Canada bans assault weapons after mass shooting in Nova Scotia
Canada bans assault weapons after mass shooting in Nova Scotia
abcnews.go.com
Pretty big news..
That is to say they will ban weapons they seem as such.
What are your thoughts?
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Yeah, and after that 6,000 Danes immediately volunteered for the Danish Free Korps of the Waffen SS and the Nazis used them for cannon fodder against the Russians. Not many survived.The other day a poster defended Denmark's lack of resistance to the Nazi invasion of that country by stating that Germany had not issued a declaration of war beforehand. People have to be more responsible than to walk around with that type of mentality.
Generally, I think you need to look at it as a multi-decade problem, where you try to reduce the number of felons from owning weapons, while allowing people access to tools they should be able to use to keep themselves safe.
I disagree with this. If someone has paid their debt and let out of prison, all rights should be restored. If they can't own a firearm for protection because they are too dangerous, then why are they back on the street? A non violent ex con should be able to own a firearm with no questions asked.
OK.Sorry, I phrased it poorly -- I mean people who are currently committing felonies. Reduce the probability that they can access a powerful first strike capability.
OK.
I think it's impossible to reduce their access when they are getting them off the black market or stealing them.
Yes. We should be allowed to own at minimum every weapon available to LE.
You can't. Go about your life. Government can't protect you from dying. If someone wants you dead, then you will probably die. The odds are heavily against that happening so sleep good tonight.
Trudeau better be glad he is Canadian because his soy wouldn't make it here.
That's exactly what I'm saying. How much stricter do you want to get for the illusion of safety?Everyone knows you can't fix it, just as you cant completely fix anything.
Are you inferring that we shouldn't have stricter gun laws because a person will do what they want ultimately?
That's exactly what I'm saying. How much stricter do you want to get for the illusion of safety?
We have enough regulations already and it's done nothing to stop gun violence. It's time to start looking at something else besides metal and plastic.
Let's ban everything that causes death and get that out of the way. Cars, water, hand tools, cigarettes, you name it.
I want to reduce the number of people killed by gun violence. That’s it.You want to regulate everyone's lives. I don't.
I hope the conservatives find this to be at least a reasonable position, because as about as far left a liberal as I am, I agree with it 100%. I hope there’s some common ground to be had here.I really feel like these debates miss the point.
I fee like it should be a discussion on the trade-offs between human life and human freedom. Guns are tools designed to kill. That is their primary focus and they are a very effective tool for killing. Reducing the capability of people to kill will reduce the number of people who die. It will never eliminate it, b/c humans are remarkable inventive in figuring out ways to kill. But the harder you make it to killing someone, the fewer people will die.
On the flip side of it, the harder you make it for people who might be weaker physically to access tools to defend themselves, the more likely they are likely to be afraid and intimidated by who have more power. So taking tools away from them, reduces their freedom to some degree.
So, how do you balance it out?
Generally, I think you need to look at it as a multi-decade problem, where you try to reduce the number of idiots and felons from owning weapons, while allowing people access to tools they should be able to use to keep themselves safe.
That’s why I said I supported the buyback component of what Canada is doing, just as I’ve consistently supported buyback programs in the past. The cat is most definitely out of the bag, and it will take a lot of time and money to get it back in the bag. But it can, and should, be done.OK.
I think it's impossible to reduce their access when they are getting them off the black market or stealing them.
By that line of logic, we shouldn't have many of the laws we have today simply because people occasionally 'do what they want' and commit atrocities. Is that exactly what you're saying too?
You see how that train of thought starts to become problematic.
Maybe you could expound on that.
The 2nd amendment wasn't designed to be regulated. It was so we would be able to fight tyranny.Out of curiosity, what if any gun control measures would you enact were you making the law?
It’s literally the only amendment with the word “regulated” in it.The 2nd amendment wasn't designed to be regulated.
Militia.It’s literally the only amendment with the word “regulated” in it.
Let’s go ahead and read that full quote, shall we?Militia.
......Right to bear arms Shall not be infringed
So let’s be clear—your right to keep and bear arms exists because it makes you PART of the militia that is necessary to the security of a free state.A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Now you’re just ranting like Karen’s grandpa on Facebook.A free state means we shouldn't be limited on our means to over take a tyrannical government state or federal. It's clear as day that this isn't about saving lives. It's about power and if we give up the little we have left that dwindles by the day, there is absolutely no point in freedom. We need to just get it over with and go full Socialist /Communist. Get it over with. Let the government dictate our every move. This is exactly what you want.
The 2nd amendment wasn't designed to be regulated. It was so we would be able to fight tyranny.
We need laws but if we give up the 2nd, we will lose the first and all the rest.
That's linked to children. They aren't allowed to purchase firearms. My kids have a rifle. They both know how handle firearms and neither of them will play with it because they know that they can take somebody's life with it. They have shot my 9mm at 6 years old.
Children die because they are curious. Teach them what a firearm is, gun safety and how to use it, and there will be alot less deaths in the household. It wasn't long ago children hunted on their own.
You probably think it's crazy but we didn't have near the lunatics back then and they could own every firearm imaginable.
But forget about the above. It won't happen. Now we have a few crazy people that decide to kill a few citizens and we need to start looking at the instrument instead of the person and the why? No reason to figure out how to stop them, let's start taking everyone's toys away.