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    Richard

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    To get our minds off of the virus, debates and campaign theatrics for a moment, I thought it might be an interesting exercise to post our predictions of the final Electoral College margin. Of course, any prediction made would be a moment-in-time snapshot of what we think will happen given the current circumstances. Any number of factors could influence the vote over the final month of the campaign.

    There are sites that can help you arrive at your prediction. Real Clear Politics and 538 have polling data that can help you come up with a number. I use RCP mostly because they have a good interactive national map that's easy to use and they don't include polls conducted by companies like SurveyMonkey. They do, however include partisan polling, like Trafalgar and Change Research.

    My prediction started with looking at a best case scenario for a Trump reelection. I started by putting all of the states shown to lean in one direction in that camp. RCP shows states like Indiana and Missouri leaning Trump and Oregon and Virginia leaning Biden when those states and others like them are certainly going to end up in those columns. That leaves 11 "battleground" states (and two one-vote congressional districts) that theoretically could go either way and gives a picture of a 226-125 Biden lead before assigning a winner in those states. In looking at Trump's best case scenario, I gave him every state in which he is marginally ahead and those he is behind by less less than five points, as well as the two congressional districts. That would provide Biden with a slim 278-260 win. To come out with a better scenario for Trump, you would need to assign one or more of Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin or New Hampshire to Trump and he is trailing in all of those states by more than five points.

    However, I don't believe that Trump will achieve his best case numbers and Biden could win several more states, like Arizona, Ohio, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina, Georgia and Texas. I still think Trump will likely keep Texas, Iowa and Georgia, so my prediction as of today is 353-185 in favor of Biden.

    If you choose to participate in this exercise, you are welcome to give different predictions over the course of the next month. I intend to post a final prediction on Nov. 2/3 and may even post a weekly prediction, depending on the level of participation.
     
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    I'm still concerned whether or not those who fall into the 'already voted' category are guaranteed that their votes will be counted and not thrown out for one reason or another. Pretty much no in-person election day votes are thrown out.
     
    A depressed Election Day turn out helps Biden since most people who vote in person are leaning trump.
     
    I'm still concerned whether or not those who fall into the 'already voted' category are guaranteed that their votes will be counted and not thrown out for one reason or another. Pretty much no in-person election day votes are thrown out.
    Some swing states report rejected ballot %:
    GA, MI = 0.1%
    NC = 7675 or 0.8% (This is the biggest one to worry about)
    PA = 897 total
    IA = 1559 total

    From election project.
     
    A depressed Election Day turn out helps Biden since most people who vote in person are leaning trump.


    Yep I would tend to agree with you. Also the fight to vote mask less is gonna slow the whole process to a crawl.

    Because you know they are gonna show up mask less.
     
    I do not understand that.

    If Trump wins those 3 states plus Arizona (where 538 says Trump has a 32% chance of winning) then Trump still has not won. The next state Trump is most likely to win is Pennsylvania and 538 places his chances of winning there at 14%.
    How could a 14% chance of winning Penn (combined with a 32% chance of winning Arizona) somehow mean Trump has a 48% chance of winning the election?
    Perhaps more to the point - those 3 states are all closer than Penn. But is the idea that if Trump wins all 3 then polling has been under for Trump and thus 538's model or whatever would bump Trump's chances of winning Penn by over 200%?
    The model adjusts based on outcomes. It tries to correct undercounting from polls, if the actual vote shows a large discrepancy.

    So, if Trump wins those states, his odds of winning PA is a lot higher than the current 14% forecast.
     
    It will also be interesting/worthwhile to see how the polling correlations hold up to the CDs. Those were the warning signs in MI and WI in 2016.

    if they correlate this year, to the same extent, that’s good news this time around
     
    Florida says, “Fork your nails, Ayo. Keep biting!”

     
    According to what I remember, Biden is up by 10 with seniors, up by more than that with suburban women. A lot of them could be registered Rs. 🤷‍♀️

    We shall see.

    Thats actually a good point. It would be interesting to see the breakdown of that R in person vote by sex. That could make a difference.
     
    Harris County is shutting down 9 of the 10 drive thru voting locations tomorrow instead of fight the Republicans in court or having people cast ballots that may be thrown out. That is going to really hurt the effort the flip Texas because it will almost definitely reduce the Democrat vote count.
     

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