Critical race theory (5 Viewers)

[DaveXA]

Frankly, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to the Critical Race Theory curriculum. What is it, where does it come from, and is it legitimate? Has anyone here read it and maybe give a quick summary?

If this has been covered in another thread, then I missed it.

 

[Farb]

Was it his service to the country in WWII or his vast education that makes you dislike him?


No wait, I think I have it, you are mad that he helped end segregation?

You dont like him cause mary Grabar says the 1619 project is anti-american?



So what of his "teachings" have you read?

False equivalency? We have to follow and accept all views from veterans or those that are against segregation? I am glad we don't have to live by those rules.

He wrote the pamphlet 1619 project?

 

[Port City JJ]

False equivalency?

 

[brandon]

Yes, people. The only measuring stick for civilization.

I am obviously much less educated as you, nothing has changed from the last time you pointed that.

Yes, I am well aware of the narrative of the peaceful and harmonic tribes that lived here in the garden of Eden until the white devil showed up. I just don't buy into the fairytale. Just like the idea that the Muslim culture was more advanced than medieval Europe.

Seems odd for a large, advanced and thriving population/tribe to decide to up and assimilate with another rival tribe. Taken as slaves from war would make sense but not to split up and some go live with these guys and the rest go live with these other people.

For someone who isn't a white supremacist, you're sure invested in white people having superior civilizations to non-white people.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Sorry, I can't take anything backed by state run education as very serious in the current climate.

"How many Ivy League Universities' students come from the US public school system?
Assuming the question is directed at the undergraduate level; as of the latest class (Class of 2018), here are the numbers:

Brown: 63% *
Columbia: n/a - Page on columbia.edu
Cornell: 64.6% - Page on cornell.edu
Dartmouth: n/a - 2,220 Students Offered Acceptance to the Class of 2018
Harvard: 58% ^
U Penn: n/a - Incoming Class Profile
Princeton: 61% *
Yale: 55% ^

In conclusion, more than half of the class come from public high schools, ranging from 55% at Yale (lowest) to 64.6% at Cornell (highest) [of those schools that publicly report this data and/or based on surveys of the incoming class]."

https://www.quora.com/How-many-Ivy-...tudents-come-from-the-US-public-school-system

 

[Farb]

"How many Ivy League Universities' students come from the US public school system?
Assuming the question is directed at the undergraduate level; as of the latest class (Class of 2018), here are the numbers:

Brown: 63% *
Columbia: n/a - Page on columbia.edu
Cornell: 64.6% - Page on cornell.edu
Dartmouth: n/a - 2,220 Students Offered Acceptance to the Class of 2018
Harvard: 58% ^
U Penn: n/a - Incoming Class Profile
Princeton: 61% *
Yale: 55% ^

In conclusion, more than half of the class come from public high schools, ranging from 55% at Yale (lowest) to 64.6% at Cornell (highest) [of those schools that publicly report this data and/or based on surveys of the incoming class]."

https://www.quora.com/How-many-Ivy-...tudents-come-from-the-US-public-school-system

And most of those will go on to serve in politics/lobby/law, so there is half the problem with our 'elites'
If you expect me to be awed by a Ivy league education, you will be disappointed. The left ideology is steeped in those institutions so I have no respect for those kind of people.
After all, I am just an uneducated dumb redneck that needs to be told how to live by those above me. That is the Ivey League way after all.

 

[coldseat]

An excellent Q&A with one of the architects of critical race theory.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/an-architect-of-critical-race-theory-we-cannot-allow-all-of-the-lessons-from-the-civil-rights-movement-forward-to-be-packed-up-and-put-away-for-storage/2022/01/14/24bb31de-627e-11ec-a7e8-3a8455b71fad_story.html

 

[Lapaz]

And most of those will go on to serve in politics/lobby/law, so there is half the problem with our 'elites'
If you expect me to be awed by a Ivy league education, you will be disappointed. The left ideology is steeped in those institutions so I have no respect for those kind of people.
After all, I am just an uneducated dumb redneck that needs to be told how to live by those above me. That is the Ivey League way after all.

I don’t understand this attitude towards the highly educated. I know that there are many intelligent people that don’t go to Ivys and many that don’t even go to college, but it’s dumb not to be impressed with their graduates in general. They are among the smartest people in the world. Those are the people that give the US an edge. Some got in through connections, but those schools have high standards for most. This anti-elite and anti-science feeling among the right is dumb and bad for the country. You can be a smart red neck, but most people get red necks because they weren’t smart enough to make money another way. I respect blue collar workers, but I also respect non-red necks. I’m thankful that we have very smart non-red neck white collar workers that invent most of the great technology we use. Those non-red necks invented the vaccines and other life saving medicines and treatments. They are the ones that may save our earth.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Yet another CRT = anything dealing with black people article
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MIAMI — A Florida school district canceled a professor’s civil rights history seminar for teachers, citing in part concerns over “critical race theory” — even though his lecture had nothing to do with the topic.

J. Michael Butler, a history professor at Flagler College in St. Augustine, was scheduled to give a presentation Saturday to Osceola County School District teachers called “The Long Civil Rights Movement,” which postulates that the civil rights movement preceded and post-dated Martin Luther King Jr. by decades.

He said that he was shocked to learn why the seminar had been canceled through an email Wednesday but that he wasn’t surprised because educators feel increasingly intimidated over teaching about race.

Less than 24 hours before Butler was informed of the cancellation, a state Senate committee advanced legislation Tuesday at the behest of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis to block public schools and private businesses from making people feel “discomfort” when they’re taught about race. DeSantis also wants to empower parents to sue schools that teach critical race theory.

“There’s a climate of fear, an atmosphere created by Gov. Ron DeSantis, that has blurred the lines between scared and opportunistic,” Butler said in a phone interview.

“The victims of this censorship are history and the truth,” Butler said. “The end game is they’re going to make teaching civil rights into ‘critical race theory,’ and it’s not.”...........

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[insidejob]

I don’t understand this attitude towards the highly educated. I know that there are many intelligent people that don’t go to Ivys and many that don’t even go to college, but it’s dumb not to be impressed with their graduates in general. They are among the smartest people in the world.

It's just another reason for angry white people to be angry. And it's not like achieving the degree actually does anything for them. They still have to prove they are worth their salt when they graduate and enter the workforce. After they've done that, then their words, thoughts, ideas, suggestions carry some weight. Not just because they graduate from an Ivy do people look up to them.

 

[samiam5211]

After all, I am just an uneducated dumb redneck that needs to be told how to live by those above me. That is the Ivey League way after all.

Someone having a degree doesn't have anything to do with you.

Pointing out that someone has degree doesn't have anything to do with you.

Quit acting like someone having a degree is the same thing is calling you dumb. No one is saying that. If it makes you feel dumb, then that is coming from inside of you.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

Someone having a degree doesn't have anything to do with you.

Pointing out that someone has degree doesn't have anything to do with you.

Quit acting like someone having a degree is the same thing is calling you dumb. No one is saying that. If it makes you feel dumb, then that is coming from inside of you.

That's how the culture war works. You take people's insecurities or problems, define an "other", then comfort them by claiming their insecurities or problems don't come from them but external sources.

Rinse repeat. It's the very foundation of Trumpism.

 

[Farb]

Someone having a degree doesn't have anything to do with you.

Pointing out that someone has degree doesn't have anything to do with you.

Quit acting like someone having a degree is the same thing is calling you dumb. No one is saying that. If it makes you feel dumb, then that is coming from inside of you.

I have degrees too! I just don't expect people to care of be awed by what school I went to.
You can be excited about if you want, but deep down, we were all pulling for Will Hunting in the exchange with the typical Harvard guy in the bar. So to act like my aversion to smug schools and their ridiculous expensive education is tied to jealousy or something like that is lazy when it is actually 100% American. We always pull for the underdog.

The novel 'The Boys in the Boat' would not have been a very good book if everyone naturally pulled for the Elite rowing schools.

 

[Farb]

That's how the culture war works. You take people's insecurities or problems, define an "other", then comfort them by claiming their insecurities or problems don't come from them but external sources.

Rinse repeat. It's the very foundation of Trumpism.

Trumpism or leftism? You guys love the boxes.

 

[brandon]

That's how the culture war works. You take people's insecurities or problems, define an "other", then comfort them by claiming their insecurities or problems don't come from them but external sources.

Rinse repeat. It's the very foundation of Trumpism.

Trumpism or leftism? You guys love the boxes.

Let's ask 1930s Germany what their playbook was.

 

[insidejob]

Let's ask 1930s Germany what their playbook was.

Or ask Trump. Ivana said in an interview that he slept with a book of Hitler's speeches on his nightstand for a good portion of their marriage. Whether or not he could actually pay attention long enough to get through an entire speech is another topic altogether, but I'm sure she'd have read them to him when he asked.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

And most of those will go on to serve in politics/lobby/law, so there is half the problem with our 'elites'
If you expect me to be awed by a Ivy league education, you will be disappointed. The left ideology is steeped in those institutions so I have no respect for those kind of people.
After all, I am just an uneducated dumb redneck that needs to be told how to live by those above me. That is the Ivey League way after all.

My friend, all of that is just nonsense.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Or ask Trump. Ivana said in an interview that he slept with a book of Hitler's speeches on his nightstand for a good portion of their marriage. Whether or not he could actually pay attention long enough to get through an entire speech is another topic altogether, but I'm sure she'd have read them to him when he asked.

Trump's love of Putin:

Trump’s Former Russia Guru Explains His Putin Complex​

A conversation with Fiona Hill about the Russia-Ukraine crisis, Putin's next move, and where the White House goes from here.​

..........................................................snip............................................

You and I have spoken about this before, but what was it about Putin that Trump liked so much?

It’s the badass that he thinks Putin is, the guy who struts the world stage, doesn’t care, doesn’t have any checks and balances, can do whatever he wants. Fabulously rich, powerful, strong. Think about all the ways Trump always just described him. In Helsinki, Trump said, He’s been very strong and very powerful.

Is it that he wants to be like Putin?

He makes it very clear. And the people around him know he wants that. It’s not just that he wants to emulate that, though. It’s that he thinks that’s what he is, and he wants to sit down with people who reflect his own image of himself. And that’s Putin.

https://puck.news/fiona-hill-explains-his-putin-complex/

 

[dtc]

And most of those will go on to serve in politics/lobby/law, so there is half the problem with our 'elites'
If you expect me to be awed by a Ivy league education, you will be disappointed. The left ideology is steeped in those institutions so I have no respect for those kind of people.
After all, I am just an uneducated dumb redneck that needs to be told how to live by those above me. That is the Ivey League way after all.

Ted Cruz was at Princeton at the same time I was. And, for what it's worth, I was never exposed to any sort of attempt to indoctrinate me into any ideology as I'm sure neither was Ted. Ron Desantis went to Harvard. Trump went to Fordham and Wharton.

Proportionally, very Ivy grads are in politics and nowhere near "most" of us are lawyers or lobbyists.