Critical race theory (8 Viewers)

[DaveXA]

Frankly, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to the Critical Race Theory curriculum. What is it, where does it come from, and is it legitimate? Has anyone here read it and maybe give a quick summary?

If this has been covered in another thread, then I missed it.

 

[Farb]

That’s exactly what I said —you guys believe it’s any conversation about race where white people get their feelings hurt. If white people can in any way feel aggrieved or made to feel bad or somehow claim victimhood, then it’s CRT right?

Why should white people feel bad or aggrieved?

 

[V Chip]

Why should white people feel bad or aggrieved?

I dunno, ask them why any discussion on race makes them feel that way.

Why is it when teaching about government-approved redlining, or Jim Crow laws, or virulent opposition to the Civil Rights movement, or the Southern Strategy of Republicans, or differing outcomes/sentences for the same crimes based on skin color alone, or denial of jobs/credit based on the ethnicity of names on applications with similar information, or that the GI Bill wasn't fully available to blacks for decades -- why do a certain segment of white people feel guilty or aggrieved when those factual, historical things are taught in schools?

 

[samiam5211]

No, it is setting up children to become victims or feel guilty over some thing they have no control over (skin color). It also helps in creating and maintaining identity politics which will be the down fall of this country. But the Dems get to win an election here or there.

You say it will make white kids feel guilty over their skin color. Why do you keep saying that?

I am 100% bought in to all the woke crap, and wish they were teaching CRT in high schools. I have never felt guilty over having benefitted from white privilege my entire life.

Perhaps it is exactly the ignorance of white privilege that you exhibit that is responsible for the guilt. Maybe better education on the topic is exactly what our kids need to prevent feeling guilty.

 

[brandon]

You say it will make white kids feel guilty over their skin color. Why do you keep saying that?

Because white people in the past did bad things and he feels bad that he kinda gets why they did it.

 

[JRad]

You say it will make white kids feel guilty over their skin color. Why do you keep saying that?

I am 100% bought in to all the woke crap, and wish they were teaching CRT in high schools. I have never felt guilty over having benefitted from white privilege my entire life.

Perhaps it is exactly the ignorance of white privilege that you exhibit that is responsible for the guilt. Maybe better education on the topic is exactly what our kids need to prevent feeling guilty.

+1 - never felt guilty about it. There is a lot of gut wrenching stuff in our countries past, and I empathize with the people these things happened to, and those still feeling those effects today. However, I do not feel personal guilt over it.

 

[Farb]

I dunno, ask them why any discussion on race makes them feel that way.

Why is it when teaching about government-approved redlining, or Jim Crow laws, or virulent opposition to the Civil Rights movement, or the Southern Strategy of Republicans, or differing outcomes/sentences for the same crimes based on skin color alone, or denial of jobs/credit based on the ethnicity of names on applications with similar information, or that the GI Bill wasn't fully available to blacks for decades -- why do a certain segment of white people feel guilty or aggrieved when those factual, historical things are taught in schools?

I learned all of that in school. My kid is and has learned that in school. Why do you think that is not taught?
The southern strategy. Is that where the parties decided to switch teams but no one actually switch parties?

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I learned all of that in school. My kid is and has learned that in school. Why do you think that is not taught?
The southern strategy. Is that where the parties decided to switch teams but no one actually switch parties?

Do you believe that the Southern Strategy is not a real thing?

 

[V Chip]

I learned all of that in school. My kid is and has learned that in school. Why do you think that is not taught?
The southern strategy. Is that where the parties decided to switch teams but no one actually switch parties?

I’m glad you learned all that in school. Honestly most school districts don’t teach most of any of that. That is what people are complaining about when they say “don’t teach CRT!!”

And do you honestly not know what the Southern Strategy is?

 

[Farb]

Do you believe that the Southern Strategy is not a real thing?

Do you believe it a real thing?

 

[Farb]

I’m glad you learned all that in school. Honestly most school districts don’t teach most of any of that. That is what people are complaining about when they say “don’t teach CRT!!”

And do you honestly not know what the Southern Strategy is?

I went to a religious school as well! And that is not what the vast majority of parents are upset with the schools about.

Yes, I am aware of the southern strategy theory.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Do you believe it a real thing?

I know it to be real. It's not a secret or anything. It's well-documented.

 

[bird]

I went to a religious school as well! And that is not what the vast majority of parents are upset with the schools about.

Yes, I am aware of the southern strategy theory.

It ain’t a theory.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I know it to be real. It's not a secret or anything. It's well-documented.

How about you? Do you think the Southern Strategy is something that really happened?

 

[Farb]

How about you? Do you think the Southern Strategy is something that really happened?

What do you think the southern strategy is?

 

[MT15]

It’s well documented. From the person who thought it up. From wiki:

In American politics, the Southern strategywas a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans.[1][2][3] As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party. It also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right.[4]

 

[cuddlemonkey]

What do you think the southern strategy is?

As MT said above, it was a massive shift in the Democratic and Republican parties that had been brewing for a long time and came to a head during the Civil Rights movement. White southern Democrats, disaffected by the national party's stance on civil rights espoused by the "elitist" Democrats like the Kennedys, were courted by the Republican party. It's how the southern United States became a Republican stronghold.

Do you deny that this actually happened?

 

[Farb]

I do not believe it happened. How many congressmen swapped 'sides'? If it was massive, then shouldn't we be able to see that in the elections especially for President?

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I do not believe it happened. How many congressmen swapped 'sides'? If it was massive, then shouldn't we be able to see that in the elections especially for President?

Lee Atwater talked about it on the record as a thing that definitively happened and a look at the electoral maps for presidential elections would show you. Why do you refuse to believe something that is admitted to by people responsible for implementing it?