Harry Reid is dead

[el caliente]

He lived.

 

[zztop]

I honestly don't remember much about him

 

[Port City JJ]

I honestly don't remember much about him

He was the senate majority leader while Obama was president. He was very much a centrist and not hardly the hardcore liberal that talk radio figureheads liked to paint him to be. I wasn't a fan (I don't really like any prominent democrats) as he seemed to campaign as a progressive, but legislatively he supported industry and big corporations.

But he helped get the ACA passed so he's considered a Liberal Champion.

 

[el caliente]

He was the senate majority leader while Obama was president. He was very much a centrist and not hardly the hardcore liberal that talk radio figureheads liked to paint him to be. I wasn't a fan (I don't really like any prominent democrats) as he seemed to campaign as a progressive, but legislatively he supported industry and big corporations.

But he helped get the ACA passed so he's considered a Liberal Champion.

Indeed, he was a champion to some, but far from sainthood. He was the first person (that I can recall) to call a President a liar (even though he himself was also a liar), and he said Mitt Romney didn’t pay his taxes (a tactic that was unheard of at the time). A lot of the political theater we have in DC today is attributed to him.

 

[Saintman2884]

Indeed, he was a champion to some, but far from sainthood. He was the first person (that I can recall) to call a President a liar (even though he himself was also a liar), and he said Mitt Romney didn’t pay his taxes (a tactic that was unheard of at the time). A lot of the political theater we have in DC today is attributed to him.

He even admitted in 2014 that his claims against Romney accusing him of not paying his taxes and always railing against how rich he was and how that was bad, that he knew his accusations were bullshirt but he did it to polarize public opinion against Romney so he wouldn't get elected President. Reid was a middle-class version of Mitch McConnell, he was capable of enacting dirty, lowball sensationalist political theatrics, but wasnt as nasty, and venomous as McConnell could be essentially holding up Garland's SCOTUS nomination process after Scalia's death so Obama and future liberal Democratic president couldn't push through reforms or decisions conservatives didnt like. But he was a bit of unabashed, shameless showman who was as much a hypocrite as those he pointed the finger towards and some of his antics really pushed people who were then on the fringes of Republican party to start playing even vicious versions of hardball nastier than anything he could ever imagined.

 

[Semper]

Was never a fan.

 

[J-DONK]

He even admitted in 2014 that his claims against Romney accusing him of not paying his taxes and always railing against how rich he was and how that was bad, that he knew his accusations were bullshirt but he did it to polarize public opinion against Romney so he wouldn't get elected President. Reid was a middle-class version of Mitch McConnell, he was capable of enacting dirty, lowball sensationalist political theatrics, but wasnt as nasty, and venomous as McConnell could be essentially holding up Garland's SCOTUS nomination process after Scalia's death so Obama and future liberal Democratic president couldn't push through reforms or decisions conservatives didnt like. But he was a bit of unabashed, shameless showman who was as much a hypocrite as those he pointed the finger towards and some of his antics really pushed people who were then on the fringes of Republican party to start playing even vicious versions of hardball nastier than anything he could ever imagined.

Man if lying about Romney not paying taxes to shine a light on how little he paid in taxes makes you a bad guy. Where do I sign up?

 

[Saintman2884]

Man if lying about Romney not paying taxes to shine a light on how little he paid in taxes makes you a bad guy. Where do I sign up?

IMO, Reid was no better than McConnell in intentionally lying and misleading the public about how much in taxes Romney paid and making a big deal about his fortune compared to how McConnell deliberately blocked Merrick Garland's SCOTUS nomination process throughout 2016 so Pres. Obama wouldn't get another liberal SCOTUS pick on bench. Reid poked the angry, red bears in the GOP and said "Top Me, if you're pissed off enough about it". And they did, quite vindictively. This country wouldve been in a far better state had Mitt Romney, instead of Donald J. Trump, was the face of the Republican Party and a Romney win in 2012 means no Trump in 2016 and no splitting of and the bitter division of the nation we currently have.

 

[el caliente]

Man if lying about Romney not paying taxes to shine a light on how little he paid in taxes makes you a bad guy. Where do I sign up?

His goal wasn’t to shine a light on how little in taxes Romney paid, it was give the impression that he didn’t pay taxes at all. If I say you don’t have any legs, I’m not trying to insinuate that you have bad legs, I’m saying you don’t have no legs Lt Dan.

He was counting on enough simple people to hear that, and think Romney didn’t pay taxes. How well that worked I’m not sure, I don’t think that was the biggest thing Romney had going against him, but it was a low blow move from a guy raised in a whore house.

 

[SFIDC3]

Man if lying about Romney not paying taxes to shine a light on how little he paid in taxes makes you a bad guy. Where do I sign up?

I don't give 2 farks about the Harry Reid types out there but anything to shine a light on the total BS that our current tax code is be fine with me....

 

[bird]

Indeed, he was a champion to some, but far from sainthood. He was the first person (that I can recall) to call a President a liar (even though he himself was also a liar), and he said Mitt Romney didn’t pay his taxes (a tactic that was unheard of at the time). A lot of the political theater we have in DC today is attributed to him.

Much more of the political rancor can be attributed to the a$$hat known as Newt Gingrich and the so-called Vulcans.

 

[J-DONK]

IMO, Reid was no better than McConnell in intentionally lying and misleading the public about how much in taxes Romney paid and making a big deal about his fortune compared to how McConnell deliberately blocked Merrick Garland's SCOTUS nomination process throughout 2016 so Pres. Obama wouldn't get another liberal SCOTUS pick on bench. Reid poked the angry, red bears in the GOP and said "Top Me, if you're pissed off enough about it". And they did, quite vindictively. This country wouldve been in a far better state had Mitt Romney, instead of Donald J. Trump, was the face of the Republican Party and a Romney win in 2012 means no Trump in 2016 and no splitting of and the bitter division of the nation we currently have.

If you think lying about someone's personal wealth, is equivalent to obstructing government. I don't know what tell you. You are clearly insane.

 

[J-DONK]

His goal wasn’t to shine a light on how little in taxes Romney paid, it was give the impression that he didn’t pay taxes at all. If I say you don’t have any legs, I’m not trying to insinuate that you have bad legs, I’m saying you don’t have no legs Lt Dan.

He was counting on enough simple people to hear that and think Romney didn’t pay taxes. How well that worked I’m not sure, I don’t think that was the biggest thing Romney had going against him, but it was a low blow move from a guy raised in a whore house.

Romney did use offshore tax havens, and every single legal trick he could to pay the least amount of taxes he legally could. What most of you don't seem to grasp, just because it's legal doesn't make it ethical. Reid lying about Romney's taxes was a "swiftboat". Do you need a history lesson on where that term originates?

 

[el caliente]

Romney did use offshore tax havens, and every single legal trick he could to pay the least amount of taxes he legally could. What most of you don't seem to grasp, just because it's legal doesn't make it ethical. Reid lying about Romney's taxes was a "swiftboat". Do you need a history lesson on where that term originates?

(Laughs in rich)

You poors are wild. JuSt BeCuZ iTs LeGaL dOnT mAkE iT eThIcAl.

I don’t need any history lessons today Denise Desuza. Maybe someone else could use the lesson, but not me.

 

[el caliente]

Much more of the political rancor can be attributed to the a$$hat known as Newt Gingrich and the so-called Vulcans.

There are steps to this, and that’s why I qualified the statement. Newt went wild with his lack of ethics when he became speaker of the house, and he dialed it up a notch when he ran for President.

 

[Saintman2884]

If you think lying about someone's personal wealth, is equivalent to obstructing government. I don't know what tell you. You are clearly insane.

If you think lying about someone's personal wealth, is equivalent to obstructing government. I don't know what tell you. You are clearly insane.

If its done for malicious intent, and its not necessarily true, and it was done in the context of deliberately sinking a man's presidential ambitions and open the stage up for someone else like Trump who's a dangerous, vile, untrustworthy,.authoritian political novice who went on to divide(and continues to) this nation in a way not seen since Nixon's Watergate, then doesn't make you a choir boy, either. Reid's lie wasnt some mostly meaningless, common-day lie, and even left-leaning newspapers/websites like Salon called him a gosh darned liar and prominently unethical and misguided in his approach.

It all had the unintended effect of poking the angry bears, who wanted some retaliation and payback after Romney got character assassinated through the MSM and Democratic politicians in 2012 and if you're only have cursory knowledge of how nasty they can be, tell them to piss off and see how they respond. McConnell got back at Team Blue by deliberately holding up a SCOTUS nomination for Garland so he could see Obama lose out on getting his pick seated until the 2016 Presidential elections were over, and then it became a moot point.

 

[J-DONK]

(Laughs in rich)

You poors are wild. JuSt BeCuZ iTs LeGaL dOnT mAkE iT eThIcAl.

I don’t need any history lessons today Denise Desuza. Maybe someone else could use the lesson, but not me.

Who is Denise Desuza?

 

[dtc]

His goal wasn’t to shine a light on how little in taxes Romney paid, it was give the impression that he didn’t pay taxes at all. If I say you don’t have any legs, I’m not trying to insinuate that you have bad legs, I’m saying you don’t have no legs Lt Dan.

He was counting on enough simple people to hear that and think Romney didn’t pay taxes. How well that worked I’m not sure, I don’t think that was the biggest thing Romney had going against him, but it was a low blow move from a guy raised in a whore house.

Did he have a choice as to where he was raised? I ask because you're talking about low blows in the same sentence in which you cast one of the lowest.

And, yes, they're both scum. Still, the fact that Romney and Trump and Musk and Bezos and the rest pay less in taxes as a percentage of their income than you and I is a preposterous travesty.