How to improve American Education in 2021. (2 Viewers)

[Paul]

The most recent PISA results, from 2015, placed the U.S. an unimpressive 38th out of 71 countries in math and 24th in science. Among the 35 members of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, which sponsors the PISA initiative, the U.S. ranked 30th in math and 19th in science.

U.S. students’ academic achievement still lags that of their peers in many other countries

American students continue to rank around the middle of the pack, and behind many other advanced industrial nations, in international assessments of math, science and reading.

www.pewresearch.org

My suggestion is rather simple.

1. Study why immigrants from East Asia, India, and Nigeria do well with American education. Apply that insight to other groups (if possible).
2. Manage public schools as if though they were private schools with uniforms and discipline.
3. Create high end special schools for those that are truly disenfranchised.
4. Create a force of social workers to treat family dysfunction with regards to education.
5. Reduce the curriculum to the simple basics and repeat that on a yearly basis.
6. At about 10th grade divide college bound students away from non-college bound.
7. Provide solid basic education and trade training for non-college bound kids. There is no point in offering free college to these kids.

 

[samiam5211]

So this domestic terrorist read a passage out of a book that was in the library. The board had him removed because the the language in the book was not suitable for adults to hear but perfectly fine for the students to read.

Now, the Super did address it by saying she and board did not know that language was in the book and it would be addressed and she hoped removed.

Isn't that the problem? Who created the list of approved books? How is the school board, who is in charge and paid very very very well to be in charge of public education not know this book was in the library? This is planned indoctrination pure and simple. This is why the public education system in the country is such a mess and there is a mass exodus from it toward private and home schooling.

Aren't most school boards filled by elections?

And how much are they paid? I know in the parish where i grew up, they aren't paid very much at all.

 

[MT15]

**WARNING** 'crappy' sources ahead. These 'crappy' sources are actually doing the work the legacy journalist won't do due to ideology.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/excl...-virginia-student-who-said-she-was-gang-raped

The girl in the middle school case said she was afraid of having her real name attached because one of her alleged tormentors had threatened to kill her if she came forward. The law firm is seeking to have the lawsuit thrown out because it was filed under a pseudonym, even though there is no dispute that the school system knows who she is. A judge rejected Hunton’s argument, but it filed an appeal on behalf of its client, the Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS).

In a separate case, a girl alleged that after FCPS administrators were told of an unwanted sexual incident on a band trip, a school security officer told her there was no point in seeking criminal charges, and the school gave an award to her alleged abuser. Hunton told the court that the school system lost documentation showing its investigation of the allegations – which occurred in part because it was not using a sexual harassment allegation database that it had promised to use pursuant to a federal settlement in the other girl’s case. In both cases, a women’s rights group filed “amicus” briefs to express opposition to Hunton’s arguments.

More eggs for the Omelet I guess.

Farb, I’m so glad you are waking up to the way girls and women have been treated by men and the organizations that are run by men since time began. Welcome to the fold, comrade! I’m happy to find a new adherent for women’s rights!

Seriously, I wish this means you will believe women more often from now on, but I’m sure this has some sort of political spin that your crappy sources are willing to use to politicize the rape of another school girl.

They should have content for a long time, because it’s not an uncommon occurrence. If the accused is from a family with money or local influence, good luck getting anywhere at all.

Somehow, though, I doubt you are more inclined to believe women when they are accusing someone you like. In that case I’m sure you will side with the future Supreme Court Justice every time, and say mean things about the woman who was a young girl and experienced this very type of assault.

 

[MT15]

In Loudoun Co., which is one of the richest counties in the US, school board members make $1600 a month. That is probably way on the high end of school board pay nationally.

In other districts around the country, they get paid anywhere from $55-$605 per meeting. Not enough to deal with death threats from rabid parents.

School boards are almost always elected.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

So this domestic terrorist read a passage out of a book that was in the library. The board had him removed because the the language in the book was not suitable for adults to hear but perfectly fine for the students to read.

Now, the Super did address it by saying she and board did not know that language was in the book and it would be addressed and she hoped removed.

Isn't that the problem? Who created the list of approved books? How is the school board, who is in charge and paid very very very well to be in charge of public education not know this book was in the library? This is planned indoctrination pure and simple. This is why the public education system in the country is such a mess and there is a mass exodus from it toward private and home schooling.

I may have missed it, but did they say which school library it came from?

 

[Optimus Prime]

This also could have gone in the Republican Party thread

I’ve heard more about school boards this year than I ever have before
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MISSION, Kan. (AP) — School board races, once sleepy and localized, have become the new front in a culture war raging across the nation as resentments over COVID-19 restrictions and anti-racism curriculum reach a boiling point.

On Tuesday, voters weigh in on dozens of races that have been dominated by debates over masks, vaccines, race and history. The outcomes will decide not just districts’policies but also whether the education fight has staying power as part of the national discourse and becomes a rallying issue for Republicans in the 2022 midterms.

Conservatives have eagerly taken up the cause as they look to move past the coronavirus pandemic and to reframe the discussion on racial injustice in America as a rewriting of history.

The political tracking website Ballotpedia has identified 76 school districts in 22 states where candidates took a stance on race in education or critical race theory, which holds that racism is systemic in America’s institutions and which the National School Boards Association says is not taught in K-12 public schools.

1776 Action, a group inspired by former President Donald Trump’s now-disbanded 1776 Commission that played down America’s role in slavery, has been urging candidates to sign a pledge calling for the restoration of “honest, patriotic education.” At least 300 candidates and elected officials have done so, said Adam Waldeck, the group’s president.

“2021 is really going to sort of be seen as kind of a canary in the coal mine of what’s coming down the pike next year and into the future,” Waldeck said. “This will be the year that I think primarily parents stand up and say, ‘You know, we have a voice, too.’ And I think it’s going to be overwhelming.”………

Education fight a winning message in Va., but not everywhere

Several high-profile school board candidates who fought COVID-19 restrictions and anti-racism classes have lost their election bids.

apnews.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

There's a thread on the EE about this but this is probably a touch too political for it

Absolutely no reason for this
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A student taking a history quiz in a class at the high school took a screenshot of one of the questions on the quiz, which read:

A group of complete idiots is:

a KKK

b "All of Florida

c Fox News

d Texans

Local media outlet Good Day Sacramento reported the student's "family friend" then uploaded the photo to social media, where it was been and commented on hundreds of times.

Some social media commentators expressed their outrage at the test, with several describing the question as "inappropriate."

Barbara Cohan wrote on Facebook: "School should not be political! We have to stop making everything political."

Brigeetuh 4 America Flag Of United States tweeted: "He's very wrong if he's vocalizing his political beliefs while teaching US History to teenagers. The only thing about him that's amazing is that he thinks that's ok."

And Karen Julio questioned whether uproar would be amplified if left-wingers were the target of such a question, writing: "I wonder if the outrage would be much higher, went viral, and the teacher fired, if the answer options were; a) far-left activists, b) liberals, c) BLM, d) President Biden and his handlers."............

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[samiam5211]

There's a thread on the EE about this but this is probably a touch too political for it

Absolutely no reason for this
======================================================
A student taking a history quiz in a class at the high school took a screenshot of one of the questions on the quiz, which read:

A group of complete idiots is:

a KKK

b "All of Florida

c Fox News

d Texans

Local media outlet Good Day Sacramento reported the student's "family friend" then uploaded the photo to social media, where it was been and commented on hundreds of times.

Some social media commentators expressed their outrage at the test, with several describing the question as "inappropriate."

Barbara Cohan wrote on Facebook: "School should not be political! We have to stop making everything political."

Brigeetuh 4 America Flag Of United States tweeted: "He's very wrong if he's vocalizing his political beliefs while teaching US History to teenagers. The only thing about him that's amazing is that he thinks that's ok."

And Karen Julio questioned whether uproar would be amplified if left-wingers were the target of such a question, writing: "I wonder if the outrage would be much higher, went viral, and the teacher fired, if the answer options were; a) far-left activists, b) liberals, c) BLM, d) President Biden and his handlers."............

MSN

www.msn.com

The individual teacher should be fired.

This is like when an individual teacher has sex with a student. It is a problem with an individual teacher.

I doubt this is an officially sanctioned test question by the state or local board. I doubt school administrators knew about it either.

 

[Optimus Prime]

And the flip side
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Sarah Silikula’s son got into the car after school one day last month, upset and confused by what his teacher had just taught him.

Armed with new knowledge, the eighth-grader had an announcement and a revisionist history lesson for his mother.
“I’m never getting vaccinated. I’m never getting any more shots of any kind. Did you know Trump’s still president?” Silikula remembered him saying.


The boy’s middle school history teacher unleashed a rant during an Oct. 18 class at Anacapa Middle School in Ventura, Calif., KCAL first reported.

She raved against coronavirus vaccines, the criminal justice system and the 2020 presidential election results. Silikula’s son used his phone to record a seven-minute video of his teacher’s diatribe, which he gave to his mother.

Silikula shared the recording with Ventura Unified School District administrators, and officials there told The Washington Post that they investigated the incident and removed the teacher from the middle school but kept her on as a district employee……..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/09/california-middle-school-teacher-political-rant/

 

[brandon]

In Loudoun Co., which is one of the richest counties in the US, school board members make $1600 a month. That is probably way on the high end of school board pay nationally.

In other districts around the country, they get paid anywhere from $55-$605 per meeting. Not enough to deal with death threats from rabid parents.

School boards are almost always elected.

Our board is paid around $2k per year, so $166 a month...and yes, it's taxed.

 

[Optimus Prime]

To get this thread back on track I think that students should take a financial literacy class - if not all 4 years of high school

Learning about how the stock market and investing works.

Interest and Credit cards

How much it costs you to just pay the minimum monthly payment on a credit card (and how long you'll be paying)

What paying just $10 more a month does to the above example

What a lower interest rate does to the above example?

How credit scores and credit bureaus work

Savings, retirement, 401K etc.

I think it should be required not an elective

I believe a lot fewer bad decisions would be made if young people were better educated on this when they graduate high school

 

[insidejob]

This surely will improve education.

 

[Farb]

This surely will improve education.

Are we sure those are not part of McAulliffe staffers again?

 

[Farb]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/pari...rents-to-take-their-kids-out-of-public-school

"A church in Virginia will pay parishioners $2,000 to move their child from public school to any Catholic school, with the pastor saying “I think right now the schooling of our children is the issue. We’ll lose them to the culture of death if we don’t.”

The effort by Saint Raymond of Penafort Church in Springfield is made possible for what it calls the Our Lady of Ransom Fund, recalling how in the year 1218, Saint Raymond founded a religious order that organized the ransom of Christians kidnapped by Moorish raiders, the Arlington Catholic Herald reported.

Father John C. De Celles, the church’s pastor, “sees the fund as a way to ransom his school-age parishioners from the prevailing secular culture at public schools,” the Herald wrote.

The parish has raised $140,000 for the fund this year, which has gone to 113 students. The diocese also has its own Catholic school tuition assistance program."

This is how you improve the education system. Destroy it by the roots and rebuild or don't rebuild it. Either way will be better than what we have now.

 

[samiam5211]

Are we sure those are not part of McAulliffe staffers again?

Are you really asking or just hiding behind the incompetence of the democratic political machine?

 

[bird]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/pari...rents-to-take-their-kids-out-of-public-school

"A church in Virginia will pay parishioners $2,000 to move their child from public school to any Catholic school, with the pastor saying “I think right now the schooling of our children is the issue. We’ll lose them to the culture of death if we don’t.”

The effort by Saint Raymond of Penafort Church in Springfield is made possible for what it calls the Our Lady of Ransom Fund, recalling how in the year 1218, Saint Raymond founded a religious order that organized the ransom of Christians kidnapped by Moorish raiders, the Arlington Catholic Herald reported.

Father John C. De Celles, the church’s pastor, “sees the fund as a way to ransom his school-age parishioners from the prevailing secular culture at public schools,” the Herald wrote.

The parish has raised $140,000 for the fund this year, which has gone to 113 students. The diocese also has its own Catholic school tuition assistance program."

This is how you improve the education system. Destroy it by the roots and rebuild or don't rebuild it. Either way will be better than what we have now.

Culture of death? What an interesting comment. Interest but stupid. Does culture of death include pedophile or abusive priests? The Roman Church gain regain any claim to alleged moral righteousness and indignation the minute they turn every priest, bishop, archbishop and cardinal accused of abuse or who engaged in covering it up to the secular authorities to investigate as the crimes they are.

Now, as for schools? Ripping them up? What a wonderful idea! As wonderful as Lenin or Mao or Pol Pot or Franco or Pinochet or any other delusional demagogue. Like every thing else in this country the attempt to devolve to the non-existent market is disasterous. Children are not raw materials. Parents are not consumers. There is far more to the education situation than simplistic ”solutions”.

 

[MT15]

There are few things more responsible for America’s dominant economy than our free public education. The idea that we need to tear it down and not replace is great news for America’s enemies. Who needs enemies, with citizens like these?

 

[insidejob]

Are you really asking or just hiding behind the incompetence of the democratic political machine?

He's doing what e always does. Ignore and deflect when his people act like morons. The Proud Boys have been showing up at school board meetings in rural CA too. Their being there legitimizes in the minds of Trumpists this BS notion that CRT is being force fed to kids nationwide because "why would they be there if it wasn't to keep those liberal board members in check"?

 

[MT15]

The thing is, school boards are so very local. People know their school board members. They are part of the community. I would hope most people who are not raving radicals would reject the notion that their school boards are pushing some sort of socialist or Marxist agenda.

If you find yourself wearing a bulletproof vest as an observer to a school board meeting, you just might be a raving radical. If you find yourself leaving threatening phone calls to a school board or school administrator or teacher, you just might be a raving radical. Channeling Foxworthy, lol.

We need to inject some sanity into the national conversation. The right wing media is doing everything it can to inject lunacy. It’s like the Red Scare of the 1950s on steroids.