General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (2 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[Optimus Prime]

No matter what he say or does his base has ravenous and undying love for him
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Democrats have a dangerous tendency to underestimate Donald Trump, warned Wesley Clark, a retired senior US general and former candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination.

“I don’t think anybody who works for Trump has ever recommended him,” Clark said. “Not John Bolton, not John Kelly, the retired marines general who was [White House] chief of staff … not [retired marines general] Jim Mattis, who resigned as secretary of defense under Trump. I don’t think people who work for him have any respect for his ability.

“But here’s the thing about Trump. He works really hard. He’s very clever. He is charismatic. He can be very charming. And so Democratsand people who are on the outside have a tendency to underestimate him, because he has misspellings in his tweets and he’s very emotional and he doesn’t know anything about policies.


“But he does touch a chord in the American public.”………..

Democrats underestimate Trump, retired US general Wesley Clark warns

Former general cautioned ex-president ‘does touch a chord’, though those who have worked with him don’t like him

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

I’d expect there to be a big uptick after the assassination attempt
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Donald Trump’s Truth Social platform experienced a third straight month of audience decline in June, a leading analyst of rightwing media said, detecting signs of “trouble at the ballot box” for the Republican presidential nominee.

“The diminishing audience levels for Truth Social suggest a rejection of the harsh rhetoric expressed by the ex-president and his political allies that is one of the hallmarks of the two-year-old platform,” Howard Polskin said.

“If this softness persists, it might portend trouble for Mr Trump at the ballot box in November.”


Polskin is president of TheRighting, a site that seeks to “inform middle-of-the-road and liberal audiences about stories and viewpoints not on their radar that are shaping political opinion across a wide swath of America”……..

Trump’s Truth Social network records second-worst audience decline

User drop suggests ‘rejection of harsh rhetoric’ spewed by the former US president, rightwing media analyst says

www.theguardian.com

 

[bird]

We can all walk and chew gum at the same time.

Well, I sometimes have a problem with that.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Vice President Kamala Harris and her Democratic allies are emphasizing a new line of criticism against Republicans — branding Donald Trump and his running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance, as “weird.”

Democrats are applying the label with gusto in interviews and online, notably to Vance’s comments on abortion and his previous suggestion that political leaders who didn’t have biological children “don’t really have a direct stake” in the country.

The “weird” message appears to have given Democrats a narrative advantage that they rarely had when President Joe Biden was still running for reelection.

Trump’s campaign, which so often shapes political discussions with the former president’s pronouncements, has spent days trying to flip the script by highlighting things about Democrats it says are weird.

“I don’t know who came up with the message, but I salute them,” said David Karpf, a strategic communication professor at George Washington University.…….

Why Harris and Democrats keep calling Trump and Vance 'weird'

Vice President Kamala Harris and her Democratic allies are increasingly branding Donald Trump and his running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance, as “weird.”

apnews.com

 

[Taurus]

If the video is not flipped horizontally, then Trump grabbed the water bottle with his right hand and the cap with his left hand. I slowed it down to 1/3rd speed an it looks to me like he tries to twist the cap forward which would loosen it. It's possible he grabbed it, because it's the closest water bottle in his vision, so naturally he thinks "I see, it mine." His water bottle is on a table to the right of him out of his line of sight. It's possible he tried to open it, but couldn't. Trump is supposedly right handed. I'm right handed and reflexively hold with my left hand and twist with my right. So Trump doing the opposite is weird. Confused side dominance does happen for some suffering from dementia. Not saying, just saying.

Maybe one of us has dementia then? I'm a southpaw and I pick up screwtop bottles with my left hand, twist with my right and now I have the bottle in my dominant hand to drink with.
Of course it could also be that twisting counterclockwise with my left hand is just awkward and I've forgotten that's the reason.

 

[J-DONK]

With Biden being replaced by Harris, Trump and Vance are the "man bites dog" sensational story for the media. Trump will now be the primary negative hype target and I don't see that changing before the election. There's going to be breaking negative story after breaking negative story for Trump until well past Nov 5th. All Harris has to do is play a pressing ball control game that keeps Trump on his heels. She seems well suited for that and so much more.

Do you mean record employment or record low unemployment? The Fed met recently and indications are they will drop the rates in Sept. Americans would feel that in a very positive way if it happens and the timing would be perfect.

Record low unemployment obviously. I don't think you can talk about illegal immigration in this enviroment. It's pretty much anyone who wants a job, has a job. It's stuff like that viral 18 dollar big mac that people perceive as an issue.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Maybe one of us has dementia then? I'm a southpaw and I pick up screwtop bottles with my left hand, twist with my right and now I have the bottle in my dominant hand to drink with.
Of course it could also be that twisting counterclockwise with my left hand is just awkward and I've forgotten that's the reason.

Especially if you were taught "righty tighty" and "lefty loosey" instead of clockwise and counter clockwise.

I was just poking fun at similar absurd claims Trump supporters make about Biden. The dominance switching is something that happens for some with dementia, but of course it doesn't always mean dementia and there are other reasons for it, like learned behavior. Left's get messed with a lot by being taught by a right dominant world.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Record low unemployment obviously. I don't think you can talk about illegal immigration in this enviroment. It's pretty much anyone who wants a job, has a job. It's stuff like that viral 18 dollar big mac that people perceive as an issue.

That's what I thought. Just checking to make sure I hadn't missed a really bad jobs report.

 

[efil4]

I just finished watching the full NABJ interview with Trump, I want to point out that throughout the interview when Trump would say he was having a hard time hearing Fox News’ Harris Faulkner, she would say she was having trouble hearing him.

Hear the end of the interview Trump was asked if he would step down as president. Trump in his rambling response once again attacked the ABC reporter by saying, "look, if I came onto a stage like this and I got treated so rudely as this woman. treated me..." and Fox News’ Harris Faulkner blurted out "oh, my goodness" in response to Trump's attack. Fox News’ Harris Faulkner had no problems hearing Trump say that.

Just seemed odd to me after she kept agreeing with Trump that it was hard for them to hear each other.

it all began with the introduction.

From the moment he walked out on stage to CRICKETS, it threw him into a downward spiral- you can see it in his face/body language. He even stands and waits about 15 seconds then murmurs "Thank you" - like a robot. It was at that point that he realized he was not in a friendly environment and immediately looked to take control from the very first question by attacking Rachel Scott for her "nasty tone". Its all he knows to do in situations like that. His NPD went off the rails there from the outset.

Its why his team called it after 35 min.

When asked about how he would help Black Americans with inflation, he spent 4 min telling the audience how "inflation is bad...the worst its ever been...blah blah " and Harris finally cut him off to ask " but how" and his one-line reply " Bring back Energy" and then RIGHT back into Biden/Harris energy policy ( which btw he returning to 2020 tropes about their energy policy - none of which came to fruition- gas prices are falling, Oil prices are just fine at around $80/pbl )

That was it...that was how he was going to solve inflation.

But his fixation on Rachel Scott, who he deemed an "enemy" from the outset, was quite revealing to me. He knew EXACTLY who she was and who she worked for, and made it a point to immediately attempt to put her on defense. It didnt work. It backfired spectacularly. Because when he saw she wasnt taking the bait and attempting to go tit-for-tat, it made him even worse.

Which, for me, culminated with his "define DEI" to her. She did, and he was completely undone at that moment.

IT was absolute masterclass on handling someone like Trump.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I love how when faced with a stupid, offensive comment "childless cat ladies", "She just became black", etc. they could dismiss it, downplay it, disagree with it or even ignore it altogether

But they always choose to double down. Always

 

[faceman]

If the video is not flipped horizontally, then Trump grabbed the water bottle with his right hand and the cap with his left hand. I slowed it down to 1/3rd speed an it looks to me like he tries to twist the cap forward which would loosen it. It's possible he grabbed it, because it's the closest water bottle in his vision, so naturally he thinks "I see, it mine." His water bottle is on a table to the right of him out of his line of sight. It's possible he tried to open it, but couldn't. Trump is supposedly right handed. I'm right handed and reflexively hold with my left hand and twist with my right. So Trump doing the opposite is weird. Confused side dominance does happen for some suffering from dementia. Not saying, just saying.

I guess i'm a weird one. I'm right handed. I hold with my right hand and twist with the left. I treat bottles the same way as a glass.
I always drink with my right hand.

 

[fooferdoggie]

I love how when faced with a stupid comment "childless cat ladies", "She just became black" , they could dismiss it, downplay it, disagree with it or even ignore it altogether

But they always choose the double down. Always

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Isn't this the lawyer who lost Trump's case???

 

[efil4]

And now, Biden gets Gerskovich and Whelan home.

Remember this?




Wait til September when the Fed lowers the interest rate....that might unhinge Trump lol

 

[LA - L.A.]

I guess i'm a weird one. I'm right handed. I hold with my right hand and twist with the left. I treat bottles the same way as a glass.
I always drink with my right hand.

If one of us is doing it weird, the safe money is on me being the weird one.

 

[B4YOU]

I love how when faced with a stupid, offensive comment "childless cat ladies", "She just became black", etc. they could dismiss it, downplay it, disagree with it or even ignore it altogether

But they always choose to double down. Always

Racial purity mindset. These are dangerous beliefs.

 

[MT15]

Racial purity mindset. These are dangerous beliefs.

MAGA has even turned the Covid vaccine into racial purity somehow. People are putting “pure blood” in their profiles to signify never having the vax. They are also starting to put how many generations back they can trace their family in America in their profiles as well.

All sorts of warning flags.

 

[Optimus Prime]

They are also starting to put how many generations back they can trace their family in America in their profiles as well.

and never seem to wonder why not everyone can trace their family roots back to the 14th century

 

[SFIDC3]

During the interview he claimed Kamala Harris was supposed to be here at the same time. Wouldn’t that be a debate .

Man, it's too bad she wasn't there, it would have been glorious.....