Election Night (+4) in America - Result: Biden Elected President (9 Viewers)

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    UncleTrvlingJim said:
    I know it's her job, but Ronna McDaniel said that she sees a viable path for Trump to take Nevada. I'm not really good at this, but from my look at it, Trump would have to really out perform in the mail-in ballots and in Reno and Las Vegas than he has up to this point to do that.
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    I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of voters in Las Vegas were swayed by Trump's warning that Biden was going to "lockdown" the country.
     
    This is a total poop-show. It might be a saving grace if Biden wins and America doesn't tip towards autocracy but the DNC fumbled this one big time. Tom Perez is incompetent but sadly will probably remain party chair. Whoever is in charge of the DNC Senate campaign effort needs to be fired. Way too much hyping of Jaime Harrison in what was almost certainly an unwinnable race only to have Gideon to lose handily to Susan Collins and possibly Gary Peters lose in Michigan.

    This can barely be called a 'win.' If Biden manages to win there still needs to be some major changes at the top of the DNC but I doubt it happens and they'll fail to take advantage in 2022 and risk losing the Presidency to an intelligent autocrat in 2024. Their only saving grace is if the GOP establishment makes it harder for a whack-job like Trump to become the candidate but I would not expect to see a moderate GOP candidate come out of the 2024 primaries.
     
    SaulGoodmanEsq said:
    This is a total poop-show. It might be a saving grace if Biden wins and America doesn't tip towards autocracy but the DNC fumbled this one big time. Tom Perez is incompetent but sadly will probably remain party chair. Whoever is in charge of the DNC Senate campaign effort needs to be fired. Way too much hyping of Jaime Harrison in what was almost certainly an unwinnable race only to have Gideon to lose handily to Susan Collins and possibly Gary Peters lose in Michigan.

    This can barely be called a 'win.' If Biden manages to win there still needs to be some major changes at the top of the DNC but I doubt it happens and they'll fail to take advantage in 2022 and risk losing the Presidency to an intelligent autocrat in 2024. Their only saving grace is if the GOP establishment makes it harder for a whack-job like Trump to become the candidate but I would not expect to see a moderate GOP candidate come out of the 2024 primaries.
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    Tom Perez is the worst thing to happen to the DNC since Debbie Wasserman-Schulz.
     
    Getting Trump out of office was job number 1. I'm confident that will happen. The lackluster results in congress should force much needed leadership changes in the party, but make no mistake getting rid of Trump is paramount.
     
    Regardless if Biden wins or not, this is who we are and it is beyond disappointing. We are a nation that has fully embraced trumpisim and that is evident by the trumpist maintaining control of the Senate and gaining seats in the House, pretty much ensuring that nothing would be accomplished in a Biden presidency. This is Us.
     
    SaulGoodmanEsq said:
    I don't disagree but, again, the optics of some of the stuff he said were just bad. I respect the fact he isn't concerned with image but you sort of have to be when you're running for President and the other side is denouncing you as a communist.
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    Republicans denounced Obama as a socialist. Who had the problem again?
     
    Trumpers are suffering from Stockholm syndrome. They have fallen in love with their captor. On the whole, they aren’t that bright let’s be honest.

    Also, as a nation, we need to look at this as rock bottom like an alcoholic.

    First step is admitting you have a problem.

    once they are released, and all the information starts pouring out, we can finally move on to the next phase which is atonement. Finally, around 2022, we can hopefully move on to making amends to those we have hurt.
     
    SaulGoodmanEsq said:
    This is a total poop-show. It might be a saving grace if Biden wins and America doesn't tip towards autocracy but the DNC fumbled this one big time. Tom Perez is incompetent but sadly will probably remain party chair. Whoever is in charge of the DNC Senate campaign effort needs to be fired. Way too much hyping of Jaime Harrison in what was almost certainly an unwinnable race only to have Gideon to lose handily to Susan Collins and possibly Gary Peters lose in Michigan.

    This can barely be called a 'win.' If Biden manages to win there still needs to be some major changes at the top of the DNC but I doubt it happens and they'll fail to take advantage in 2022 and risk losing the Presidency to an intelligent autocrat in 2024. Their only saving grace is if the GOP establishment makes it harder for a whack-job like Trump to become the candidate but I would not expect to see a moderate GOP candidate come out of the 2024 primaries.
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    You are probably 100% right with this. But the problem with this country isn't who is running the Democratic part, where the money is going or what the message is. I don't think any of that really mattered in the grand scheme of things.

    The problem is with the people of America. When people can look at what this president and administration have done and still vote for that in such large numbers, it's not just about a message. It's the people. The psycology of the Trump voter isn't penetrated by facts, message or issues.
     
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