General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (4 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

I just watched this Alex Wagner spot on black Trump supporter in PA and all I can say that they were the most ill-informed, ignant (that's right...ignant!) group of people.

Reading the comments below this segment that are just as hard on Wagner for not attempting to correct those clowns, but that not her job! She there to get their thoughts, not change them, its up to the opposition to educate and inform these people...Good Luck with that!

Here's better clip of their idiocy:

 

[J-DONK]

Veteran pollster Nate Silver said his “gut” right now is that former President Trump will win the election in less than two weeks, but he cautioned against putting faith in anyone’s gut feeling.

Silver wrote in a guest essay published Wednesday by The New York Times that calling the race a 50-50 toss-up is the “only responsible forecast,” with polls showing the race as razor-tight in all seven key battleground states that are likely to determine the outcome. But, the 538 founder added, if people press him to give an answer on who is favored, he will say Trump.

“My gut says Donald Trump. And my guess is that it is true for many anxious Democrats,” Silver said. “But I don’t think you should put any value whatsoever on anyone’s gut — including mine.”

“Instead, you should resign yourself to the fact that a 50-50 forecast really does mean 50-50,” he continued. “And you should be open to the possibility that those forecasts are wrong, and that could be the case equally in the direction of Mr. Trump or Ms. Harris.”..........

Nate Silver: ‘My gut says’ Trump will win

Veteran pollster Nate Silver said his “gut” right now is that former President Trump will win the election in less than two weeks, but he cautioned against putting faith in anyone’s gut feeling.&nb…

thehill.com

There is something "off". Trump has a massive net negative favorabilty rating. Polling shows that Harris is favored amongst the group deciding late in the race.

Every other indicator other then these polls indicate Trump is about to get BTFO.

My personal prediction he loses it all except maybe Florida, and Georgia. Texas will be tighter then imagined.

 

[MT15]

Silver is off. He’s not an honest broker any longer. That’s my take anyway.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Here's better clip of their idiocy:

yes, trump going up against Putin? it's like a dog sucking up to his master after a beatdown. Trump is in such debt to Putin.

 

[MT15]

New story just dropped about a young woman who was groped by Trump in 1993 in the presence of Epstein. Epstein brought her to Trump’s place, and Trump immediately started groping her. She has a postcard Trump sent to her later inviting her to come back any time she wanted. Epstein dropped her after that and she never saw Trump again. She decided in 2016 not to come forward to avoid the negative attention. Not sure why she decided to come forward now.

If this is the big story, it won’t move the needle at all, I’m afraid. Everybody already knows he does this stuff. He described it himself in 2016 as his “go-to” move. It should be disqualifying but MAGA doesn’t care.

 

[MT15]

Story, fwiw

Donald Trump groped me in what felt like a ‘twisted game’ with Jeffrey Epstein, former model alleges

Stacey Williams says the ex-president, whose spokesperson denied the allegations, touched her in an unwanted sexual way in 1993, after Epstein introduced them

www.theguardian.com

 

[MT15]

Starting to believe that this whole rumor was started by MAGA to distract from the Kelly interview. The story above isn’t it. It supposedly involves an underage girl. I think it’s nothing at this point. It all seemed to originate with MAGA. Halperin is a MAGA helper.

 

[MT15]

Copied from Twitter

The military is jumping up and down, waving at us furiously, using the red phone, basically taking us down the Defcon chart, begging us - practically unanimously - not to vote for Adolf Trump.

There have been evil men in world history, but when 4-Star Generals -within two weeks of an election-compare him to the #1 evil man in world history in the last 200+ years, that should make you take forkin’ notice.

This has never happened before.
They are telling us…

He. Is. Fascist.

 

[MT15]

Pete putting it into perspective

 

[GrandAdmiral]

I just saw the Harris commercial with the couple that miscarried and it showed the effects of the infection and everything. Seeing that man cry at what he and his wife lost makes me want to fly to D.C. and repeatedly throat punch a bunch of mutha forkers in black robes.

 

[MT15]

I just saw the Harris commercial with the couple that miscarried and it showed the effects of the infection and everything. Seeing that man cry at what he and his wife lost makes me want to fly to D.C. and repeatedly throat punch a bunch of mutha forkers in black robes.

I saw a description and haven’t watched it on purpose. My blood pressure is too high already.

 

[Lapaz]

Copied from Twitter

The military is jumping up and down, waving at us furiously, using the red phone, basically taking us down the Defcon chart, begging us - practically unanimously - not to vote for Adolf Trump.

There have been evil men in world history, but when 4-Star Generals -within two weeks of an election-compare him to the #1 evil man in world history in the last 200+ years, that should make you take forkin’ notice.

This has never happened before.
They are telling us…

He. Is. Fascist.

The problem with calling him Hitler is that he hasn’t committed atrocities, and even the things he wants to do don’t rise to the level of Hitler. I think people mock the comparison because it is so extreme. It is fair to point out that Hitler didn’t commit those atrocities until he was entrenched securely in office. It is also fair to point out that Trump idolizes ruthless dictators, but we don’t know if he would ever be that ruthless. I think we should just say that his admiration of Hitler is dangerous and could indicate his proclivity to do horrible things.

 

[MT15]

The problem with calling him Hitler is that he hasn’t committed atrocities,

If you wait, it is far too late. He has tried to commit atrocities. He wanted demonstrators to be shot in the leg. He pledges to imprison political adversaries. He wants to summarily deport millions.

You don’t wait, you sound the alarm any way you can, IMO

 

[GrandAdmiral]

I saw a description and haven’t watched it on purpose. My blood pressure is too high already.

It was rough. I didn't expect to see what I did, but it definitely got the message across.

 

[coldseat]

The problem with calling him Hitler is that he hasn’t committed atrocities, and even the things he wants to do don’t rise to the level of Hitler. I think people mock the comparison because it is so extreme. It is fair to point out that Hitler didn’t commit those atrocities until he was entrenched securely in office. It is also fair to point out that Trump idolizes ruthless dictators, but we don’t know if he would ever be that ruthless. I think we should just say that his admiration of Hitler is dangerous and could indicate his proclivity to do horrible things.

IDK, the intentional policy of immigrant family separation and kids in cages is very Hitler adjacent. Also, Trump is more deranged and vindictive now than in his first administration and I can easily see him committing atrocities against immigrant communities (legal or not) if he's president again.

Do we need to see it play out before there are warning about Trump’s fascist promises? The reason you make the comparison is to hopefully avoid it from happening.

 

[Lapaz]

If you wait, it is far too late. He has tried to commit atrocities. He wanted demonstrators to be shot in the leg. He pledges to imprison political adversaries.

You don’t wait, you sound the alarm any way you can, IMO

Those aren’t on the level of Hitler. I agree that Trump is dangerous, and could become Hitler, but there are few people in History that have been that abominable. I just think the comparison is too extreme. I heard Scott Jennings saying Democrats are ridiculous for comparing Trump to Hitler, and like it or not, a lot of people will agree. It diminishes the value of the criticism. It’s better to ask why does he admire those tyrants. Let people come to their own conclusion.

 

[Lapaz]

IDK, the intentional policy of immigrant family separation and kids in cages is very Hitler adjacent. Also, Trump is more deranged and vindictive now than in his first administration and I can easily see him committing atrocities against immigrant communities (legal or not) of he's president again.

Do we need to see it play out before there are warning and Trump’s fascist promises? The reason you make the comparison is to hopefully avoid it from happening.

Those things are horrible but not comparable to exterminating 6 million people. Jews in a particular will be turned off by that comparison. I understand why people are comparing him to Hitler, but then they need to educate people on how Hitler wasn’t that abominable when he first got elected. It is a cautionary tale, but he isn’t and may never become Hitler.

 

[bdb13]

Think I already posted something along these lines but.. I find this all to be fairly stressful (sure I'm not alone there). Can't hardly do the day-to-day stuff anymore because it's all just.. too forking much man. Like for real, too much.

I think she may very well win but I have no confidence in it beyond a 50-50 proposition.. some strange mix of me just wanting this shirt to be over one way or another (hint to myself: doesn't really end here, but nice thought) and also being shocked that this election is already here.

Here's to.. something good.