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[SaintForLife]

I figured we needed a thread specifically about the media.

There was a very big correction recently by the Washington Post.


That story was supposedly "independently confirmed" by CNN, NBC News, USA Today, ABC News, & PBS News Hour. How could they all have gotten the quote wrong if they actually independently confirmed the story?






Why do all the errors always go in one political direction and not closer to 50/50?

 

[superchuck500]

It's just funny that Democrat activists masquerading as journalists are upset that Trump was doing an interview with someone who's supporting him.

They weren’t really

 

[Huntn]

So they have now decided to question her religion. In a way I’m sure they never have questioned Trump. (I think she grew up Baptist)

He’s got a golden calf in Trump Tower… Hey, whatever shirt they can get to stick to the wall, when it doesn’t hit the fan.

 

[MT15]

They weren’t really

Yeah, I was puzzled by that. I didn’t see anybody that was upset.

 

[Huntn]

I figured we needed a thread specifically about the media.

There was a very big correction recently by the Washington Post.


That story was supposedly "independently confirmed" by CNN, NBC News, USA Today, ABC News, & PBS News Hour. How could they all have gotten the quote wrong if they actually independently confirmed the story?






Why do all the errors always go in one political direction and not closer to 50/50?

As far as questions, I frequently ask myself how anyone anywhere in the Media could possibly support a candidate who tells an audience "Christians, get out and vote, just this time. "You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians."

This is how Mr Projection talks for plausible deniability and his people swallow without hesitation. It's quite perplexing on multiple levels along with having a forum mouthpiece despite knowing what he is, incessantly touts Mr Trump's charms.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tells-christians-they-wont-have-vote-after-this-election-2024-07-27/

 

[MT15]

Axios has a new article about dropping violent crime rates. The preliminary numbers show significant declines.



Narrator: indeed Fox never mentioned these facts and had 4.5 hours of coverage of “violent crime” since it was released.

 

[MT15]

Okay this guy has some good commentary on media after watching a WH briefing. Copying and pasting due to too many tweets, bolding is mine.

“Watching the fantastic Sabrina Singh handle an incredibly hostile press corps right now is proof positive that Kamala Harris is right to keep her distance.

Let me explain.

This is not a press corps asking about policy, this is not a press corps trying to inform the public. This is a press corps out for blood. This is a press corps trying to score political hits at the expense of the United States.

The first example I want to bring up is a reporter who asked an extremely loaded question about whether there was “an intelligence failure” because the Ukrainians did not inform the US before launching an incursion into Russia.

She answered the question, yet he kept interrupting her and repeating his loaded phrasing.

Sabrina is put in an extremely difficult position because she is speaking about foreign policy at the White House and this reporter is asking a question like it’s a political campaign.

Not only is it wholly inappropriate in tone, it’s ridiculous bait.

The US intelligence agencies don’t *monitor our allies* as if we don’t trust them (and to the extent we do, we obviously can’t forking speak on that).

Ukraine tells us what we need to know when we need to know it. It doesn’t ask for permission to fight its own war nor should it. Only a press corps asking from the posture of someone who believes the US role IS to police its own allies would ask this question.

There is nothing wrong with this position. Yet this question is crafted literally to score political points.

In—forking—sane.

I thought that was it. Then came the last question. Essentially: “we’re on the brink of World War III, is the US failing?”

I shirt you not. He listened a bunch of bad things that happened across the world. October 7. Iran attack on Israel. Russia invading Ukraine. Taliban taking Afghanistan.

Then said: ‘is deterrence no longer working?’

What an insane question. Again, something that might be ridiculous framing but at least might make sense at a presidential debate.

But a press briefing???

This is a press that doesn’t want to be briefed.

They want to make news.

Kamala Harris should shun the national press corps entirely and focus on independent and local media only.

They are the only ones capable of asking questions voters care about and questions voters might want to care more about if they were properly informed.

What we don’t need is a press corps constantly looking to MAKE NEWS.”

 

[SFIDC3]

Okay this guy has some good commentary on media after watching a WH briefing. Copying and pasting due to too many tweets, bolding is mine.

“Watching the fantastic Sabrina Singh handle an incredibly hostile press corps right now is proof positive that Kamala Harris is right to keep her distance.

Let me explain.

This is not a press corps asking about policy, this is not a press corps trying to inform the public. This is a press corps out for blood. This is a press corps trying to score political hits at the expense of the United States.

The first example I want to bring up is a reporter who asked an extremely loaded question about whether there was “an intelligence failure” because the Ukrainians did not inform the US before launching an incursion into Russia.

She answered the question, yet he kept interrupting her and repeating his loaded phrasing.

Sabrina is put in an extremely difficult position because she is speaking about foreign policy at the White House and this reporter is asking a question like it’s a political campaign.

Not only is it wholly inappropriate in tone, it’s ridiculous bait.

The US intelligence agencies don’t *monitor our allies* as if we don’t trust them (and to the extent we do, we obviously can’t forking speak on that).

Ukraine tells us what we need to know when we need to know it. It doesn’t ask for permission to fight its own war nor should it. Only a press corps asking from the posture of someone who believes the US role IS to police its own allies would ask this question.

There is nothing wrong with this position. Yet this question is crafted literally to score political points.

In—forking—sane.

I thought that was it. Then came the last question. Essentially: “we’re on the brink of World War III, is the US failing?”

I shirt you not. He listened a bunch of bad things that happened across the world. October 7. Iran attack on Israel. Russia invading Ukraine. Taliban taking Afghanistan.

Then said: ‘is deterrence no longer working?’

What an insane question. Again, something that might be ridiculous framing but at least might make sense at a presidential debate.

But a press briefing???

This is a press that doesn’t want to be briefed.

They want to make news.

Kamala Harris should shun the national press corps entirely and focus on independent and local media only.

They are the only ones capable of asking questions voters care about and questions voters might want to care more about if they were properly informed.

What we don’t need is a press corps constantly looking to MAKE NEWS.”

Took a bit of time but it looks like the regular media is starting to resemble the sports media.....sensationalize everything, create conflict and make up stuff, media becomes the story, etc.....It's so easy to detect and it's both amazing and sad how many folks can't get enough of it....

 

[MT15]

WaPo reporter’s attempt at a “fact check”. She evidently cannot use reason to take two statements and come to their logical conclusion. The media is failing us with Trump, again. Unbelievable.

 

[UriUT]

This is an older article, but the argument is convincing.

Press “bothsideism” has failed Biden, and America

The journalistic curse of "bothsideism" has damaged Biden's presidency.

www.brookings.edu

The American press corps struggles every day to prove to readers and viewers that it is “fair and balanced,” the slogan cleverly adopted by Fox News. If it strongly criticized Donald Trump during his presidency (and since), then it follows that it must also strongly criticize Joe Biden, which is exactly what it’s done.

Fair, isn’t it? Balanced, too, right?

Wrong.

Not only does criticism not come in equal shapes and sizes, appropriate for all presidents and both political parties (a journalistic curse called “bothsideism”), but, when unfairly applied, as it has been in covering Biden, it runs the serious risk of further damaging our still free press and weakening our already shaky democracy.

The following is the crux of it, I believe.

By living on negativity, the press has only compounded the inherent problems of governing a democracy already spinning out of control.

There are simply so much negatively covered stories of Trump, and mostly precise, that another just won't matter. Whereas with Biden, the press perpetually hounds his age and even a sniff of cognitive decline piles on the negativity further. Negativity sells. Look at all those shock jocks. Stephen A Smith. Rage induced sports "debate" shows.

 

[SaintForLife]

There are simply so much negatively covered stories of Trump, and mostly precise, that another just won't matter. Whereas with Biden, the press perpetually hounds his age and even a sniff of cognitive decline piles on the negativity further. Negativity sells. Look at all those shock jocks. Stephen A Smith. Rage induced sports "debate" shows.

The mental hoops that one must jump through to convince themselves that the media, who helped cover for Biden’s condition and Hunter's guilt, was too negative towards Biden.

 

[MT15]

Fox is at it again. Specifically Maria Bartiromo, who was one of the main Fox hosts pushing the Dominion nonsense which got Fox sued. Now she is pushing that old “great replacement theory” nonsense on both Twitter and Fox. With zero truth to any of it.

Maria Bartiromo's wild and "kind of racist" election conspiracy theory collapses immediately

Maria Bartiromo repeatedly used her Fox Business show to peddle an election fraud conspiracy theory that she claimed originated with the wife of a friend of a friend in Texas and that she made no apparent effort to confirm. But when the Texas Department of Public Safety and the local Republican...

www.mediamatters.org

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Fox is at it again. Specifically Maria Bartiromo, who was one of the main Fox hosts pushing the Dominion nonsense which got Fox sued. Now she is pushing that old “great replacement theory” nonsense on both Twitter and Fox. With zero truth to any of it.

Maria Bartiromo's wild and "kind of racist" election conspiracy theory collapses immediately

Maria Bartiromo repeatedly used her Fox Business show to peddle an election fraud conspiracy theory that she claimed originated with the wife of a friend of a friend in Texas and that she made no apparent effort to confirm. But when the Texas Department of Public Safety and the local Republican...

www.mediamatters.org

As long as they stick to their guns and don't offer a correction, all is fine...

 

[MT15]

As long as they stick to their guns and don't offer a correction, all is fine...

I don’t think we have to worry about Fox correcting anything. Why start to care about the truth now?

 

[UriUT]

The mental hoops that one must jump through to convince themselves that the media, who helped cover for Biden’s condition and Hunter's guilt, was too negative towards Biden.

So I've gotta get this right. You haven't done a thorough history and pe and you come to this conclusion? You haven't asked his family or those who worked closely to determine his cognitive changes, and you feel bold enough to come to a diagnosis? You didn't screen him with something like a mini cog if yhere are indications? You didn't consult a neurologist and feel confident to diagnose something like dementia? You haven't considered differentials like changes in meds, travel exhaustion, depression, sleep deprivation, stress so on and so on for that one episode like that debate? You don't know his baseline. You think all those misspeak is any indication? Yeah...OK Jan. Bold move cotton.

And you are still going on about hunter biden? Wow.....

 

[LA - L.A.]

So I've gotta get this right. You haven't done a thorough history and pe and you come to this conclusion? You haven't asked his family or those who worked closely to determine his cognitive changes, and you feel bold enough to come to a diagnosis? You didn't screen him with something like a mini cog if yhere are indications? You didn't consult a neurologist and feel confident to diagnose something like dementia? You haven't considered differentials like changes in meds, travel exhaustion, depression, sleep deprivation, stress so on and so on for that one episode like that debate? You don't know his baseline. You think all those misspeak is any indication? Yeah...OK Jan. Bold move cotton.

And you are still going on about hunter biden? Wow.....

You left out the most common differential which is urinary tract infection (UTI). I can always tell when my dad has gotten one, because he starts getting disoriented to time, mumbling, paranoid, belligerent and occasionally hallucinatory. After a day or two on an effective antibiotic, he clears right up.

 

[UriUT]

You left out the most common differential which is urinary tract infection (UTI). I can always tell when my dad has gotten one, because he starts getting disoriented to time, mumbling, paranoid, belligerent and occasionally hallucinatory. After a day or two on an effective antibiotic, he clears right up.

Ha! Fair point. You know what? Good point. He didn't even do any workup to exclude other possibilities. And didn't Biden get covid around that time? Maybe I'm wrong...yeah, viral infection....or dehydration. Who knows. I wouldn't know.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The Democratic convention presents Fox News Channel with a delicate challenge: how to cover a party suddenly enthused about its election chances when much of the network’s audience has a different political viewpoint.

During the Democrats’ first two days, Fox personalities called the proceedings “boring” and filled with “a lot of hate.” There was a focus on demonstrations outside the arena while many of the speakers inside went unheard on the air.

Presidential nominee Kamala Harris was given nicknames like “the princess” and “comrade Kamala.”

“We’re at the DNC,” Sean Hannity quipped, “so you don’t have to be.”

Fox’s telecast illustrated the challenges inherent in covering news events on networks that are filled with both breaking news and partisan political talk, sometimes mashed up — where opinion personalities like Hannity, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow and CNN’s Van Jones freely mix with reporters and blur boundaries.

During the GOP convention last month, the liberal-leaning MSNBC cut off Nikki Haley in favor of a discussion about how she debased herself, and ignored Ron DeSantis entirely.

The feel-good Republican gathering gave Fox News the biggest convention audience ever for a cable network, a feat at a time when millions of Americans are pulling the plug on subscriptions, and a staggering audience of 10.4 million people for the opening moments of former President Donald Trump’s acceptance speech, the Nielsen company said.

No one expects such numbers this week for Fox, where roughly two-thirds of the audience in a 2024 Nielsen/MRI study called themselves Republican. Fox’s audience has shown a marked tendency to tune away from news that doesn’t reflect its beliefs, such as the Jan. 6 committee hearings.

Fox had 2.5 million viewers for Monday’s DNC coverage, 1.7 million on Tuesday — the latter sixth among networks covering it. Fox was the most-watched network for both of the first two nights of the GOP session a month ago, with 6.9 million on opening night and 5.4 million on the second night.

Not mincing words

Hosts on “The Five,” Fox’s most-watched show, were nothing if not direct in setting the stage for the Democrats’week. “You can’t believe anything the Democrats tell you,” Jesse Watters said. “Everything is a lie. ... There is no joy here. The only joy is that Joe’s gone.”……..

Your audience is filled with Republicans. The Democratic convention is underway. How to cover it?

The Democratic convention presents Fox News Channel with a delicate challenge — how to cover a party suddenly enthused about its election chances when much of its audience has a different political view.

apnews.com

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Faux News living up to their name. These are not serious people.