Media Tracker (3 Viewers)

[SaintForLife]

I figured we needed a thread specifically about the media.

There was a very big correction recently by the Washington Post.


That story was supposedly "independently confirmed" by CNN, NBC News, USA Today, ABC News, & PBS News Hour. How could they all have gotten the quote wrong if they actually independently confirmed the story?






Why do all the errors always go in one political direction and not closer to 50/50?

 

[Taurus]

The U.S. was going into a different terrible slide before Reagan. Reagan was needed at that time in history. To me, the terrible slide started after Clinton was elected, in the way Republicans responded to his election. That's when the Newt Gingriches and Rush Limbaughs of the world pushed the GOP at the top of the slide.

The US didn't need to let Evangelicals into the halls of power, nor did we need to be taught to expect bad government. We needed Reagan like we need Yellowstone to erupt.

 

[UriUT]

Yeah, this...

 

[UriUT]

Nancy Pelosi Snaps at CNN’s Jake Tapper for Mentioning Trump’s Smear at Harris

“Why would you even cover that?” the former House speaker told Jake Tapper.

www.thedailybeast.com

[“I’m sure that you hear from progressive voters, Democratic voters who say—as I hear from them on social media—[that] the media made such a big deal out of Joe Biden’s alleged cognitive problems, [and so] why don’t they talk about Donald Trump’s cognitive problems?” Tapper said. “Well, Donald Trump talked about that just a second ago, and I want to get your reaction.”​

He then aired a clip of the 78-year-old former president earlier in the day accusing his competitor of having “bigger cognitive problems” than President Joe Biden.]​

Someone has to explain tapper's logic to me. He acknowledges the criticism of the media's grading on a curve regarding trump and their disregard of trump's multiple gaffes and incoherence. He then proceeds to play a clip of trump accusing harris of cognitive issues. What????

Make it make sense.

 

[SFIDC3]

Nancy Pelosi Snaps at CNN’s Jake Tapper for Mentioning Trump’s Smear at Harris

“Why would you even cover that?” the former House speaker told Jake Tapper.

www.thedailybeast.com

[“I’m sure that you hear from progressive voters, Democratic voters who say—as I hear from them on social media—[that] the media made such a big deal out of Joe Biden’s alleged cognitive problems, [and so] why don’t they talk about Donald Trump’s cognitive problems?” Tapper said. “Well, Donald Trump talked about that just a second ago, and I want to get your reaction.”​

He then aired a clip of the 78-year-old former president earlier in the day accusing his competitor of having “bigger cognitive problems” than President Joe Biden.]​

Someone has to explain tapper's logic to me. He acknowledges the criticism of the media's grading on a curve regarding trump and their disregard of trump's multiple gaffes and incoherence. He then proceeds to play a clip of trump accusing harris of cognitive issues. What????

Make it make sense.

It makes zero sense.....it's all about getting clicks and generating revenue, and keeping Trump relevant.....because they make money off him.....it's disgusting and not journalism....at all.....disgraceful

 

[LA - L.A.]

Someone has to explain tapper's logic to me. He acknowledges the criticism of the media's grading on a curve regarding trump and their disregard of trump's multiple gaffes and incoherence. He then proceeds to play a clip of trump accusing harris of cognitive issues. What????

Make it make sense.

These fine gentlemen explained it very well quite some time ago:



One of the best songs ever.

 

[UriUT]

It makes zero sense.....it's all about getting clicks and generating revenue, and keeping Trump relevant.....because they make money off him.....it's disgusting and not journalism....at all.....disgraceful

Further infuriating was during this same response by Pelosi when she brought up the jobs creation and the economy at large. He quickly chimed in, "because of the pandemic..." Pelosi blasted him for that. If he was going to forgive trump for his incompetent presidency due to covid, why then not say how badly he mismanaged that pandemic response. Tapper's feeble response was not forgiving, "just noting".

Jfc, do a little research tapper and hold trump to the same standards. Trump's claim that he would bring back manufacturing jobs...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/16/trump-manufacturing-jobs-record-415588

[But the White House’s trade wars kicked the sector into another slump in 2019, with Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Pennsylvania facing declines or plateaus in manufacturing employment even back in February — well before Covid-19 forced layoffs at dozens of plants. As of July — the most recent month for which data is available — each state is down between 20,000 and 40,000 workers from prepandemic levels.​

That record presents a particularly daunting challenge for Trump to replicate his stunning victory of 2016 as he struggles to overtake Democrat Joe Biden, who appeals more to Midwestern voters than Hillary Clinton did four years ago.​

Yet the president is framing his policies as an unmitigated success.]​

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Yeah, perpetual infrastructure week with zero results and declining manufacturing jobs before covid.

Yeah, but look at this fact check by the nytimes.

Debate Fact Check: Harris and Trump on the Economy, Immigration and Abortion

The 2024 presidential candidates clashed on their records and their visions for the country’s future in a high-stakes debate.

www.nytimes.com

“He lost manufacturing jobs.”​

— Vice President Kamala Harris

This needs context.​

The United States had lost nearly 200,000 factory jobs at the end of Donald Trump’s presidency compared with when Trump took office. Those losses were largely a product of the pandemic recession.

Yes, nytimes and tapper, blindly blame the pandemic for everything. But of course forgive him for that incompetency while you are at it.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The voting machine company Smartmatic and the conservative outlet Newsmax have settled a closely watched defamation lawsuit days before it was set to go to trial in Delaware.

A spokesman for the Delaware courts said the case had been settled on Thursday. He did not offer additional details. The trial was set to begin in Wilmington on Monday.

The terms of the settlement are not public.


“Newsmax is pleased to announce it has resolved the litigation brought by Smartmatic through a confidential settlement,” Bill Daddi, a spokesman for the network, said in a statement.

After the 2020 election, Newsmax aired several false claims about the company, whose voting machines were only used in Los Angeles county in 2020. The network repeatedly aired false claims from Trump allies that the software was widely used across the country and that it had been hacked to change votes.

Smartmatic sued Newsmax, Fox, One America News Network (OANN) and others for broadcasting their false claims. It settled the case with OANN earlier this year and the Fox case is still pending in New York.…..

Newsmax and Smartmatic settle 2020 US election defamation lawsuit

Pair reach agreement days before case, filed after rightwing network aired false voter claims, was due to go to trial

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

As voting got under way for the 2024 US presidential election, the voting technology company Smartmatic and the conservative outlet Newsmax reached an agreement about election lies in the last one.

Smartmatic settled a separate defamation lawsuit with One America News Network (OANN), another far right network, earlier this year in a confidential settlement.

Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, two Atlanta election workers who faced vicious harassment after various networks spread false claims about them, settled with OANN in 2022.

Eric Coomer, a former Dominion employee, settled with Newsmax in 2021. Dominion, another voting equipment company, settled with Fox for $787.5mon the eve of trial.

Some of the settlements have come with on-air apologies and retractions. Others, including the agreement between Fox and Dominion, have not.

In some cases, the terms of the agreements have not been disclosed at all, leaving the public in the dark about what price, if any, outlets are paying for spreading election lies.

Smartmatic and Dominion, as well as Freeman and Moss, all still have a number of libel suits pending against far-right outlets and other Donald Trumpallies.

But just one of the defamation cases so far has reached the trial stage and the rest have ended in settlements. These agreements – which can lack disclosure or accountability – underscore how defamation law is limited in the sense of justice it can bring to the public for election misinformation.

Defamation law is an area of the legal system designed around specificity – it is structured to allow specific people to receive financial redress for a specific harm done to their reputation.

“It’s definitely more complicated than people think because libel law can only go at misinformation that damages a person’s reputation,” said Lyrissa Lidsky, a law professor at the University of Florida.

“Most of the misinformation, especially in the election context, is not targeted at an individual in the way that these allegations were. And so defamation is not going to save us from election misinformation.”………

What price are US media outlets paying for spreading election lies?

A wave of lawsuits ending in settlements show defamation law is not going to save us from election misinformation

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

Polls indicate that Americans’ trust in the media is at an all-time low. Those on the Right often refer to much of what the mainstream media reports as “fake news,” while those on the Left characterize much of the reporting from the Right as a “disinformation” problem. However, the approach to resolving these concerns remains partisan.

This issue has come into sharper focus recently following comments by John Kerry, former secretary of state under President Obama, at a World Economic Forum conference. He described the First Amendment as “a major block” to achieving accountability in media reporting on facts.

Kerry’s remarks underscore the delicate balance between protecting free speech and addressing what different political factions consider fake news or disinformation.

“There’s a lot of discussion now on how to curb those entities to guarantee accountability on facts,” Kerry said. “But if people go to one source that has an agenda and puts out disinformation, our First Amendment stands as a major block to just hammer it out of existence.”

Kerry noted that the problem of disinformation is unique to democracies, where no single leader has the authority to define what constitutes factual information. He suggested that the upcoming elections in November could lead to changes, depending on the outcomes for Congress and the White House.

“What we need is to win the ground, win the right to govern, by hopefully winning enough votes that you’re free to implement change,” he said.

Kerry’s comments have revived sentiments expressed by progressive Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in 2021, when she called for greater restraint on media practices during an Instagram live video.

“We’re going to have to figure out how we reign in our media environment so you can’t just spew misinformation and disinformation,” she said. “It’s one thing to have differing opinions, but it’s another entirely to just say things that are false. So that’s something we’re looking into.”……..

John Kerry calls First Amendment 'major block' in holding media 'accountable'

Kerry said disinformation is unique to democracies, where no single leader has the authority to define what constitutes factual information.

san.com

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Guess what... I'm not paying for the New York Times either...

CNN, one of the most popular news websites in the world, is starting to ask some of its visitors to pay $3.99 a month for access.

On Tuesday, the news organization is laying the first bricks in a so-called paywall that should, over time, help foot the bill for CNN’s journalism around the world.

“Starting today, we are asking users in the United States to pay a small recurring fee for unlimited access to CNN.com’s world-class articles,” Alex MacCallum, CNN’s executive vice president of digital products and services, wrote in a memo outlining the plan.

The average visitor to CNN’s website, who may only read a few articles a month, will not be prompted to pay at this time. “Only after users consume a certain number of free articles will they be prompted to subscribe,” MacCallum explained. “In addition to unlimited access to CNN.com’s articles, subscribers will receive benefits like exclusive election features, original documentaries, a curated daily selection of our most distinctive journalism, and fewer digital ads.”
Brian Williams, Anchor, "The 11th Hour with Brian Williams" on Tuesday, November 8, 2016 from New York .

MacCallum and her boss Mark Thompson, the chairman and chief executive of CNN, are both veterans of The New York Times, which is widely envied in the news business for its success in converting online readers and gamers into paying subscribers.

CNN launches a digital paywall, charging some users to read articles for the first time | CNN Business

CNN, one of the most popular news websites in the world, is starting to ask some of its visitors to pay $3.99 a month for access.

www.cnn.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

NEW YORK (AP) — Nearly a decade into the Trump Era of politics, less than a month from his third Election Day as the Republican candidate for president and there is still remarkably little consensus within the media about how best to cover Donald Trump.

Are reporters “sanewashing” Trump, or are they succumbing to the “banality of crazy?” Should his rallies be aired at length, or not at all? To fact-check or not fact-check?

“If it wasn’t so serious, I would just be fascinated by all of it,” said Parker Molloy, media critic and author of The Present Age column on Substack. “If it didn’t have to do with who is going to be president, I would watch this and marvel at how difficult it is to cover one person who seems to challenge all of the rules of journalism.”

Books and studies will be written about Trump and the press long after he is gone. He’s always been press-conscious and press-savvy, even as a celebrity builder in Manhattan who took a keen interest in what tabloid gossip columns said about him.

Most issues stem from Trump’s disdain for constraints, his willingness to say the outrageous and provably untrue, and for his fans to believe him instead of those reporting on him.

It has even come full circle, where some experts now think the best way to cover him is to give people a greater opportunity to hear what he says — the opposite of what was once conventional wisdom.

‘Sanewashing’ creates an alternative narrative, some say

Molloy first used the phrase “sanewashing” this fall to describe a tendency among journalists to launder some of Trump’s wilder or barely coherent statements to make them seem like the cogent pronouncements of a typical politician.

One example she cites: CNN distilling a Trump post on Truth Social that rambled on about the “radical left” and “fake news” into a straight news lead about the former president agreeing to debate his Democratic opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris.

At its best, polishing Trump creates an alternative narrative, she said. At its worst, it’s misinformation.

During a Wisconsin rally the last weekend of September, Trump talked of danger from criminals allowed in the country illegally. “They will walk into your kitchen, they’ll cut your throat,” he said.

The New Republic writer Michael Tomasky was surprised not to find the quote in The New York Times’ and Washington Post’s coverage, although The Times noted that Trump vilified undocumented immigrants, and there were other media references to what Trump himself called a dark speech.

“Trump constantly saying extreme, racist violent stuff can’t always be new,” Tomasky wrote. “But it is always reality. Is the press justified in ignoring reality just because it isn’t new?”…….

Sanewashing? The banality of crazy? A decade into the Trump era, media hasn't figured him out

Is the media “sanewashing” Donald Trump? Numbed by the “banality of crazy?” Should television networks show him more, or less? How do you fact-check him? Should you?

apnews.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

Far-right site Gateway Pundit settles defamation suit with election workers

Website falsely accused Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss of wrongdoing in 2020 election

www.theguardian.com

 

[MT15]

This is horrible.

 

[Optimus Prime]

This is horrible.

Isn’t MSNBC’s whole thing offending Trump?

 

[MT15]

Palette cleanser: we had Northern Lights tonight and I thought I’d share:

 

[MT15]

Remember the Twitter user who got permanently suspended for linking to the Vance vetting files that were hacked? Guess who demanded his suspension and which “free speech absolutist” complied? I swear every single accusation is a confession. Turns out the Trump campaign was behind the suspension.

 

[Eeyore]

I’m Running Out of Ways to Explain How Bad This Is
What’s happening in America today is something darker than a misinformation crisis.

By Charlie Warzel

12ft

 

[MT15]

Example 1 billion about how media treats Dems and Rs differently.