GOP chaos barrels toward federal shutdown (2 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

Yesterday Mike Johnson announced a CR for the House to pass - to continue funding through March (so the new Congress can take it up) and provide additional disaster relief. It also includes a raise for Congress.

Today Trump blasted the resolution and Elon threatened anyone who votes for it with being voted out of office. He also said the GOP shouldn’t vote on anything until Trump is in office - which means a shutdown of about a month.

Trump is already responsible for the longest shut down in history (35 days) - welcome back to Trump chaos.

Current funding expires at midnight on Friday (Saturday morning).

Mike Johnson Faces Growing GOP Backlash As Elon Musk Calls For Government Shutdown

Johnson's push for a short-term government funding bill met louder resistance than usual from Republicans in the House.

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[Sendai]

So a 1,547 page Continuing Resolution is now a 116 page Continuing Resolution. A Christmas miracle.

 

[coldseat]

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This is not how democracy works...

Democrats don't have to explain anything. Let the government shut down and oppose whatever Republicans put out. That's what they would do. Either Republicans deal in good faith or they don't. Very simple.

Don't go bailing out their chaos.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[superchuck500]

 

[coldseat]

The "Never Agree" caucus. Never get to "yes", just oppose everything and show how mad you can get while doing it.

 

[Neworleansfan]

Who are the two dumbass Dems?

 

[superchuck500]

lol - his spin/lie game is at least as strong as Trump’s

 

[coldseat]

lol - his spin/lie game is at least as strong as Trump’s

The gaslighting is going to be endless and enormous from Elon for as long as he last in Trump’s orbit. I don't think he'll last to long. He'll burn out like Bannon did in the first administration.

 

[Neworleansfan]

lol - his spin/lie game is at least as strong as Trump’s

Sad that 70 some millions believe in this junk.

 

[superchuck500]

The gaslighting is going to be endless and enormous from Elon for as long as he last in Trump’s orbit. I don't think he'll last to long. He'll burn out like Bannon did in the first administration.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

For anyone to believe that D's are responsible for a Bill's failure when the D's had ZERO input as to how the Bill was composed, they would have to have ZERO understanding how governing our constitutional republic is supposed to function. They have a desire to be governed by monarchy or a dictatorship rather than a democracy.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Congressional R's continue to fail at doing what they were elected to do, govern.

 

[superchuck500]

Congressional R's continue to fail at doing what they were elected to do, govern.

Historically ineffective. Right now the 118th Congress (GOP majority, McCarthy/Johnson) is sitting on 82 bills passed. This chart shows the end of 2023 and 2024 was an even less productive year. They're well below 1/3 of the historical average.

 

[superchuck500]

An interesting element of today's vote is that Johnson put it to vote under the "suspension of the rules" procedure - which allows a bill or resolution to go to vote on the House floor without true debate and without opportunity for amendment. The downside is that it requires 2/3 of the quorum vote to pass.

In other words, this measure never had a meaningful chance to pass. I'm guessing that Johnson hoped that the full or very near full GOP caucus would vote for it, leaving its failure on the Democrats - trying to shift the blame.

It was a blame-game gambit, and it failed when 38 Republicans voted against it, meaning that not only did it fail the 2/3 vote required, it substantially failed to even get a majority.

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[Texan1211]

Here's the problem with this - the continuing resolution to keep the government open until the new administration and new Congress can address it is not the place to dig in on changing "the path we're on"

That's one problem with DC, it seemingly is NEVER time to change and be fiscally responsible.

Perhaps the Johnson bill wasn't the best option - perhaps a pure clean CR to keep the status quo, and perhaps add some needed disaster funds, is a better choice to tee up the issue for the new administration and Congress.

Doesn't look like it. It had way too much stuff in it for a simple continuing resolution.
One thing I think we need is for Congress to write stand-alone bills instead of packing every damn bill with pork just to secure votes. Either it is a good bill or not, and then we won't have people waffling so much. Let Congress explain why they voted for or against something.

 

[J-DONK]

That's one problem with DC, it seemingly is NEVER time to change and be fiscally responsible.

Sometimes when I can't understand someone I too give vague non sequiturs.

Doesn't look like it. It had way too much stuff in it for a simple continuing resolution.
One thing I think we need is for Congress to write stand-alone bills instead of packing every damn bill with pork just to secure votes. Either it is a good bill or not, and then we won't have people waffling so much. Let Congress explain why they voted for or against something.

Isn't earmarked spending like .05% of the budget or something else ridiculously small? Why are you talking about this like it's an actual issue?

 

[Texan1211]

's at least.Isn't earmarked spending like .05 percent of the budget or something else ridiculously small? Why are you talking about this like it's an actual issue?

Because I want Congress to be more financially conservative. yes, I know it is a small amount but should be much smaller. It is far easier to ease into budget cutting by getting rid of unnecessary spending vs. trying to cut major programs. Me, I would cut that which is deemed unnecessary for the general public good and that effects fewer people. Let's start there. We haven't even started yet. At least it would be SOMETHING vs, the total lack of accountability we have seen since the 1980's at least. If it is always the wrong time, nothing will ever change.

 

[J-DONK]

Because I want Congress to be more financially conservative. yes, I know it is a small amount but should be much smaller. It is far easier to ease into budget cutting by getting rid of unnecessary spending vs. trying to cut major programs. Me, I would cut that which is deemed unnecessary for the general public good and that effects fewer people. Let's start there. We haven't even started yet. At least it would be SOMETHING vs, the total lack of accountability we have seen since the 1980's at least. If it is always the wrong time, nothing will ever change.

This isn't a real answer.

I have no idea how much pork barrell spending was in either bill, and neither do you.

Shutdown the government over potentially .05% of waste?

That wasn't your point. You have no idea what you are talking about, and got caught.