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[Farb]

For all the things related to the Biden/Harris Administration and their latest hits and misses

https://www.dailywire.com/news/whit...gedly-sexually-harassing-threatening-reporter

Interesting story, looks like 'only the best people' didn't stop with the new administration.

 

[Saintman2884]

Why do you not let parents take care of what their children are allowed to attend? Why do you believe every questionable source you read online? A regular drag show isn’t in any way sexually explicit, any more than any other concert. Why do you want to police how other people raise their kids?

Yeah, because right-wingers are the only ones reading radical, questionable sources or partisan, biased Internet media sources like Kos Kids, Jezebel, Code Pink, or Jacobin and believing them at face value?

Some parents are irresponsible, uninterested, or just careless about how they raise their children, how they take care of them, their too busy with their jobs or careers to be too concerned about what their kids might be doing or looking at the Internet or social media? If you witnessed one of your friends bringing his 5-6 year-old son or daughter into a rowdy restaurant or bar which has a reputation for swearing, public drunkenness, and profanity, would you call him out on it or wonder about their decision-making? Wouldn't you be embarassed if you witnessed some 45-year old suburban father, drunk off his arse, start swearing and behaving it a threatening, nasty way to other fans and getting into a fight in front of his 8-9 year-old kids in front of the Superdome after a Saints game and get arrested? That's one hell of a terrible example he's making.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

What is there to argue about?

I thought most folks post here to express themselves.

That is a valid point.
If @Farb wants to express himself...then go for it!

 

[MT15]

Yeah, because right-wingers are the only ones reading radical, questionable sources or partisan, biased Internet media sources like Kos Kids, Jezebel, Code Pink, or Jacobin and believing them at face value?

Some parents are irresponsible, uninterested, or just careless about how they raise their children, how they take care of them, their too busy with their jobs or careers to be too concerned about what their kids might be doing or looking at the Internet or social media? If you witnessed one of your friends bringing his 5-6 year-old son or daughter into a rowdy restaurant or bar which has a reputation for swearing, public drunkenness, and profanity, would you call him out on it or wonder about their decision-making? Wouldn't you be embarassed if you witnessed some 45-year old suburban father, drunk off his arse, start swearing and behaving it a threatening, nasty way to other fans and getting into a fight in front of his 8-9 year-old kids in front of the Superdome after a Saints game and get arrested? That's one hell of a terrible example he's making.

So you have missed the entire point. And your first paragraph is just simple whataboutism.

The issue here is that the right is attempting to outright ban drag shows on the flimsy reasoning that some parents allow their children to attend them. My point is that, absent any evidence that these drag shows are damaging children in any way, the right should butt out of people’s lives and allow them to make their own decisions for their families.

If you want to defend this banning of drag shows, have at it. Your post doesn’t address any of that and seems to really just distract from the discussion.

 

[Saintman2884]

So you have missed the entire point. And your first paragraph is just simple whataboutism.

The issue here is that the right is attempting to outright ban drag shows on the flimsy reasoning that some parents allow their children to attend them. My point is that, absent any evidence that these drag shows are damaging children in any way, the right should butt out of people’s lives and allow them to make their own decisions for their families.

If you want to defend this banning of drag shows, have at it. Your post doesn’t address any of that and seems to really just distract from the discussion.

Whataboutism that is actually true and has some legitimate points. Far-left wingers are just and can be just as dangerous, loony-tune nutters as any MAGA Trumpist politician. If we're being brutally honest, if we use George Santos as a typical MAGA-styled politician, he's ridiculous, idiotic but the extreme, sociopathic narcissicist level and scope of his dishonesty, lying, he strikes me more as a ridiculous, forking silly clown because clearly he's not good at even being a polarizing, pandering far-right idealogue, he's absolutely pathetic. Part of me believes that if Santos was running in a ruby-red deeply conservative district lets say in a state like Texas, Nebraska or Oklahoma, he wouldn't have to resort to lying or "wish-casting"--making up various, innumerable falsehoods about what he'd like to be or wishes he really was, where he wished he worked, went to school, etc. Those are what I like to call " wish-caster" liars and their usually easily unveiled as silly, idiotic, borderline sociopaths.


As long as drag shows aren't saying or making any physically, sexually, or verbally offensive or inappropriate like sexual risque, pornographic material, I have no problems nor any objections to kids seeing it, as long as its in the PG, PG-13 range.

 

[J-DONK]

Whataboutism that is actually true and has some legitimate points. Far-left wingers are just and can be just as dangerous, loony-tune nutters as any MAGA Trumpist politician.

I honestly can't think of a left wing terrorist in the last two decades other then the baseball game. Was there a plethora of left wing terrorism I missed?

Are you talking about policy instead? What is the "far-left" then? Fringe communist groups not represented in government at all? The far left in congress wants America to more closely model the broader West in Europe. You can disagree with their opinion, but dangerous? Do you think it's dangerous if America ended up with the GDP per capita of Germany, or Belgium? We would see a drop of 5-15% in overall productivity. We already know the answer.

How many conservatives arguing about drag shows are ok with kids shooting guns?

 

[brandon]

Far-left wingers are just and can be just as dangerous, loony-tune nutters as any MAGA Trumpist politician.

if we use George Santos as a typical MAGA-styled politician

Alright, I’ll bite. Which far-left loony-tune nutter are you referring to that is equivalent to George Santos?

 

[UriUT]

I honestly can't think of a left wing terrorist in the last two decades other then the baseball game. Was there a plethora of left wing terrorism I missed?

Are you talking about policy instead? What is the "far-left" then? Fringe communist groups not represented in government at all? The far left in congress wants America to more closely model the broader West in Europe. You can disagree with their opinion, but dangerous? Do you think it's dangerous if America ended up with the GDP per capita of Germany, or Belgium? We would see a drop of 5-15% in overall productivity. We already know the answer.

How many conservatives arguing about drag shows are ok with kids shooting guns?

Was it Brandon that I'm stealing "both sides" from? I mean not like 3/4 of the domestic violent terrorist crimes arent from right wingers, right? Just like oh "both parties are getting extreme". But when examined...oh wait, repubs moved 3 meters while dems moved a few inches. Both sides!!!!!

 

[J-DONK]

Was it Brandon that I'm stealing "both sides" from? I mean not like 3/4 of the domestic violent terrorist crimes arent from right wingers, right? Just like oh "both parties are getting extreme". But when examined...oh wait, repubs moved 3 meters while dems moved a few inches. Both sides!!!!!

The only thing I can honestly think of is riots. As in the right has riots like the failed coup/Charlottesville vs George Floyd. He was talking about politicians though. In that spectrum, the MAGA side would end democracy to install a dictator(they tried in a hilarious bad attempt) vs European socialism on the left. If you think those things are equal in danger then go get your head checked.

Conservatives like to pretend like universal healthcare, and worker rights would end the country. They try to pretend an outcome like Venezuela is actually feasible instead of you know a first world country in Europe. Would there probably be a drop gdp per capita? Sure, and you get 40 days a year minimum off work, and healthcare not tied to your job.

There is a huge danger in trying to false equivalence the two parties. Democrats have a lot faults. Republicans have tried to upend democracy. There is a fundamental difference here. The fact that the Republican base is dying off means they will either try again, or change the party completely. Which is more likely?

Republicans on this board can say I'm mischaracterizing the party. My response would be "You are what your record says you are."

 

[UriUT]

The only thing I can honestly think of is riots. As in the right has riots like the failed coup/Charlottesville vs George Floyd. He was talking about politicians though. In that spectrum, the MAGA side would end democracy to install a dictator(they tried in a hilarious bad attempt) vs European socialism on the left. If you think those things are equal in danger then go get your head checked.

Conservatives like to pretend like universal healthcare, and worker rights would end the country. They try to pretend an outcome like Venezuela is actually feasible instead of you know a first world country in Europe. Would there probably be a drop gdp per capita? Sure, and you get 40 days a year minimum off work, and healthcare not tied to your job.

There is a huge danger in trying to false equivalence the two parties. Democrats have a lot faults. Republicans have tried to upend democracy. There is a fundamental difference here. The fact that the Republican base is dying off means they will either try again, or change the party completely. Which is more likely?

Republicans on this board can say I'm mischaracterizing the party. My response would be "You are what your record says you are."

Right! Both sides arguments just excuse the bad acts. How does one even twist social demonstrations with a clear attack on our democracy. Funny as I type that...I realized that a family member calls Jan 6th a riot that went wrong. That just epitomizes what is wrong with that both sides/whataboutism.

 

[Farb]

What does this have to do with the green new deal?

fossil fuels are bad right?

 

[FullMonte]

fossil fuels are bad right?

I'm sure they are harmful to the environment. But, this talk about gas stoves is not about fossil fuels being bad for the environment. It's about a study that showed that homes with gas stoves saw a significantly higher rate of childhood asthma.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

I'm sure they are harmful to the environment. But, this talk about gas stoves is not about fossil fuels being bad for the environment. It's about a study that showed that homes with gas stoves saw a significantly higher rate of childhood asthma.

Yes...so any parent of a child with asthma is encouraged to do whatever is needed to help their child.
No government should create a law that would forbid all its citizens from using gas stoves.

 

[MT15]

Yes...so any parent of a child with asthma is encouraged to do whatever is needed to help their child.
No government should create a law that would forbid all its citizens from using gas stoves.

And that was never on the table. The most that was talked about was a gradual phase out. Rs who said otherwise were not being honest.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

And that was never on the table. The most that was talked about was a gradual phase out. Rs who said otherwise were not being honest.

Really? I'm glad to learn that from you. Thank you.

 

[FullMonte]

Yes...so any parent of a child with asthma is encouraged to do whatever is needed to help their child.
No government should create a law that would forbid all its citizens from using gas stoves.

And the parents of children who died in car accidents was no reason to force everyone to have a seatbelt. Or cancer deaths was no reason to restrict where people could smoke.

Oh…and for clarification…what about the parents whose children DEVELOPED asthma because of a gas stove? What steps should those parents have taken when their children did not have asthma?

 

[MT15]

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

And the parents of children who died in car accidents was no reason to force everyone to have a seatbelt. Or cancer deaths was no reason to restrict where people could smoke.

Oh…and for clarification…what about the parents whose children DEVELOPED asthma because of a gas stove? What steps should those parents have taken when their children did not have asthma?

This is the specialty of the liberals such as yourself.
Twisting common sense stuff to justify governmental over reach.
People SHOULD wear a seat belt because it is proven to save lives. I support that.
Yet on the real topic at hand...
Millions of Americans are living in a home in with there are no children.
They have lived there for decades.
Would it be ok with you if they continue to heat up their frozen corn on their gas cook top?
Seriously!

 

[brandon]

This is the specialty of the liberals such as yourself.
Twisting common sense stuff to justify governmental over reach.

It's a legitimate question you failed to answer.

It's a liberal specialty to recognize that not all problems are black and white. There are shades of gray. Nuance.