Critical race theory (6 Viewers)

[DaveXA]

Frankly, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to the Critical Race Theory curriculum. What is it, where does it come from, and is it legitimate? Has anyone here read it and maybe give a quick summary?

If this has been covered in another thread, then I missed it.

 

[CoolBrees]

Nobody says you have to have a horrendous job. Nobody says you have to put food on the table. Hell, nobody’s says you have to have a table.

Slavery? You never cease to unimpress

 

[Paul]

Nobody says you have to have a horrendous job. Nobody says you have to put food on the table. Hell, nobody’s says you have to have a table.

Slavery? You never cease to unimpress

The mechanisms of defense by the collective is impressive. It is the MO to avoid a simple discussion. Only Rob and MT have the audacity to speak.

 

[CoolBrees]

You equated working a job in America to slavery.

That drivel shouldnt be dignified with a response other than to mock it.

 

[samiam5211]

Nobody says you have to have a horrendous job. Nobody says you have to put food on the table. Hell, nobody’s says you have to have a table.

Slavery? You never cease to unimpress

I dunno, i think plenty of homeless people who get arrested for "trespassing" would say different.

Capitalism is slavery. It isn't legal to live the hunter/gather lifestyle in the US. Everything is owned by someone, you can't eat without stealing from someone.

 

[CoolBrees]

@samiam5211 - You have obviously never been to Portland then

We have people living freely everywhere that isn’t private property. Parks, sidewalks, you name it.
We decriminalized all drugs.
Our police stopped policing 6 months ago because they are babies and don’t want to be held responsible for their actions. So they have more or less stopped responding to calls

Here you are absolutely free to do as you wish. Crime has not risen precipitously. We have problems but we do not criminalize houselessness

 

[samiam5211]

You have obviously never been to Portland then sam.

We have people living freely everywhere that isn’t private property. Parks, sidewalks, you name it.
We decriminalized all drugs.
Our police stopped policing 6 months ago because they are babies and don’t want to be held responsible for their actions. So they have more or less stopped responding to calls

Here you are absolutely free to do as you wish. Crime has not risen precipitously. We have problems but we do not criminalize houselessness

They may not be arresting anyone, but i suspect they are still in violation of more than a couple of laws.

I have a feeling that is someone was killing and roasting squirrels they find in the park in Portland, that they would start making arrests.

 

[RobF]

I agree, but slaving away at a horrendous job to keep food in the table is an accepted figure of speech.

You're referring to wage slavery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery

I think the problem is you seem to be applying it to all employment, whereas it's generally used to refer to low-wage employment often in poor conditions where the employed has no other meaningfully different alternative employment options, and has to accept the work regardless due to the need to pay rent, etc.

Applying it to all employment could be seen to trivialise actual slavery. The conditions I work in, for example, are nothing like slavery, and I have genuine options, should I choose to explore them.

But the concept of wage slavery and its relationship to actual slavery is a thing. The Wikipedia article cites Frederick Douglass: "Experience demonstrates that there may be a slavery of wages only a little less galling and crushing in its effects than chattel slavery, and that this slavery of wages must go down with the other." You'll note the qualifiers though - a slavery of wages, this slavery of wages, not wages in general.

 

[CoolBrees]

@samiam5211 - No we do not have a vagrancy law- we removed it.

Those with tents or tarps in parks are free to stay as long as their area is not a health issue. If they cause a health issue they are given 30 days to vacate just like any other eviction.

We also have at least 8 kitchens that feed them.

And we only roast locally sourced farm squirrels so it isn’t a problem

 

[samiam5211]

You're referring to wage slavery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery

I think the problem is you seem to be applying it to all employment, whereas it's generally used to refer to low-wage employment often in poor conditions where the employed has no other meaningfully different alternative employment options, and has to accept the work regardless due to the need to pay rent, etc.

Applying it to all employment could be seen to trivialise actual slavery. The conditions I work in, for example, are nothing like slavery, and I have genuine options, should I choose to explore them.

But the concept of wage slavery and its relationship to actual slavery is a thing. The Wikipedia article cites Frederick Douglass: "Experience demonstrates that there may be a slavery of wages only a little less galling and crushing in its effects than chattel slavery, and that this slavery of wages must go down with the other." You'll note the qualifiers though - a slavery of wages, this slavery of wages, not wages in general.

Paul finally starts to embrace Marxism, and you try to talk him out of it...

 

[Paul]

You're referring to wage slavery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery

I think the problem is you seem to be applying it to all employment, whereas it's generally used to refer to low-wage employment often in poor conditions where the employed has no other meaningfully different alternative employment options, and has to accept the work regardless due to the need to pay rent, etc.

Applying it to all employment could be seen to trivialise actual slavery. The conditions I work in, for example, are nothing like slavery, and I have genuine options, should I choose to explore them.

But the concept of wage slavery and its relationship to actual slavery is a thing. The Wikipedia article cites Frederick Douglass: "Experience demonstrates that there may be a slavery of wages only a little less galling and crushing in its effects than chattel slavery, and that this slavery of wages must go down with the other." You'll note the qualifiers though - a slavery of wages, this slavery of wages, not wages in general.

I agree Rob. Thanks for your contribution!

I have also been blessed for having an enjoyable job. I could retire at any time and have a hard time walking away. It has been fun!

I do not mind the concept of UBI for those with unsatisfying jobs. Let the machines take over.

 

[Farb]

When I was younger, I really hoped I would get the chance to be a slave like Kapernick. He is still working out to be one again. Lucky man to still have that dream.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports...-likens-nfl-draft-slavery-no-dignity-rcna4312

 

[MT15]

This is the conservative political activist who has taken CRT and purposefully made it into something it is not. It was calculated propaganda. He admits it freely.

 

[Paul]

You equated working a job in America to slavery.

That drivel shouldnt be dignified with a response other than to mock it.

If you have to work for someone else to survive---------If that person sets your hours and how much you earn that is a form of slavery or servitude. I say this not because i am proposing socialism. I am just making an observation.

 

[Farb]

This is the conservative political activist who has taken CRT and purposefully made it into something it is not. It was calculated propaganda. He admits it freely.

I think you missed the key word: 'cultural insanities'.
If it doesn't react well to sunlight, it should not be indoctrinated into children in a public school system. Anti-White racism is still racism, now matter how many times you say it is not.
Rufo has put them on their heels by just doing actual journalism. Good on him.

 

[Farb]

If you have to work for someone else to survive---------If that person sets your hours and how much you earn that is a form of slavery or servitude. I say this not because i am proposing socialism. I am just making an observation.

Free market. You can go work where ever you like for as much pay and as little and much as your service demands.

 

[Paul]

Free market. You can go work where ever you like for as much pay and as little and much as your service demands.

I do not disagree and as a capitalist I fully understand this is the best we have. However, I am just making an observation.

 

[SystemShock]

Capitalism is slavery.

No, it is not.

It isn't legal to live the hunter/gather lifestyle in the US.

Yes, it is.

 

[samiam5211]

Yes, it is.

Where? Can i live in a national park and live off the land?