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I figured we needed a thread specifically about the media.

There was a very big correction recently by the Washington Post.


That story was supposedly "independently confirmed" by CNN, NBC News, USA Today, ABC News, & PBS News Hour. How could they all have gotten the quote wrong if they actually independently confirmed the story?






Why do all the errors always go in one political direction and not closer to 50/50?
 
Not holding CNN up as an example of great journalism, but CNN is covering both the Russian insurrection story and the Titan submersible story pretty evenly. I'm streaming CNN to get the latest updates on the Russian story.
They didn't really start covering the Wagner story until 10 eastern time when when stuff had been out for 3-4 hours at least. They were pretty slow to pick it up and it was wall to wall sub stuff up to that point.

The Wagner story absolutely should be front and center. It's very possibly a history changing story.
 
They didn't really start covering the Wagner story until 10 eastern time when when stuff had been out for 3-4 hours at least. They were pretty slow to pick it up and it was wall to wall sub stuff up to that point.

The Wagner story absolutely should be front and center. It's very possibly a history changing story.
Everyone was slow to report the Wagner story, because they had to verify it at first. That's how it should be.

You can only report on a story as you get more information. CNN has made the Wagner story the primary story, anytime they get new information or they can line up people experience on the subject. It's a Friday night, every major news outlet's primary teams are off the clock. CNN is going to show Putin's public speech when it occurs.

There's a lot of things to criticize CNN for, and I do, but their coverage of the Wagner story is not one of them. I'm only streaming them, because they are the easiest one for me to reliably stream.
 
Guess this can go here, but could have gone a few places
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I apologise in advance, because this column is about something that didn’t happen. Too much is actually happening in the world that deserves our attention, but in this instance, it’s worth pausing, and then tracing, how fiction becomes fact.

By now, you may have heard that a girl in a school in Rye in East Sussex said she was a cat, that she “identified” as such, and that others who disagreed with her were chastised by a teacher. If you have come across this story, you would be entirely forgiven for thinking it was real.

“Catgirl: today’s culture of affirmation is failing children,” wailed the Telegraph. Nick Ferrari on LBC hosted a whole phone-in segment about the story. The Mail unveiled an “investigation” that revealed this was not an isolated incident, but part of a larger phenomenon where children are identifying as cats, dogs, dinosaurs and “furries”.

You may have a good nose for nonsense, and may have thought that this story sounded wildly implausible, but even that would not have saved you from eventually having to consider it to be true. Because before long, the leader of the opposition, a minister of the crown and our prime minister himself had, as per the customary terminology for such controversies, “waded in”.

A spokesperson for Keir Starmer said: “I think children should be told to identify as children.” Downing Street issued a statement to the Telegraph. Kemi Badenoch requested a snap Ofsted inspection, on the basis that a recording was circulating of “a teacher acting inappropriately regarding her pupils’ beliefs about sex, gender and a fellow pupil who claimed to identify as a cat”…..

Cat child didn’t happen, just as Rule, Britannia! and Land of Hope and Glory were not axed from what was described as the BBC’s “Black Lives Matter Proms”. Nor was Cambridge University “forced to drop white authors”, or a Muslim bus driver allowed to throw his passengers out so he could pray, or an Iraqi caught “red-handed” with a bomb awarded thousands of pounds in compensation for being kept in custody too long.

I could go on, but there simply isn’t enough space. There was enough in all these examples for them to withstand a cursory look, for them to be regarded in the final fact count as perhaps not technically true, but true enough essentially.

The problem isn’t anything as trite as an epidemic of “fake news”. Half-truths and full lies are more concerned with diverting political consciousness and consumption to the trenches of identity and lifestyle preoccupation, and away from more critical areas such as the political and economic decisions relating to our standard of living, and even the very education system that troubles the media because of a nonexistent cat child.

That very same system faces the crises of poor recruitment and teachers quitting in high numbers due to low pay, high workloads, and the fact that social care, special needs and mental healthcare resources are all but vanishing.

It helps that these stories are cheap to produce. They are mostly recycled copy and skimming the froth from social media. It helps that they sell well: fear always has a hot market.

And all this diversion and drama suits our politicians. Boris Johnson, as prime minister, jumping on a rightwing crowd-pleasing story about the BBC, declared “we are not embarrassed to sing Rule, Britannia!”. The facts are not what matters as the bandwagon rolls: all that matters is how the situation is used to advance an image, to reap political advantage, to shape a national mood.

But the costs of this are high. Not just to our ability to negotiate inevitable changes and accommodations needed in a modern, compassionate society, but to the people at the heart of these distortions and fabrications – immigrants, racial and sexual minorities, disabled benefit claimants. They are caught in the bandwagon spokes: mangled and traduced.……



 
The controversial host Jesse Watters will take the Fox News weeknight prime-time slot once filled by Tucker Carlson, the network said on Monday.

Laura Ingraham will host at 7pm, Watters at 8pm, Sean Hannity at 9pm and Greg Gutfeld at 10pm, Fox News said.

One prominent Fox critic said Watters’ move showed a “dogged commitment to bigotry and deceit as well as an indication of [Fox’s] desperation to regain audience share”……

Though arguably less focused on far-right politics, Watters is a controversialist in the Carlson mode, often baiting mainstream media with harsh, insensitive or arguably racist remarks.

In 2016, he attracted controversy for a segment filmed in Chinatown in New York City that he said was “tongue-in-cheek” but which then mayor Bill de Blasio called “vile, racist behaviour”.

In December 2021, Watters said members of the public should “ambush” Anthony Fauci, Joe Biden’s senior scientific adviser, and “go in for the kill shot”.

Fauci, who received death threats throughout the coronavirus pandemic, said Watters should be fired.

Fox said it was “more than clear that Jesse Watters was using a metaphor for asking hard-hitting questions to Dr Fauci about gain-of-function research”.

Less than a month later, Watters, also a co-host of The Five, was given the 7pm prime-time slot from which he now moves to the heart of the weeknight schedule.

Last week, in a segment complaining about homelessness (a regular target) in San Francisco, Watters called unhoused people “bags of flesh mutating on the sidewalk”.

In an Islamophobic remark, he also called San Francisco a “fentanyl caliphate” which he said permitted unhoused people to “rape, rob and steal”.……




 
The controversial host Jesse Watters will take the Fox News weeknight prime-time slot once filled by Tucker Carlson, the network said on Monday.

Laura Ingraham will host at 7pm, Watters at 8pm, Sean Hannity at 9pm and Greg Gutfeld at 10pm, Fox News said.

One prominent Fox critic said Watters’ move showed a “dogged commitment to bigotry and deceit as well as an indication of [Fox’s] desperation to regain audience share”……

Though arguably less focused on far-right politics, Watters is a controversialist in the Carlson mode, often baiting mainstream media with harsh, insensitive or arguably racist remarks.

In 2016, he attracted controversy for a segment filmed in Chinatown in New York City that he said was “tongue-in-cheek” but which then mayor Bill de Blasio called “vile, racist behaviour”.

In December 2021, Watters said members of the public should “ambush” Anthony Fauci, Joe Biden’s senior scientific adviser, and “go in for the kill shot”.

Fauci, who received death threats throughout the coronavirus pandemic, said Watters should be fired.

Fox said it was “more than clear that Jesse Watters was using a metaphor for asking hard-hitting questions to Dr Fauci about gain-of-function research”.

Less than a month later, Watters, also a co-host of The Five, was given the 7pm prime-time slot from which he now moves to the heart of the weeknight schedule.

Last week, in a segment complaining about homelessness (a regular target) in San Francisco, Watters called unhoused people “bags of flesh mutating on the sidewalk”.

In an Islamophobic remark, he also called San Francisco a “fentanyl caliphate” which he said permitted unhoused people to “rape, rob and steal”.……




He's not as bad as Tucker, but he's pretty much Carlson lite.
 
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What??? Versus someone spent a lot of time in Delaware, our first state? What difference does that make, the state isn't American enough?

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Fox News host Jesse Watters marked his promotion to the network’s 8 p.m. time slot by calling Barack Obama “a citizen of the world” more than a citizen of the United States.

During Monday’s installment of The Five – Watters’ other show, which he co-hosts – he addressed remarks by the former president on CNN. Obama spoke about the massive coverage of the ill-fated Titan submersible in which five people were killed via implosion – compared to a boat carrying migrants that sank near Greece, killing hundreds.

“Twenty-four-hour coverage,” Obama said of the time spent on the sub. “At the same time, right here, just off the coast of Greece we had 700 people dead… It’s not dominating in the same way. In some ways, it’s indicative of the degree to which people’s life chances have grown so disparate.”

Watters scoffed at the former president’s assessment.

“Well, when you’re a citizen of the world, you always think about the world instead of the United States,” he began, before listing reasons why Obama might have allegiances to regions that aren’t the U.S. “Remember, this is a guy whose father has roots in Africa. This is a guy who spent a lot of his childhood in Southeast Asia.”

Obama’s father was born in Kenya and as a child, the future president spent two years living in Indonesia.

“And then [he] spent a lot of time in Hawaii. Was the last state to get a star on the flag?” Watters continued, referring to Obama’s place of birth and Hawaii’s status as the newest state. “But, he’s never really looking at things from an American perspective. He’s always speaking to the world – even when he’s speaking to us, he’s appealing to the world.”..........

 
GREG GUTFELD (CO-HOST): It's okay to cry, my fellow guys. A survey finds that 71% of modern men confess to being in touch with how they feel and 82% of women are saying the same thing. I can't even see who this survey is. 37% of men say being called sensitive would be a compliment versus just 23% of women. I know.

First, I'm going to go to Jesse: I think we're learning that RFK Jr. was right. There's substances in the water that reduce testosterone and when you reduce testosterone, you get these weepy men and this rise in nonbinary affiliations.

JESSE WATTERS (CO-HOST): Yeah, so I'm not drinking water anymore because you told me it turns you trans............

 
GREG GUTFELD (CO-HOST): It's okay to cry, my fellow guys. A survey finds that 71% of modern men confess to being in touch with how they feel and 82% of women are saying the same thing. I can't even see who this survey is. 37% of men say being called sensitive would be a compliment versus just 23% of women. I know.

First, I'm going to go to Jesse: I think we're learning that RFK Jr. was right. There's substances in the water that reduce testosterone and when you reduce testosterone, you get these weepy men and this rise in nonbinary affiliations.

JESSE WATTERS (CO-HOST): Yeah, so I'm not drinking water anymore because you told me it turns you trans............


They're a week away from filling the Alex Jones "GAY FROGS!" hole in the market.
 
They're a week away from filling the Alex Jones "GAY FROGS!" hole in the market.

GUTFELD: Yeah, it turns you trans, especially if you're a frog.
One of the harms that comes from these types spewing this type of nonsense is that it make any who raises concerns, about the endocrine disrupting chemicals that we are being polluted with, seem like nut jobs too. One of the most significant health risks we all face is the dangerously high level of endocrine disrupters in the food and water we eat. A lot of those chemicals are forever or near forever chemicals.

I'm sure the corporations who produce that pollution are always glad to see these nutjobs get air time to spread their disinformation, because it keeps people from taking the true harms of their polluting seriously. I'm talking in general and not about either one of you specifically.
 
Tucker Carlson’s Twitter show has reportedly suffered a significant drop in viewership since his debut episode of Tucker on Twitter.

Journalist Matt Binder tweeted the number of video views the former Fox News host has garnered since his Twitter show began on 6 June. While his first show attracted 26.7m video views, the subsequent episode attracted half as many: 13.9m.

His most recent episode, his eighth, only garnered 3.8m video views, according to Binder. It counts as a “view” if someone watched the video for more than two seconds.

Media Matters senior fellow Matthew Gertz also calculated the views per posts, noting a significant decline since Carlson’s show launched. Although the first post generated 120m views, his most recent only generated 8.6m.……

 
A group of men who helped establish Fox Newssay they now believe the conservative broadcaster has become a “disinformation machine” that’s destabilising democracy.

In a blog post on Wednesday, Preston Padden, a former lobbyist for the company, Ken Solomon, a former distribution executive, and Bill Reyner, a former lawyer for the then-nascent cable network, all offered a mea culpa.

“We never envisioned, and would not knowingly have enabled, the disinformation machine that, in our opinion, Fox has become,” the men wrote……

“At the time of our work in the 1990’s, we all greatly admired Rupert Murdoch and his vision and bold efforts,” the blog post reads. “We genuinely believed that the creation of a fourth competitive force in broadcast television was in the public interest.”

Now, however, the former Fox allies believe the network is causing direct harm.

“Arguably the worst has been Fox’s role in promoting Trump’s ‘Big Lie’ about alleged widespread fraud in the 2020 election and, in our opinion, Fox’s role in contributing to the January 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol that undermined our democracy,” the post continues. “In fact, the connection between Fox and the January 6 attack is so strong that multiple Jan 6 defendants have pleaded not guilty arguing they were suffering from ‘Foxitis’ — a disease caused by watching false news on Fox!”…….

 

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