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    SamAndreas

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    Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

    There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:


    She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

    She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

    This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



    To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

    I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

    Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.
     
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    DJ1BigTymer said:
    What entity governs the Electoral College?
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    The electoral college is a process. Electors are identified by the states. The states certify the electors. The vice president simply counts the state certified electoral votes, nothing more. The entity is the constitution and the constitution gives it to the states. Not the federal government.
     
    cuddlemonkey said:
    The total number of votes cast in LA County was higher than the total population of 20 states.
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    Question to those who said that both Trump and Harris were “equally bad”

    After less than 2 weeks do you still believe that?

    And if so what executive orders would Kamala Harris had to have signed for you to think it was “equally bad”?
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    Question to those who said that both Trump and Harris were “equally bad”

    After less than 2 weeks do you still believe that?

    And if so what executive orders would Kamala Harris had to have signed for you to think it was “equally bad”?
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    Who said they were “equally bad”?
     
    t_rav_82 said:
    Your actions said that. Maybe not your mouth, or in this case hands.
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    Ahhhh My actions. You don’t know my actions. All you know is what I post. And I never posted they were “equally bad”. Those were Optimus’s words, not mine.

    It’s really a simple concept. The fact that I believe and have stated that neither Harris or Trump is fit to hold the office of President does not mean they are equal. It just means I don’t believe they are fit for the job. Had the Democrats gone out and recruited the best most qualified candidate in their party, this might be a different conversation. But they didn’t do that. So it forced people to choose between two flawed candidates. You just don’t like how it worked out.
     
    MT15 said:
    You did. Explicitly - you said you were just as worried about what Harris would do as president as you were about Trump. That is an equivalence.
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    That in no way means they are equal. It just means neither one is fit for office. I never said they were equal. You misrepresent my post. Is that honest? Are you an honest poster? I’m starting to wonder.
     
    TampaJoe said:
    That in no way means they are equal. It just means neither one is fit for office. I never said they were equal. You misrepresent my post. Is that honest? Are you an honest poster? I’m starting to wonder.
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    You said it - I am but reporting your words. There’s absolutely nothing dishonest about reporting your words and showing you the meaning of them.

    If you are “just as” worried about one candidate over another - the actual meaning of that is that you hold them as equivalently worth your concern. It’s not logical to worry the same about two candidates if you don’t think they are equally bad.

    Why don’t you try to be honest yourself?
     
    MT15 said:
    You said it - I am but reporting your words. There’s absolutely nothing dishonest about reporting your words and showing you the meaning of them.

    If you are “just as” worried about one candidate over another - the actual meaning of that is that you hold them as equivalently worth your concern. It’s not logical to worry the same about two candidates if you don’t think they are equally bad.

    Why don’t you try to be honest yourself?
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    It’s possible that one could be a saint and the other could be the antichrist. But if neither one is fit for the position they seek, I will worry about both. That holds true when it comes to POTUS or a heart surgeon. Tell me if they both were seeking to perform cardiac surgery on you, wouldn’t you be concerned about both of them? They aren’t fit for that job either.

    It’s an important job being the leader of the free world. They aren’t running for student government president.

    And yeah, if I tell you repeatedly that is not what I’m saying and you keep repeating it as if it was my intent, it’s dishonest. To say the least.
     
    TampaJoe said:
    It’s possible that one could be a saint and the other could be the antichrist. But if neither one is fit for the position they seek, I will worry about both. That holds true when it comes to POTUS or a heart surgeon. Tell me if they both were seeking to perform cardiac surgery on you, wouldn’t you be concerned about both of them? They aren’t fit for that job either.

    It’s an important job being the leader of the free world. They aren’t running for student government president.

    And yeah, if I tell you repeatedly that is not what I’m saying and you keep repeating it as if it was my intent, it’s dishonest. To say the least.
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    Your words have repeatedly treated them as equally bad. Yet, you do not have the courage of your convictions, and refuse to admit you view them as equally bad. Why do you suppose that is?

    I keep saying it because that is how you are presenting yourself. I will drop it, because it’s not worth the back and forth. But there is nothing dishonest about repeating your own words, where you say they are equally unqualified.
     
    TampaJoe said:
    It’s possible that one could be a saint and the other could be the antichrist. But if neither one is fit for the position they seek, I will worry about both. That holds true when it comes to POTUS or a heart surgeon. Tell me if they both were seeking to perform cardiac surgery on you, wouldn’t you be concerned about both of them? They aren’t fit for that job either.

    It’s an important job being the leader of the free world. They aren’t running for student government president.

    And yeah, if I tell you repeatedly that is not what I’m saying and you keep repeating it as if it was my intent, it’s dishonest. To say the least.
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    The dishonest part is to say they are both unqualifed. The fantasyland pretend stuff is all going away dude. This is already aging like milk. You really don't understand what's going on.

    This is going to wreck the economy.

    www.yahoo.com

    Canada and Mexico face 25% tariffs on Saturday, Trump says

    The president also suggested he still plans to impose new tariffs on China but did not give any details.
    www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
     
    TampaJoe said:
    That in no way means they are equal. It just means neither one is fit for office. I never said they were equal. You misrepresent my post. Is that honest? Are you an honest poster? I’m starting to wonder.
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    Is it your position that Trump and Harris are both unfit to be POTUS, but one of them is more unfit than the other?
     

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