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    Figured we should start a separate thread on the arrests and those involved in the storming of the Capitol. I know it has been talked about in the other thread a lot, but for the ones who just want to follow the ones arrested and/or charged, this will be an easier way to see updates on the investigations.

    Link below is everyone who has been arrested. But we know there will be more.

    The website seems to be updated with new information daily.

    The ones who are getting the most air time:


    Jake Angeli
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    Adam Johnson
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    Richard Barnett
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    Kevin Seefried
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    Eric Gavelek Munchel
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    Larry R. Brock
    Lisa Eisenhart
    Robert Keith Packer
    Klete Keller
    Aaron Mostofsky
    Anthime Joseph Gionet
    Peter Francis Stager
    Christine Priola
     
    Cawthorn is a liar, so he’s just doing what liars do. 🤷‍♀️
     
    Maryland man arrested in U.S. Capitol riots, was placed at scene by GPS monitor required by his probation, FBI says.

    I sure hope this guy doesn't have kids. He does not need to be spreading his genes...
    And the dumb get dumber...

    yan Betancur, 26, who was wearing a GPS monitoring device as part of his probation stemming from a burglary conviction in Maryland, apparently posted photos on social media of him wearing white nationalist apparel and posing with a Confederate battle flag perched atop scaffolding on Capitol grounds, according to an affidavit filed by an FBI agent.
     
    A sad story...

    “If you turn me in, you’re a traitor and you know what happens to traitors … traitors get shot,” Reffitt, 48, said to his son and daughter, according to his wife, who recounted the conversation to the FBI, which did not name the relatives.

    In an interview with KXAS, Reffitt’s son, who is 18, said his father has become increasingly obsessed with politics over the past four years. His son blamed President Trump for manipulating his father.
    “I love him but I hate him,” he said of his father. “I don’t really know him anymore.”

    How many families and how many lives has Trump and his enablers destroyed...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/19/capitol-rioter-reffitt-threaten-children/
     
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    Beverly Hills Salon Owner Arrested for Alleged Involvement in Capitol Riot
    woman believed to be Bisignano, who owns Gina’s Eyelashes and Skincare on North Camden Drive, was taped yelling to those breaking into the Capitol, “Everybody, we need gas masks, we need weapons. We need strong, angry patriots to help our boys, they don’t want to leave. We need protection.

     
    There's a good running page here that posts those arrested as it happens along with the criminal filing docs against them...

     
    I feel fortunate - my dad, in his 70s, loathes Trump. My younger sisters and my brother, especially, are Trump supporters. Dad and I scream and curse about Trump and I love it. We've actually gotten closer over Trump, which seems rare - as polarizing as he is, these stories seem to go the other way.
     
    This morning one of the guys who works for me said the FBI and Local Police were at his neighbors house. 6 or 7 cars and lots of agents. I’m guessing somebody was at the capitol a couple weeks ago.
     
    Protests is not the same as insurrection - don't use the same word for both situations - they are NOT equal

    And NO - in Seattle police used mace against peacefull demonstrators and abducted people who they suspected of having participated in the protests in unmarked cars without any arrest warrants around the city. So NO

    The Seattle Autonomous Zone was NOT a protest. Well, it may have started as one, but once the Zone was established, and the police withdrawn from the Police Station, it became an insurrection in the literal meaning of the term. It lasted for about 3 weeks before the police where FINALLY ordered to clear it following rising violence and murders in the Zone, as well as destruction of property.

    When it was finally cleared, about 23 people where initially arrested by local police. However, I can't find any references to them being charged ? Nor where there any charges over the two murdered teenagers, or the other three people seriously injured by gunfire.

    Compare this to the manhunt by the FBI for the Capitol protests ?

    Granted, the Capitol Building was MUCH higher profile than the (much larger) Seattle Autonomous Zone and - of course - the Seattle Autonomous Zone wasn't under FBI jurisdiction. However, I find the difference in law enforcement interesting.
     
    The Seattle Autonomous Zone was NOT a protest. Well, it may have started as one, but once the Zone was established, and the police withdrawn from the Police Station, it became an insurrection in the literal meaning of the term. It lasted for about 3 weeks before the police where FINALLY ordered to clear it following rising violence and murders in the Zone, as well as destruction of property.

    When it was finally cleared, about 23 people where initially arrested by local police. However, I can't find any references to them being charged ? Nor where there any charges over the two murdered teenagers, or the other three people seriously injured by gunfire.

    Compare this to the manhunt by the FBI for the Capitol protests ?

    Granted, the Capitol Building was MUCH higher profile than the (much larger) Seattle Autonomous Zone and - of course - the Seattle Autonomous Zone wasn't under FBI jurisdiction. However, I find the difference in law enforcement interesting.

    What was the goal of the people in the CHAZ? Was it to overthrow their duly elected government? It's not hard to grok why one is labeled a protest, and the other an insurrection.

    There is no whataboutism you can try and pull on this one. It will not work. These people showed up wanting to kill elected officials, and erected gallows on Capitol grounds. It was also extremely violent with 5 deaths resulting from a few hours of carnage.

    This post should be in some kind of hall of fame. We have truly reached the Mount Everest of conservative victimhood. "Sure we tried to overthrow the government, but why is the FBI arresting us, and not BLM?!?!?"
     
    The Seattle Autonomous Zone was NOT a protest. Well, it may have started as one, but once the Zone was established, and the police withdrawn from the Police Station, it became an insurrection in the literal meaning of the term. It lasted for about 3 weeks before the police where FINALLY ordered to clear it following rising violence and murders in the Zone, as well as destruction of property.

    When it was finally cleared, about 23 people where initially arrested by local police. However, I can't find any references to them being charged ? Nor where there any charges over the two murdered teenagers, or the other three people seriously injured by gunfire.

    Compare this to the manhunt by the FBI for the Capitol protests ?

    Granted, the Capitol Building was MUCH higher profile than the (much larger) Seattle Autonomous Zone and - of course - the Seattle Autonomous Zone wasn't under FBI jurisdiction. However, I find the difference in law enforcement interesting.
    I would suggest you seriously think about where you're getting your information from, because your description above is wildly inaccurate.

    The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone was definitively an occupational protest, with specific demands (defunding Seattle's police by 50%, shifting funding to community health and safety, amnesty for arrested protestors). It became a so-called 'autonomous zone' because the police withdrew from the police station, but it was very obviously not a serious attempt to establish an actual, permanent, autonomous zone, which is why they called it the Capitol Hill Organized Protest.

    It was already significantly scaled down by the time the police cleared the relatively few remaining protesters. At that point, 44 people were arrested during the day, with 25 more arrested into the night, not '23'.

    There absolutely were charges related to crimes committed in and around the CHOP. Nikolas Fernandez was charged with first degree assault after driving into a crowd of protestors, Isaiah Willoughby was charged with arson, Marcel Long was charged with the shooting of Lorenzo Anderson...

    So I would strongly suggest you seriously reflect upon where you got the impression you have above from, and why you were confident such a highly inaccurate account was right when it was, clearly, not.

    And as @J-DONK says, neither the inaccurate view you outline above nor the reality can be seriously held to be comparable to a mob literally storming the United States Capitol, assaulting reporters and police (resulting in deaths), forcing the evacuation of the threatened Senate and House of Representatives, with the intent of overturning a legitimate election.
     
    I would suggest you seriously think about where you're getting your information from






    I think this is the crux of the issue, and it’s extremely problematic.. i dont know how we as a country even address it, becuase one “side” (as much as i hate that term) literally cant distinguish reality from utter lying garbage for profit... Of course, that side says the same exact thing about the other “side”.. but only one can be correct.. there is no middle ground, no room for compromise when mere reality is absent on one side.
     
    I think this is the crux of the issue, and it’s extremely problematic.. i dont know how we as a country even address it, becuase one “side” (as much as i hate that term) literally cant distinguish reality from utter lying garbage for profit... Of course, that side says the same exact thing about the other “side”.. but only one can be correct.. there is no middle ground, no room for compromise when mere reality is absent on one side.

    That my friend is the fairness doctrine .

    Ronald Reagan did plenty of horrendous things but repealing that gave birth to the problems we have today
     
    A co workers was talking about this too. I said there is a difference (where you like it or not) between burning down a Target and storming the Capitol.
    I asked her, If one guy breaks into a house and shoots the homeowner in the leg, he will probably get arrested and charged with attempted murder and do some time.
    If another guy breaks into the White House and shoots Trump in the leg, do you think they will both get the same penalty or do you think the guy who shot Trump would get a much harsher charge and never see daylight again?
    "well, of course, he's the president"...
     
    A co workers was talking about this too. I said there is a difference (where you like it or not) between burning down a Target and storming the Capitol.
    I asked her, If one guy breaks into a house and shoots the homeowner in the leg, he will probably get arrested and charged with attempted murder and do some time.
    If another guy breaks into the White House and shoots Trump in the leg, do you think they will both get the same penalty or do you think the guy who shot Trump would get a much harsher charge and never see daylight again?
    "well, of course, he's the president"...

    did you see a dawning of realization in her eyes?
     
    The Seattle Autonomous Zone was NOT a protest. Well, it may have started as one, but once the Zone was established, and the police withdrawn from the Police Station, it became an insurrection in the literal meaning of the term. It lasted for about 3 weeks before the police where FINALLY ordered to clear it following rising violence and murders in the Zone, as well as destruction of property.

    When it was finally cleared, about 23 people where initially arrested by local police. However, I can't find any references to them being charged ? Nor where there any charges over the two murdered teenagers, or the other three people seriously injured by gunfire.

    Compare this to the manhunt by the FBI for the Capitol protests ?

    Granted, the Capitol Building was MUCH higher profile than the (much larger) Seattle Autonomous Zone and - of course - the Seattle Autonomous Zone wasn't under FBI jurisdiction. However, I find the difference in law enforcement interesting.
    I think you just explained the difference. Federal vs city/state.

    Also, I don't recall, did the Seattle Autonomous Zone actually take over a government building, or surround them?

    edit: And what everyone else said.
     

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