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    I have a feeling anyone would have done this differently than this administration. Our allies responses show this was a mistake and not planned at all really. Now we have dead US Marines and a Corpsman.
    I think my little niece could have planned this better especially since it seems like it was not planned at all, except by China.

    I just hope this doesn't lead to impeachment/resignation, because this senile kid sniffer is all that stand in the way of a short but policy packed Harris cluster.
    I see your desire to engage more honestly and not just ruffle feathers was short lived. It’s a shame because when you do that it always leads to quality discussion and productive disagreement.
     
    Well, no, he is not “beholden” to China. That’s just more bizarro world talk.
     
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...growing-relations-with-the-taliban/ar-AANCh7Z

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/23/chi...with-afghanistan-are-tricky-analysts-say.html

    The old man is beholden to China, much like Trump was beholden to Russia, right?

    Also pretty telling that this is what you want to discuss.

    Oh let's play this game. This withdraw on the U.S. side was signed, and sealed by *drumroll* Donald Trump!

    Is there any evidence that Trump could be beholden to China? I think so.



     
    https://www.the-sun.com/news/3564853/biden-slammed-checking-watch-kabul-heroes-nap-time/

    Maybe he was checking time to see what time his drone strike would kill innocent kids? I am sure the fact checkers have already run their PR campaigns.

    This poor guy is lost and I hope the Reps in office are smart enough to never, never allow him to leave office early through impeachment or 25th. He needs to finish his 4 years if nothing else, so we can have empathy (only for some obviously) and nice twitter tweets.
     
    https://www.the-sun.com/news/3564853/biden-slammed-checking-watch-kabul-heroes-nap-time/

    Maybe he was checking time to see what time his drone strike would kill innocent kids? I am sure the fact checkers have already run their PR campaigns.

    This poor guy is lost and I hope the Reps in office are smart enough to never, never allow him to leave office early through impeachment or 25th. He needs to finish his 4 years if nothing else, so we can have empathy (only for some obviously) and nice twitter tweets.
    Scandalous.

    If he had been wearing a tan suit when he checked his watch, it would have been the end of the Republic.

    If this is what you are concerned about, your priorities are wrong.
     
    Scandalous.

    If he had been wearing a tan suit when he checked his watch, it would have been the end of the Republic.

    If this is what you are concerned about, your priorities are wrong.
    it is not my priorities I am worried about, it is the POTUS priorities that appear wrong.
     
    Yea checking that watch was a big deal.
    For our current POTUS during a ceremony for the marines he just helped kill, yeah, I would say it is a big deal. But it is your guy, so ride or die, I guess.
     
    For our current POTUS during a ceremony for the marines he just helped kill, yeah, I would say it is a big deal. But it is your guy, so ride or die, I guess.
    He's not my guy. I think he's borderline senile. I still do prefer him to what the alternative was though.

    But him checking his watch is not a big deal. It doesn't have any meaningful impact on anything that matters.

    You are being petty.
     
    He's not my guy. I think he's borderline senile. I still do prefer him to what the alternative was though.

    But him checking his watch is not a big deal. It doesn't have any meaningful impact on anything that matters.

    You are being petty.

    I agree with everything you said, even me being petty.
     
    I agree with everything you said, even me being petty.

    Well, I'll be the dissenter here then.

    For a guy that prides himself on his empathy, that was a bad look. Don't check your watch at a funeral or any type of memorial and certainly don't do it when it's "your guys".

    I'm not saying it's some major scandal, but it is insulting to the families and the fallen and for Biden particularly a pretty surprising gaffe.
     
    Does it make a difference if he looked at his watch after the ceremony and not during it?


    The full video of the dignified transfer ceremony shows Biden honored each of the fallen U.S. service members. He appeared to check his watch after the ceremony ended.
     
    Does it make a difference if he looked at his watch after the ceremony and not during it?

    I didn't watch the whole video to see if you can see everything as it happens to verify or not, but seem like Biden wasn't in the frame the entire time to be able to know for sure, but here's what one of the fathers said:

    "That didn't happen just once. It happened on every single one that came out of that airplane. It happened on every single one of them. They would release the salute, and he would look down at his watch on every last one, all 13, he looked down at his watch," Hoover said.

    After watching a little more of the video, yeah you can't say that he didn't do it based just on that video there.
     
    It seems I remember reading that Biden sometimes wears a piece of Beau’s rosary around his wrist. Maybe he was glancing at it, if he did it consistently after each body was moved? If this one man can be believed anyway, I don’t think anyone else has said it happened more than once.

    Biden had both sons in the military, his is basically a military family. He’s a seasoned politician, used to being at various ceremonies. This isn’t his first time to be at a dignified transfer. It just doesn’t make sense to me that he would be callous about checking his watch.

    USA Today published a fact check saying it didn’t happen. 🤷‍♀️
     
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    https://www.the-sun.com/news/3564853/biden-slammed-checking-watch-kabul-heroes-nap-time/

    Maybe he was checking time to see what time his drone strike would kill innocent kids? I am sure the fact checkers have already run their PR campaigns.

    This poor guy is lost and I hope the Reps in office are smart enough to never, never allow him to leave office early through impeachment or 25th. He needs to finish his 4 years if nothing else, so we can have empathy (only for some obviously) and nice twitter tweets.
    Like clock work. The fact that people still take 'fact checkers' seriously is comical.
     
    Like clock work. The fact that people still take 'fact checkers' seriously is comical.

    If someone on this board were to independently fact check a claim and provide you with links to everything they researched and referenced in order to get to the truth in order for you to verify the check, would that suffice?
     
    The USA Today Fact Check appears to be based upon that same video from the Yahoo article, which appeared not at all definitive to me as you can't really see Biden at the point that he releases the salute (which is the point at which the father says he was checking his watch each time).
     
    That's a pretty low number

    President Biden’s approval rating dropped to 43 percent amid the fallout of the chaotic U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, according to an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll released Thursday.

    Biden’s new approval is six points below NPR’s August poll, which had the president’s approval rating at forty-nine percent.

    The president’s approval rating is largely driven by softening support among Democrats and Independents.

    Thirty-six percent of independents approve of the job Biden is doing, compared to 55 percent who disapprove. Meanwhile, 85 percent of Democrats approve of Biden’s job handling, compared to 13 percent who disapprove.
     

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