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[SaintForLife]

I figured we needed a thread specifically about the media.

There was a very big correction recently by the Washington Post.


That story was supposedly "independently confirmed" by CNN, NBC News, USA Today, ABC News, & PBS News Hour. How could they all have gotten the quote wrong if they actually independently confirmed the story?






Why do all the errors always go in one political direction and not closer to 50/50?

 

[SaintForLife]

Posting one statement doesn’t mean I endorse everything this guy has ever said. Why do you treat people like this? Are you able to comprehend that people can be complex? That they are able to hold different sorts of ideas, some good and worthwhile and some that are just wrong?

You constantly complain or claim the people I post aren't credible, are bad people, etc. Why do you not apply the same standard to your posts?

You have got to get over this overly simplistic, trivial view of people as either all good or all bad. Take each comment for what it is worth. It’s okay to bring up people’s bad takes when it impacts the comment that was posted, for sure. But posting this - without any comment of your own, and without addressing the comment that was posted - is just not actually contributing to the discussion. Not helpful.

You posted a tweet from a racist. I can see why you got defensive about it. You post known neocon liars like Frum & Applebaum & known racists like J.Walsh & R.Wilson, and also Caruso. If you continue to act like the message board hall monitor then you should expect to get the same standard applied to your posts.

Also-I’m not going to spend any time reading the source material here because I simply don’t care enough to spend any time on it. But what you have posted has a couple of red flags. First of all-Daily Caller is the opposite of a neutral source here. Highly partisan and known to skew facts to fit a narrative. Numerous failed fact checks. Also, notice the nuanced language - “appeared to make derogatory comments”. So, even though this organization has no issue bending the truth they felt the need to qualify their statement about his comments. Big red flag.

You didn't mind all the lies and deceit from the media during Russiagate. The press vs the president article showed how many mainstream media sources(that you still consider credible) were dishonest and deceitful.

The press versus the president, part one

<p>INTRODUCTION: ‘I realized early on I had two jobs’ The end of the long inquiry into whether Donald Trump was colluding with Russia came in July 2019, when Robert Mueller III, the special counsel, took seven, sometimes painful, hours to essentially say no. “Holy shirt, Bob Mueller is not going...

www.cjr.org

Why don't we just look at his BS excuse?


What a load of crap. He blames what he said on his blog on conservatives. Of course Stelter doesn't push back at all.

 

[SaintForLife]

Does Angelo Carusone's use of derogatory statements nullify his opinion of Lachlan Murdoch?

No it doesn't. I'm just applying MT15's same standard that she applies to my posts.

It does seem like Carusone has an axe to grind.

 

[MT15]

What a load of crap. He blames what he said on his blog on conservatives. Of course Stelter doesn't push back at all.

You have a reading comprehension problem. He absolutely didn’t blame those posts on conservatives. He said those posts were a clumsy attempt at satire while he was in college, and that he wasn’t any good at it, so he stopped doing it.

You can certainly choose to not believe his explanation - but what you shouldn’t do is change what he said into something else entirely.

What he actually blames conservatives for is bringing these posts up every few years and acting like they are currently relevant to his beliefs, instead of made while he was in college. And failing to provide the crucial context that they were intended as satire. Which they evidently do and have done.

This actually explains why the Daily Wire felt the need to qualify their allegations. And they do it knowing full well that people like you will blow right past the qualification, and pay it no mind.

 

[SaintForLife]

You have a reading comprehension problem. He absolutely didn’t blame those posts on conservatives. He said those posts were a clumsy attempt at satire while he was in college, and that he wasn’t any good at it, so he stopped doing it.

You can certainly choose to not believe his explanation - but what you shouldn’t do is change what he said into something else entirely.

What he actually blames conservatives for is bringing these posts up every few years and acting like they are currently relevant to his beliefs, instead of made while he was in college. And failing to provide the crucial context that they were intended as satire. Which they evidently do and have done.

This actually explains why the Daily Wire felt the need to qualify their allegations. And they do it knowing full well that people like you will blow right past the qualification, and pay it no mind.

I understand what he said. He claimed it was a poor attempt of a caricature of conservatives. I didn't claim he said conservatives wrote any of it, but he's still blaming it on conservatives. That's not even a credible excuse.

If someone makes it their job to highlight what conservatives say online, then shouldn't it be fair game to point out the racist things he said in the past?

 

[cuddlemonkey]

No it doesn't.

You should have just stopped here. The rest of your post is pointless.

 

[efil4]

 

[cuddlemonkey]

You have a reading comprehension problem. He absolutely didn’t blame those posts on conservatives. He said those posts were a clumsy attempt at satire while he was in college, and that he wasn’t any good at it, so he stopped doing it.

You can certainly choose to not believe his explanation - but what you shouldn’t do is change what he said into something else entirely.

What he actually blames conservatives for is bringing these posts up every few years and acting like they are currently relevant to his beliefs, instead of made while he was in college. And failing to provide the crucial context that they were intended as satire. Which they evidently do and have done.

This actually explains why the Daily Wire felt the need to qualify their allegations. And they do it knowing full well that people like you will blow right past the qualification, and pay it no mind.

It's almost like S4L's stance of deriding context was a setup for this exact moment. lol

 

[MT15]

but he's still blaming it on conservatives.

What part of - it was an attempt at satire, but I wasn’t any good at it - blames conservatives?

I stand by my opinion that you have a reading comprehension problem.

 

[MT15]

then shouldn't it be fair game to point out the racist things he said in the past?

Is there any obligation when pointing out past statements to give the time frame when they were made, or to give the context that the statements were intended as satire? Or no, just pretend they were made recently and were not satiric? Or do you think maybe that context might be important?

 

[SaintForLife]

You should have just stopped here. The rest of your post is pointless.

I would say the same of your constant lectures. Were you picked on in school?

 

[MT15]

How many times will SFL get burned by posting crappy tweets full of disinformation, lies or propaganda before he wises up and starts checking things out before he runs here to attempt a “gotcha”?

It’s a rhetorical question…..

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I would say the same of your constant lectures. Were you picked on in school?

You have said the same and you displayed just as much ignorance then as you do now. You are comparing MT criticizing your sources by pointing out their bias to you dredging up poorly written satire to impugn someone's opinion of a person. Do you see how completely different these situations are? If not, I sincerely invite you to PM me and we can discuss this without clogging up this thread.

 

[SaintForLife]

The media is basically an arm of the Democrat Party.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

The media is basically an arm of the Democrat Party.

Very interesting article. Which parts of it did you disagree with most?

 

[MT15]

Very interesting article. Which parts of it did you disagree with most?

you think he read it - any of it? Because I don’t.

 

[MT15]

The media is basically an arm of the Democrat Party.

False. Doesn’t matter how many times you say it, it simply isn’t true. Your propagandist in the tweet definitely mischaracterizes the article. Did you read the article? BTW - it’s an opinion piece and is clearly labeled as such. I guess your propagandist was counting on you not noticing that fact.

Mainstream media soft-pedals Trump‘s corruption and crimes. It happens almost daily. They parrot the words “Biden family business” when there is no such thing - it’s a Republican talking point. There are many more examples.

Then there is a large contingent of completely partisan right wing media - which play fast and loose with the truth all the time.

 

[MT15]

At least Brooks is owning up to his being .. well, owned, lol.

 

[MT15]

This kind of dishonest or incompetent reporting plays right into the R’s hands.