Israel vs Hamas (2 Viewers)

[GrandAdmiral]

Looks like the fight is on with Israeli soldiers and civilians amongst the dead already. Question becomes, how long before we get dragged into this?

Netanyahu says Israel is ‘at war’ after Hamas launches surprise attack, takes hostages | CNN

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared that the country was “at war” on Saturday, after Palestinian militants in Gaza fired a deadly barrage of rockets and sent gunmen into Israeli territory in a major escalation of the long running conflict between the two sides.

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[SaintForLife]

 

[SaintForLife]

I'm not disputing or challenging that 11 of their colleagues were killed. I'm not sure they would go that far. But I do question their objectivity when reporting other happenings in Gaza.

Do you ever question the objectivity of reporting here in the US?

 

[DaveXA]

Do you ever question the objectivity of reporting here in the US?

Pretty regularly actually. I was skeptical about the whole widely reported beheaded babies thing. I'm skeptical of other things more often than you might think.

 

[DaveXA]

That's odd considering Hamas already controls much of Gaza, including their government.

 

[SaintForLife]

Pretty regularly actually. I was skeptical about the whole widely reported beheaded babies thing. I'm skeptical of other things more often than you might think.

That was originally reported by Isreal.

 

[SaintForLife]

That's odd considering Hamas already controls much of Gaza, including their government.

That was from 2007.

 

[DaveXA]

That was originally reported by Isreal.

Correct, and the media ran with it.

 

[DaveXA]

That was from 2007.

Then why did you post it?

 

[MT15]

Israel is going to lose any credibility they may have had by their actions from what I am reading today. If we can believe what we read. So much disinformation. I just hope that the US is able to prevail on Israel and other nearby nations to rein this all in.

 

[DaveXA]

Israel is going to lose any credibility they may have had by their actions from what I am reading today. If we can believe what we read. So much disinformation. I just hope that the US is able to prevail on Israel and other nearby nations to rein this all in.

Well, at this point the IDF is saying it was a rocket that misfired from within Gaza. I'm not buying that yet tho.

 

[MT15]

Well, at this point the IDF is saying it was a rocket that misfired from within Gaza. I'm not buying that yet tho.

Who knows? I imagine both sides would lie about it.

 

[DaveXA]

Who knows? I imagine both sides would lie about it.

Oh no doubt.

 

[zztop]

edit: I didn't realize this until after I posted this twitter link, but there is a video in the comments... it is very graphic. It automatically started to play, so be warned. Very difficult to watch

 

[DaveXA]

Fwiw, I'm not saying I agree with the IDF's assessment, but, rocket misfires happen all the time. Could bo possible. But a typical Hamas rocket isn't gonna kill 200, 300 or 500, whatever that number was. Maybe the rocket hit other ammo or fuel that caused a larger explosion.

 

[samiam5211]

It almost doesn't matter who did it.

That hospital attack has killed any shot at getting any of the neighboring countries like Jordan on our side.

There are protests starting up in most of the countries in the region, no leader is going to be able to do anything that makes it look like they are siding with Israel.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

This is a bad, bad idea in my opinion, especially with this recent hit on that hospital. If it turns out the IDF did indeed hit it, intentionally or not...

 

[zztop]

I didn't realize this until after I posted that twitter link, but there is a video in the comments... it is very graphic. It automatically started to play, so be warned. Very difficult to watch.

 

[MT15]

This is a bad, bad idea in my opinion, especially with this recent hit on that hospital. If it turns out the IDF did indeed hit it, intentionally or not...

What I am seeing now is that a reporter from Al Jazeera saw a rocket misfire from Islamic Jihad, and tweeted about it right after it happened, and then the hospital was hit. The rocket was meant for Israel.

It almost doesn't matter who did it.

I see what you are saying. But truth should matter, it needs to matter.