Election Night (+4) in America - Result: Biden Elected President (24 Viewers)

[GrandAdmiral]

I'll probably be flipping between CNN, NBC, and probably PBS if they have coverage.

What station you got?

 

[First Time Poster]

It means something. What, I'm not yet sure. I don't want to be flip about it. People I know and respect, even people I love voted for Trump - some of whom because they simply cannot stomach key Democrat policies (on tax, business regulation, the social 'safety net', etc.). These things go to their core identity and even though they would agree that Donald Trump's rhetoric and policies (in some areas) have genuinely damaged the United States, and that he has terribly mismanaged the Covid crisis, they still choose Trump over the Democrat. And it's always going to be that way.

I love the way Sean Payton coaches, particularly offense. I identify with that style of offensive football. And, yet, if he retired or whatever and I could vote for the next coach of the Saints and my choices were Marty Schottenheimer or El Chapo with El Chapo promising to run an SP style offense, I'm going to vote for Marty.

What you are describing above is privilege. Persons who enjoy the privilege of voting for someone, whose policies they like or identify with, while being able to disregard or be indifferent to how destructive they are because that destructiveness won't affect them primarily or disproportionately. And the fact that "it's always going to be that way" is depressing for me.

 

[Lapaz]

No. He needs 77k to catch up. Then he needs to split the rest +1 to win. So (((344,000-77,000)/2)+1+77,000)/344,000) = 61.19% More or less.

Coldseat, you're correct, and I was wrong. Here is an easy way to look at it. Let's say Biden has 0 votes, and Trump has 77k votes. Biden needs to win 77k votes to tie, which leaves 267k votes. He would have to evenly split the remaining 267k, which is 133.5k. So Biden needs 133.5 + 77k to tie = 210k. 210/344 = 61.19. Good correction, and that makes it much more likely for Biden to win North Carolina, since only mail-in votes remain uncounted. Based on this analysis, I think Biden will win North Carolina.

 

[CoolBrees]

Senate isn’t going to flip.

so we won’t get anything done for 4 years of meaning. I am ok with four years of just fixing the shirt show.

I hope all the lurkers that were enjoying the show last night are still having as much fun as the reality that their leader is going down sinks in.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

The problem with not winning the Senate is the GOP will just block all of Biden's judicial nominees including Supreme Court appointments. Breyer is 82.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Senate isn’t going to flip.

so we won’t get anything done for 4 years of meaning. I am ok with four years of just fixing the shirt show.

I hope all the lurkers that were enjoying the show last night are still having as much fun as the reality that their leader is going down sinks in.

Well, the 2022 Senate race is more favorable to Democrats.

The other interesting tidbit from election night is that the House Democrats actually lost seats last night. They will a very slim majority. Pelosi ought to step down as Speaker.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

Well, the 2022 Senate race is more favorable to Democrats.

The other interesting tidbit from election night is that the House Democrats actually lost seats last night. They will a very slim majority. Pelosi ought to step down as Speaker.

Trump didn't have a big enough coat for himself, but he did have coat tails.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Trump didn't have a big enough coat for himself, but he did have coat tails.

Yeah, the Republican turnout was huge, and Trump had just enough unfavorables to prevent him from carrying enough states (probably)... but it certainly debunked the standard notion that high turnouts are super helpful to Dems.

 

[B4YOU]

CNN - there are 200-250k outstanding ballots in GA most of which is absentee ballots. GA Sec of State expects by end of day to have all ballots. Others put the number at close to 300k. Trump has an 87k lead with 7% remaining.

 

[Lapaz]

Senate isn’t going to flip.

so we won’t get anything done for 4 years of meaning. I am ok with four years of just fixing the shirt show.

I hope all the lurkers that were enjoying the show last night are still having as much fun as the reality that their leader is going down sinks in.

Are you sure the senate isn't flipping? Georgia still has a chance of electing 2 democrats. Warnock is leading, so I think at least 1 of the Georgia senators will be democratic. Democrats only lost Alabama, but Arizona and Colorado have flipped, so that makes it 48 to 52. Democrats should gain 1 and maybe 2 in Georgia plus North Carolina and Maine may still flip. If Democrats get 2 more, then they'll have 50, plus the tiebreaking vice president.

 

[CoolBrees]

@UncleTrvlingJim -

Did it show that high votes don’t favor Dems?

I mean Dems are going to win the Presidency with a huge majority in the popular vote, pick up a seat -minimum- in the Senate and held serve in the House during the highest turnout is ages.

that sounds like a good day for the group that could screw up a sure thing better than anyone not named Matt Ryan

ETA- those seats in GA will go to a run off and she (Loeffler) will win.

 

[DaveXA]

Well, the 2022 Senate race is more favorable to Democrats.

The other interesting tidbit from election night is that the House Democrats actually lost seats last night. They will a very slim majority. Pelosi ought to step down as Speaker.

Weird, Fox was reporting last night that the Democrats would expand their majority in the House...but...apparently, the Republicans started flipping some seats unexpectedly. Yeah, if the House Democrats are losing seats in the House, that doesn't bode well for Pelosi.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

So the Wisconsin Sec. of State says all votes have been counted by one county with no more than 300 voters. I think it's safe to say Biden has won. CNN, however, continues to say it's too close to call. What the hell?

 

[Saint by the Bay]

So the Wisconsin Sec. of State says all votes have been counted by one county with no more than 300 voters. I think it's safe to say Biden has won. CNN, however, continues to say it's too close to call. What the hell?

Being extra cautious because we have an unhinged toddler Tweeting to rabid supporters from the White House.

 

[DaveXA]

@UncleTrvlingJim -

Did it show that high votes don’t favor Dems?

I mean Dems are going to win the Presidency with a huge majority in the popular vote, pick up a seat -minimum- in the Senate and held serve in the House during the highest turnout is ages.

that sounds like a good day for the group that could screw up a sure thing better than anyone not named Matt Ryan

ETA- those seats in GA will go to a run off and she (Loeffler) will win.

I wouldn't call 2% a huge majority. It's significant enough though.

 

[Lapaz]

So the Wisconsin Sec. of State says all votes have been counted by one county with no more than 300 voters. I think it's safe to say Biden has won. CNN, however, continues to say it's too close to call. What the hell?

NBC says that there are still 27k outstanding votes, and Biden leads by about 21k.

Wisconsin presidential election results 2020: Live results and polls

Wisconsin general election results 2020, including electoral votes for Trump and Biden, voting maps by county and district, and live polling results.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Saint by the Bay]

Yeah, the Republican turnout was huge, and Trump had just enough unfavorables to prevent him from carrying enough states (probably)... but it certainly debunked the standard notion that high turnouts are super helpful to Dems.

I think trump drove turnout, but there were Republicans voting anyway that went red on everything except him.

That extra 500 - 1000 voters per rural county across the country made a big difference. Rural America hasn't been this supercharged in modern history.

 

[DaveXA]

I think trump drove turnout, but there were Republicans voting anyway that went red on everything except him.

That extra 500 - 1000 voters per rural county across the country made a big difference. Rural America hasn't been this supercharged in modern history.

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised that this many turned out. This is going to be an interesting case study for years to come. Also, as some have stated earlier in the thread, polling is broken. Clearly the rural vote has been undercounted to a large degree. I would have thought that was accounted for after 2016 though.

 

[jdn9201]

Are you sure the senate isn't flipping? Georgia still has a chance of electing 2 democrats. Warnock is leading, so I think at least 1 of the Georgia senators will be democratic. Democrats only lost Alabama, but Arizona and Colorado have flipped, so that makes it 48 to 52. Democrats should gain 1 and maybe 2 in Georgia plus North Carolina and Maine may still flip. If Democrats get 2 more, then they'll have 50, plus the tiebreaking vice president.

The problem with the Warnock race is yeah he may be winning now, but once Collins drops out and his voters swing to Loeffler, Warnock is done. I think it’s pretty safe that the Rs keep both seats in Ga. the senate race to watch is the one in Michigan. I thought John James didn’t have a chance - it wouldn’t look good if he pulls off the upset.