General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (9 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[coldseat]

All I am saying is it is terrible timing. It will distract and if you don’t think it will you have your head in the sand.
They were about to own the momentum this week but now Penning had a holding call on a first down pass so instead of it being first and 10 it’s 3rd down and 20. Not that it can’t blow over but it still makes things tougher.

You're making to much of this. Biden isn't running for President. I was watching Abby Phillip on CNN and they spent 2 minutes taking about it and moved on to other topics.

 

[not2rich]

It’s maddening that only one side is held to any kind of standard.

 

[MT15]

It’s maddening that only one side is held to any kind of standard.

So much this - any voter who would let a jumbled poorly worded comment from Joe Biden convince them that they should just go ahead and vote for the felon was going to vote for the felon anyway. If they say otherwise they’re not being truthful.

 

[Lapaz]

Joe saying he meant the rhetoric was garbage - he got a little tongue-tied. So Joe recognizes it and cleans it up, meanwhile Trump hasn’t apologized at all, only disavowed any responsibility for anything that happened at his own freaking rally.

Joe screwed up. He said the only garbage are his supporters. That clean-up is unconvincing. Harris will have to denounce it immediately. She wlll need to make it clear that she doesn’t believe his supporters are garbage. That is the only way to neutralize it. Trump hasn’t denounced the statement made by the comedian, and that’s what has hurt him. If Harris makes the same mistake, it will eliminate the great speech she just gave.

 

[not2rich]

So much this - any voter who would let a jumbled poorly worded comment from Joe Biden convince them that they should just go ahead and vote for the felon was going to vote for the felon anyway. If they say otherwise they’re not being truthful.

It’s all really just bad faith and dishonesty. Trump can be a drooling idiot 24/7 and Harris can be brilliant 95% of the time. But if she’s imperfect 5% of the time, that’s what everyone wants to focus on. Such an outrageous double standard - there definitely is a “DEI” candidate but it ain’t Harris.

 

[Lapaz]

You're making to much of this. Biden isn't running for President. I was watching Abby Phillip on CNN and they spent 2 minutes taking about it and moved on to other topics.

It is going to dominate the discussion tomorrow. I anticipate Republicans are going to run ads on it. It is a huge distraction that Harris should not ignore. Biden should apologize and admit he misspoke, and Harris should as well.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Harris will have to denounce it immediately.

She don't have to do shirt! Joe already cleaned up his mess, no need for Harris to give it any more life. Turn the page on that gaff.

 

[MT15]

Joe screwed up. He said the only garbage are his supporters. That clean-up is unconvincing. Harris will have to denounce it immediately. She wlll need to make it clear that she doesn’t believe his supporters are garbage. That is the only way to neutralize it. Trump hasn’t denounced the statement made by the comedian, and that’s what has hurt him. If Harris makes the same mistake, it will eliminate the great speech she just gave.

BS. Biden cleaned it up. It has nothing to do with Harris. She has made it clear that she will work with everyone from the beginning.

For crap’s sake - Trump put out a speaker at his rally that called Harris the “anti-Christ” while brandishing a crucifix. I haven’t seen a single reporter focus on that - or demand Trump apologize for it. Hell, he says pretty much the same crap about her - that she’s evil and that democrats are loony and want to destroy America. Where’s the focus on that?

This double standard makes my blood boil.

 

[Lapaz]

She don't have to do shirt! Joe already cleaned up his mess, no need for Harris to give it any more life. Turn the page on that gaff.

You’re right that she doesn’t have to, but it would be stupid if she doesn’t distance herself from that comment. It was stupid for Trump not to apologize. His campaign spokespeople separated themselves, but not Trump. Likewise, Harris has to separate herself.

 

[not2rich]

BS. Biden cleaned it up. It has nothing to do with Harris. She has made it clear that she will work with everyone from the beginning.

For crap’s sake - Trump put out a speaker at his rally that called Harris the “anti-Christ” while brandishing a crucifix.

If the Onion had done a Nazi rally parody it wouldn’t have matched what actually happened.

 

[Incumbent]

I agree, but still, Joe doesn't need to give them something else to potentially report on. It's basically not needed. They're in great shape to win the election. No need to get dirty when you don't have to.

When you've got a solid lead, play your game, not the opponent's.

We’re even having this discussion because so much has gone into treating the MAGA cult with far more legitimacy than they ever deserved.

It’s always been the case with Joe that he occasionally phrases remarks in unfortunate ways. Fine, he should have taken more care.

He’s still not wrong about this and I’m very tired of the misplaced indignation at this point.

It’s a problem with our society that so many people lurch from one moment to the next rather than maintaining a focus on the totality of events. Joe has proven himself a vastly better person than Trump and those who would follow Trump into the depths of Hell. This all reminds me too much of the pearl clutching about Kamala calling Trump a fascist when, 1) he is and 2) he’s called her that and more repeatedly.

 

[J-DONK]

There is a massive over reaction on this board to the Biden statement. This is not a basket of deplorables moment, chill out.

 

[Lapaz]

BS. Biden cleaned it up. It has nothing to do with Harris. She has made it clear that she will work with everyone from the beginning.

For crap’s sake - Trump put out a speaker at his rally that called Harris the “anti-Christ” while brandishing a crucifix.

Trump’s rally was horrible, and Harris’ was great, but Biden’s comment was also horrible, even if I believe it is true. You shouldn’t alienate half of Americans when you’re trying to win over some undecideds. Biden’s clean-up is inadequate. If Harris wants to neutralize her boss’ comments, she needs to be clear that she disagrees.

 

[not2rich]

You’re right that she doesn’t have to, but it would be stupid if she doesn’t distance herself from that comment. It was stupid for Trump not to apologize. His campaign spokespeople separated themselves, but not Trump. Likewise, Harris has to separate herself.

Honestly, at this point, who gives a shirt about offending people who were never voting for Kamala?

 

[MT15]

Trump’s rally was horrible, and Harris’ was great, but Biden’s comment was also horrible, even if I believe it is true. You shouldn’t alienate half of Americans when you’re trying to win over some undecideds. Biden’s clean-up is inadequate. If Harris wants to neutralize her boss’ comments, she needs to be clear that she disagrees.

BOTH SIDES!!!!!

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Awww come on, Joe. Why?

Biden suggests Trump supporters are 'garbage' after comic's insult of Puerto Rico

President Joe Biden is reacting to a comic calling Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage” at a Donald Trump rally last weekend by saying, “The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters.”

apnews.com

Trump has called Democrats "the enemy within" for weeks now. His supporters are garbage. I'm not gonna lose any sleep when they are confronted with that fact.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

You’re right that she doesn’t have to, but it would be stupid if she doesn’t distance herself from that comment. It was stupid for Trump not to apologize. His campaign spokespeople separated themselves, but not Trump. Likewise, Harris has to separate herself.

It would be stupid to even address it! Biden cleaned up his mess, why would Harris give it more life by even acknowledging it? If she's asked about it, the best thing is for her to say is "We are going forward. We've turned the page and we're not going back!"

She has prominent Republicans on the trail with her, no need to placate the radical extremist of trump that celebrate calling her a whore and a name that rhymes with shunt.

 

[Lapaz]

Honestly, at this point, who gives a shirt about offending people who were never voting for Kamala?

That comment may turnoff some undecideds that were appalled by the Puerto Rico comment. If she doesn’t apologize, she will lose the advantage she gained by that insult of Puerto Ricans. The comment is worse coming from the president than from a comedian.