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    Frankly, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to the Critical Race Theory curriculum. What is it, where does it come from, and is it legitimate? Has anyone here read it and maybe give a quick summary?

    If this has been covered in another thread, then I missed it.
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    Here we go
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    A parent in Texas called for a children's biography about former first lady Michelle Obama to be pulled from school libraries because they viewed it as unfair to former President Donald Trump.

    The Katy, Texas, parent took issue with a book titled "Michelle Obama: Political Icon" by Heather E. Schwartz, claiming it "unfairly" depicted Trump "as a bully," according to NBC News, which on Wednesday published a list of 50 books that parents in Texas have asked schools to remove.

    The request came as books depicting race, sexuality, and gender have faced heightened scrutiny from conservatives in the US, with many demanding certain titles be pulled from school libraries.

    The parent in Katy, who was not named in NBC's report, said the book about Michelle Obama gave the impression that "if you sound like a white girl you should be ashamed of yourself," NBC News reported.

    In a statement to Insider, Schwartz said she was "shocked" that someone wanted to ban her book because it "is a nonfiction book that doesn't strike me as at all controversial."........

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    What a giant group of losers. Yank Michelle Obama's biography because Donald Trump is a piece of shirt? Yeah, that makes sense. And to think these people were the ones for years calling liberals snowflakes. They haven't stopped crying since Trump was just candidate Trump.
     
    “Those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it”

    Then you have those who do know some history and are desperate to repeat it

    Specifically, the history of how history used to be taught

    And this is how you get generations thinking that ‘slavery wasn’t that bad’
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    ……So how would history sound denuded of anything potentially distressing for White kids? We don’t have to guess, because we’ve already been there.

    I have an actual 7th-grade textbook used in Virginia’s public schools from the 1950s through the 1970s — when Virginia began moving toward the current version of history: the truth.


    I therefore present these verbatim excerpts from the textbook (“Virginia: History, Government, Geography” by Francis Butler Simkins and others), shared with me by Hamilton College historian Ty Seidule, author of “Robert E. Lee and Me: A Southerner’s Reckoning with the Myth of the Lost Cause.”

    Let’s call it “Glenn Youngkin’s No-Guilt History of Virginia for Fragile White People.”

    “A feeling of strong affection existed between masters and slaves in a majority of Virginia homes. … It was to [the master’s] own interest to keep his slaves contented and in good health. If he treated them well, he could win their loyalty and cooperation. … The intelligent master found it profitable to discover and develop the talents and abilities of each slave. … The more progressive planters tried to promote loyalty and love of work by gifts and awards.”

    “Many Negroes were taught to read and write. Many of them were allowed to meet in groups for preaching, for funerals, and for singing and dancing. They went visiting at night and sometimes owned guns. … Most of them were treated with kindness.”


    “The tasks of each [house slave] were light. … They learned much about the finer things of life. The house servants took a great deal of pride in their comfortable positions. …The field hands … were given a rest period at noon, usually from one to three hours. Those who were too old or too sick to work in the fields were not forced to do so. … The ‘task system’ … gave them free hours after they finished their daily tasks. … The planter often kept a close eye upon [the overseer] to see that the slaves were not overworked or badly treated.”


    “Each slave was given a weekly ration consisting of three or four pounds of pork and plenty of corn meal and molasses. To this food were added the vegetables, fruits, hogs and chickens which the slaves were allowed to raise for themselves. … When a slave was sick, tempting food was often carried to him from the master’s table. … At [Christmas,] extra rations and presents were given the slaves.”…….

    "[The slaves] liked Virginia food, Virginia climate, and Virginia ways of living. Those Negroes who went to Liberia … were homesick. Many longed to get back to the plantations. … It must be remembered that Virginia was a home as much beloved by most of its Negroes as by its white people. Negroes did not wish to leave their old masters.”


    “Life among the Negroes of Virginia in slavery times was generally happy. The Negroes went about in a cheerful manner making a living for themselves and for those for whom they worked. … They were not worried by the furious arguments going on between Northerners and Southerners over what should be done with them. … The negroes remained loyal to their white mistresses even after President Lincoln promised in his Emancipation Proclamation that the slaves would be freed.”


    There you have it. Historically wrong and morally bankrupt — but for tender White minds, discomfort-free………

     
    superchuck500 said:
    Anyone surprised?


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    No surprise here. This was the whole point of taking CRT and redefining it to mean all discussion of black history. Up to and including Michelle Obama, apparently.
     
    DaveXA said:
    Frankly, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to the Critical Race Theory curriculum. What is it, where does it come from, and is it legitimate? Has anyone here read it and maybe give a quick summary?

    If this has been covered in another thread, then I missed it.
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    "CRT" is a Pavlovianly conditioned trigger term. There are elective courses offered in colleges and universities that take a hard look at the institutionalism of racism in american society throughout our history and its implications within society today. Some folks are soiling themselves over it.
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    “Those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it”

    Then you have those who do know some history and are desperate to repeat it

    Specifically, the history of how history used to be taught

    And this is how you get generations thinking that ‘slavery wasn’t that bad’
    =============

    ……So how would history sound denuded of anything potentially distressing for White kids? We don’t have to guess, because we’ve already been there.

    I have an actual 7th-grade textbook used in Virginia’s public schools from the 1950s through the 1970s — when Virginia began moving toward the current version of history: the truth.


    I therefore present these verbatim excerpts from the textbook (“Virginia: History, Government, Geography” by Francis Butler Simkins and others), shared with me by Hamilton College historian Ty Seidule, author of “Robert E. Lee and Me: A Southerner’s Reckoning with the Myth of the Lost Cause.”

    Let’s call it “Glenn Youngkin’s No-Guilt History of Virginia for Fragile White People.”

    “A feeling of strong affection existed between masters and slaves in a majority of Virginia homes. … It was to [the master’s] own interest to keep his slaves contented and in good health. If he treated them well, he could win their loyalty and cooperation. … The intelligent master found it profitable to discover and develop the talents and abilities of each slave. … The more progressive planters tried to promote loyalty and love of work by gifts and awards.”

    “Many Negroes were taught to read and write. Many of them were allowed to meet in groups for preaching, for funerals, and for singing and dancing. They went visiting at night and sometimes owned guns. … Most of them were treated with kindness.”


    “The tasks of each [house slave] were light. … They learned much about the finer things of life. The house servants took a great deal of pride in their comfortable positions. …The field hands … were given a rest period at noon, usually from one to three hours. Those who were too old or too sick to work in the fields were not forced to do so. … The ‘task system’ … gave them free hours after they finished their daily tasks. … The planter often kept a close eye upon [the overseer] to see that the slaves were not overworked or badly treated.”


    “Each slave was given a weekly ration consisting of three or four pounds of pork and plenty of corn meal and molasses. To this food were added the vegetables, fruits, hogs and chickens which the slaves were allowed to raise for themselves. … When a slave was sick, tempting food was often carried to him from the master’s table. … At [Christmas,] extra rations and presents were given the slaves.”…….

    "[The slaves] liked Virginia food, Virginia climate, and Virginia ways of living. Those Negroes who went to Liberia … were homesick. Many longed to get back to the plantations. … It must be remembered that Virginia was a home as much beloved by most of its Negroes as by its white people. Negroes did not wish to leave their old masters.”


    “Life among the Negroes of Virginia in slavery times was generally happy. The Negroes went about in a cheerful manner making a living for themselves and for those for whom they worked. … They were not worried by the furious arguments going on between Northerners and Southerners over what should be done with them. … The negroes remained loyal to their white mistresses even after President Lincoln promised in his Emancipation Proclamation that the slaves would be freed.”


    There you have it. Historically wrong and morally bankrupt — but for tender White minds, discomfort-free………

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    Knowing the truth never left me feeling anything but more aware; never felt threatened, shamed, blamed or attacked. But now we have a pejorative term for that as well. 'Course I grew up in the 1960's and saw it all for myself. You can't hide that stuff from anyone. Folks are either ok with it or they're not.
     
    Excellent article and a question that should be asked of every single person opposed to CRT which has morphed to mean simply black history

    Bolding is mine

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    Of all the attempts around the country to coddle the snowflakes among us who can’t handle the reality that our shared history is equal parts noble and brutal, the “discomfort” bill in the Florida state legislature is the most idiotic.


    The official name of the legislation, part of the bonkers “stop woke” agenda of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, is “Individual Freedom.”

    One of its provisions directs that classroom instruction not make any student "feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race.”


    That protection from “discomfort,” of course, is a one-way street accessible only to White students.

    What about the unease Black students feel learning history that is sanitized or just plain incorrect?

    I know I’m going back some decades, but I’ll never forget the discomfort of being one of the few Black kids in a predominantly White school, especially during history class when slavery, the Civil War, the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. or the civil rights movement would come up.


    One teacher often had students read sections of the textbook aloud in class. No one ever saw my growing alarm as I realized that the (startlingly brief) section on slavery would be intoned by me. I could feel the eyes on me as I read aloud paragraphs that barely scratched the surface of the inhumanity visited upon my ancestors.


    The Civil War was merely a costly conflict between North and South that resulted in the liberation of the slaves.

    And the civil rights movement, in retrospect, was discussed with an odd mix of admiration at how African Americans braved harrowing violence to push for the equality promised in the Constitution — and annoyance at how they disrupted the status quo by doing so.

    Mostly, though, Black people and our foundational contributions to this country were downplayed or ignored……..

    That’s who gets lost in all this: Black parents and their children. All because some White people can’t bear feeling “uncomfortable” learning about “divisive” subjects.

    They want a gauzy, feel-good version of history that blinds them to the impact such a mythology has on events unfolding now.

    Meanwhile, Black people have to live with the real-life consequences of this blissful ignorance…….

     
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    Those who control the past, control the future.

    The past isn’t gone, it isn’t even passed.

    Not only are racists still fighting the US Civil War we can see the same thing in other countries. In Russia the Great Patriotic War ended yesterday.
     
    I think this is going to get really bad in the future

    Can't have white kids feeling uncomfortable learning about this, the discomfort the 10 year old girl actually experiencing and seeing her mother go through this feels?

    Fork her
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    A Wichita, Kansas, principal was ordered to apologize after showing a video about racism and white privilege to his staff, KMUW reported.

    Tim Hamblin of Derby High School showed his staff the video last month, KMUW reported.

    The four-minute video showed the Black author and academic Joy DeGruy relating an incident that showed how white privilege can be leveraged positively in solidarity with people of color.

    In the video, DeGruy told a story of how she and her sister-in-law, who is white-passing, were treated markedly differently when paying at the grocery store.

    While her sister-in-law had paid with a check with no problems, the cashier asked DeGruy for two forms of ID and looked her up in the store's records before being willing to accept her check, DeGruy said.

    DeGruy didn't want to look like an "angry Black woman" by complaining, but her sister-in-law challenged the cashier, she said.

    "She used her white privilege to educate and to make right a situation that was wrong," said DeGruy. "That's what you can do. Every single day."

    Hamblin told KMUW that he showed his staff the video because students had been shown it late last year, following an incident in which racially-based comments were made to some students. He wanted to ensure the staff were aware what the students had seen, he told the outlet.

    However, a teacher at that meeting complained to the school board that Hamblin had created a hostile working environment and that the video was offensive, KMUW reported.

    The board then contacted Hamblin with the demand for an apology, the outlet reported, adding they did not name the teacher, who feared retribution.

    "The point was nothing more than to share what some of our kids were dealing with and one thing that they would see to try and help them get through it," Hamblin said in the emailed apology, seen by KMUW.

    "I apologize to anyone that felt the video or its content which reference white privilege made them feel uncomfortable, awkward, harassed, or that it created a hostile work environment."..............




    Video that was shown:

     
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    Optimus Prime said:
    Excellent article and a question that should be asked of every single person opposed to CRT which has morphed to mean simply black history

    Bolding is mine

    =========================

    Of all the attempts around the country to coddle the snowflakes among us who can’t handle the reality that our shared history is equal parts noble and brutal, the “discomfort” bill in the Florida state legislature is the most idiotic.


    The official name of the legislation, part of the bonkers “stop woke” agenda of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, is “Individual Freedom.”

    One of its provisions directs that classroom instruction not make any student "feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race.”


    That protection from “discomfort,” of course, is a one-way street accessible only to White students.

    What about the unease Black students feel learning history that is sanitized or just plain incorrect?

    I know I’m going back some decades, but I’ll never forget the discomfort of being one of the few Black kids in a predominantly White school, especially during history class when slavery, the Civil War, the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. or the civil rights movement would come up.


    One teacher often had students read sections of the textbook aloud in class. No one ever saw my growing alarm as I realized that the (startlingly brief) section on slavery would be intoned by me. I could feel the eyes on me as I read aloud paragraphs that barely scratched the surface of the inhumanity visited upon my ancestors.


    The Civil War was merely a costly conflict between North and South that resulted in the liberation of the slaves.

    And the civil rights movement, in retrospect, was discussed with an odd mix of admiration at how African Americans braved harrowing violence to push for the equality promised in the Constitution — and annoyance at how they disrupted the status quo by doing so.

    Mostly, though, Black people and our foundational contributions to this country were downplayed or ignored……..

    That’s who gets lost in all this: Black parents and their children. All because some White people can’t bear feeling “uncomfortable” learning about “divisive” subjects.

    They want a gauzy, feel-good version of history that blinds them to the impact such a mythology has on events unfolding now.

    Meanwhile, Black people have to live with the real-life consequences of this blissful ignorance…….

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    Quoting this just to thank @Optimus Prime for finally motivating me to pay the $0.99 a week or whatever to read the WaPo online. It was getting annoying using a VPN from a different location every time he posted another link to a story on their site.
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    I think this is going to get really bad in the future

    Can't have white kids feeling uncomfortable learning about this, the discomfort the 10 year old girl actually experiencing and seeing her mother go through this feels?

    Fork her
    =================================

    A Wichita, Kansas, principal was ordered to apologize after showing a video about racism and white privilege to his staff, KMUW reported.

    Tim Hamblin of Derby High School showed his staff the video last month, KMUW reported.

    The four-minute video showed the Black author and academic Joy DeGruy relating an incident that showed how white privilege can be leveraged positively in solidarity with people of color.

    In the video, DeGruy told a story of how she and her sister-in-law, who is white-passing, were treated markedly differently when paying at the grocery store.

    While her sister-in-law had paid with a check with no problems, the cashier asked DeGruy for two forms of ID and looked her up in the store's records before being willing to accept her check, DeGruy said.

    DeGruy didn't want to look like an "angry Black woman" by complaining, but her sister-in-law challenged the cashier, she said.

    "She used her white privilege to educate and to make right a situation that was wrong," said DeGruy. "That's what you can do. Every single day."

    Hamblin told KMUW that he showed his staff the video because students had been shown it late last year, following an incident in which racially-based comments were made to some students. He wanted to ensure the staff were aware what the students had seen, he told the outlet.

    However, a teacher at that meeting complained to the school board that Hamblin had created a hostile working environment and that the video was offensive, KMUW reported.

    The board then contacted Hamblin with the demand for an apology, the outlet reported, adding they did not name the teacher, who feared retribution.

    "The point was nothing more than to share what some of our kids were dealing with and one thing that they would see to try and help them get through it," Hamblin said in the emailed apology, seen by KMUW.

    "I apologize to anyone that felt the video or its content which reference white privilege made them feel uncomfortable, awkward, harassed, or that it created a hostile work environment."..............




    Video that was shown:

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    This is sickening, that someone would demand an apology for having seen that. I cannot believe that we as a society are coddling the snowflakes like this. Makes my blood boil.

    If this video makes you uncomfortable, then you have a problem, not the school or the principal who showed the video.
     
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    MT15 said:
    This is sickening, that someone would demand an apology for having seen that. I cannot believe that we as a society are coddling the snowflakes like this. Makes my blood boil.

    If this video makes you uncomfortable, then you have a problem, not the school or the principle who showed the video.
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    And it wasn’t an angry parent complaining

    It was a teacher
     

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