on if TJ allows the quote. Only quotes that TJ wants. If he doesn't like it then the quote is too old and not applicable. This is right on brand with your inability to articulate your positions, you may as well just say "because I said so" since you don't have anything better to add.

 

[CoolBrees]

How bad is your history knowledge if you think the Founding Fathers added "One nation under God"

Unless you think Eisenhower is a Founding Father

 

[Neworleansfan]

What are founding fathers put in place is relevant.
One nation, under God is still relevant.
and........
Lincoln's Gettysburg address should still be studied in our H.S classrooms.

Who Created the Pledge of Allegiance? | HISTORY

The Pledge of Allegiance has been used in the United States for over 100 years, yet the 31‑word oath recited today differs significantly from the original draft. The idea of a verbal vow to the American flag first gained traction in 1885, when a Civil War veteran named Colonel George Balch...

www.history.com

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Our founding fathers didn't do that part and it's not relevant.

Oh well.
I googled it and you are of course correct.
Here is some helpful info...

Pledge of Allegiance - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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There are Founding Fathers references to God, or Providence, etc. that are still relevant today. Too bad I chose the wrong thing to attempt to make my point.
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Christian Quotes from the Founding Fathers

Contrary to the claims of 'free-thinkers,' atheists, agnostics and other irreligionists, America was not founded by deists, but overwhelmingly by men and women of the Christian faith and those who recognized the necessity of Christian morality in public life. Throughout the twentieth century, a...

christianheritagefellowship.com

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Founding Fathers and Religion Quotes

Have you wondered about the founding fathers and religion? Do you ask yourself whether the founding fathers believed in God or if they believed in Jesus?

theselfevidenttruth.com

 

[MT15]

Those are two completely unbiased sources there. Hoo boy…..

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Oh well.
I google it and you are of course correct.
There are references to God, or Providence, etc. from the Founding Fathers that are still relevant today. Too bad I chose the wrong thing to attempt to make my point.
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Christian Quotes from the Founding Fathers

Contrary to the claims of 'free-thinkers,' atheists, agnostics and other irreligionists, America was not founded by deists, but overwhelmingly by men and women of the Christian faith and those who recognized the necessity of Christian morality in public life. Throughout the twentieth century, a...

christianheritagefellowship.com

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Founding Fathers and Religion Quotes

Have you wondered about the founding fathers and religion? Do you ask yourself whether the founding fathers believed in God or if they believed in Jesus?

theselfevidenttruth.com

They deliberately kept God out of their founding documents. You can read about their discussions with it. While the vast majority of them were religious men, they didn't all agree on religion and didn't want the government dictating religion to the people.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

They deliberately kept God out of their founding documents. You can read about their discussions with it. While the vast majority of them were religious men, they didn't all agree on religion and didn't want the government dictating religion to the people.

The general consensus I believe was "We all agree that we are focused on our creator God...but some are Baptists, some are Presbyterians, some are Quakers..etc., etc. etc."
We don't want to have a Government approved church....to each his or her own.

 

[MT15]

The general consensus I believe was "We all agree that we are focused on our creator God...but some are Baptists, some are Presbyterians, some are Quakers..etc., etc. etc."
We don't want to have a Government approved church....to each his or her own.

How do you square this acknowledgment with your thirst to force everyone to abide by your own religious interpretations?