Biden stepping down - now what? (2 Viewers)

[zztop]

I feel like this deserves a separate topic.
What will be the plan for the DNC?
How will this all shake out?

 

[LA - L.A.]

Over the past 24 hours, MAGA world has coalesced remarkably quickly around a shared reaction to the news that President Joe Biden will not seek reelection: It’s saying that the race was stolen from Biden.

“The people who called us a threat to Democracy for years just ran a coup against the sitting President,” declared @libsoftiktok, a high-profile anti-trans X account. Other accounts chimed in, comparing Biden’s announcement to the insurrection attempt at the Capitol on January 6, 2021.

“For anyone who still believes January 6th was a coup, take notes. You just witnessed a real one. July 21st,” @EndWokeness posted. Mike Cernovich, a far-right influencer and an early perpetuator of the “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory, who has more than a million followers, posted, “By any objective analysis, we witnessed a coup.”

More reputable conservatives joined in: “One candidate survived assassination. The other staged a coup,” the prominent venture capitalist (and major Donald Trump supporter) David Sacks wrote on X. “Joe Biden succumbed to a coup by Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, and Hollywood donors,” agreed Senator Tom Cotton. This morning, Trump himself amplified the “coup” attack line on Truth Social, posting that Democrats “stole the race from Biden after he won it in the primaries—A First!”

The right-wing talking point is an attempt to point out perceived hypocrisy. Democrats have tried to run a presidential campaign predicated on the notion that “democracy is on the ballot.” It’s a reference to Trump’s strongman tendencies, especially his attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, which culminated in the January 6 insurrection. Now the right has a rare opportunity to try to undermine that message—and they’re pursuing it.

July 21 was quite obviously not like January 6. For one thing, there was none of the violence that typically accompanies a government overthrow. For another, Biden voluntarily removed himself from the presidential race.

Trump loyalists are arguing that he did so against the will of primary voters. “Having invalidated the votes of more than 14 million Americans who selected Joe Biden to be the Democrat nominee for president,” Speaker of the House Mike Johnson posted on X, “the self-proclaimed ‘party of democracy’ has proven exactly the opposite.” In fact, most Democrats did want Biden to bow out of the race—nearly two-thirds of them, according to recent polls. And although it’s understandable that some voters are grousing about Biden passing the torch to Vice President Kamala Harris rather than pushing for an open convention, the idea that this is a coup demonstrates that the right is overplaying its hand.

It’s also an example of the right’s ongoing January 6 revisionism. As my colleague David A. Graham wrote, some Republicans have sought to “convert a shameful catastrophe into a celebration of the valor and honor of the culprits and portray those who attacked the country as the true patriots.” Flooding the zone with accusations of a coup can end up stripping the word of all meaning.

We should expect to hear this type of rhetoric more in the coming days and weeks. The “coup” line was one of two big reactions on the right-wing internet after Biden’s announcement yesterday, offering a clear preview of the right’s playbook against Harris. Predictably, certain parts of the right-wing internet also defaulted to its fixation on the topic of diversity, equity, and inclusion. To many Trump loyalists, the fact that Harris is a Black woman automatically makes her a “DEI presidential candidate.”..............

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MAGA Cries ‘Coup’

The right’s playbook against Kamala Harris is already clear.

www.theatlantic.com

That strategy is going to backfire tremendously on the Trump regime and they are too arrogant and deluded to realize it.

 

[Incumbent]

Updated endorsement tally. Also, the Harris campaign has reported they raised $81 million through the first 24 hours.

 

[el caliente]

Biden stepping down is not the same as Jan 6th. Candidates for office who don't see a path to victory step down all the time. Candidates who lose an election and encourage a coup are "winning at all costs".

The last time this happened was with LBJ over half a century ago. What’s happening is hardly an every day event. It’s a win at all costs event.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Updated endorsement tally. Also, fundraising is reportedly at $81 million.

 

[el caliente]

My take away was that there were certain big donors who didn’t want Harris and some bro pundits, not the Dem establishment. She’s probably correct - misogyny and prejudice can infect all types of people.

But you’re quoting a guy who is out there pushing the idea that “they” did “something” to Joe, and Covid was their cover story.

Not a person to pay any attention to, IMO.

I wonder if white women and men will step up for Harris.

 

[J-DONK]

I’m not questioning why they aren’t pushing him out of the party. They did however push him out of running for a 2nd term.

Biden couldn't be forced. You do understand that basic fact?

 

[el caliente]

By "we" he means "we who support Trump." Here's the translation:

"...we who all support Trump can all agree that it’s not altruism."

I hope that clears up the communications breakdown.

Bless your heart for thinking I would vote for Trump before you backed Project 2025.

Lol

 

[Incumbent]

It's been a very encouraging transition so far, and points us in a direction that should avoid the chaos and infighting many of us were concerned about.

 

[el caliente]

That same episode of Last Week tonight on the topic of Gerrymandering also made it very clear that Republicans do it a lot more and it's the only reason the Republicans have any power. If both the Republicans and the Democrats stopped gerrymandering, Democrats would win more elections and Republicans would lose more elections.

That reality is the reason Republicans are trying to overthrow our democracy, because it's the only way they can have any kind of power moving forward.

Indeed. It’s a shame that it happens.

Enjoy your swim. Lol

 

[el caliente]

Biden couldn't be forced. You do understand that basic fact?

lol.

 

[LA - L.A.]

This article contains an interesting paragraph

"Congressional Hispanic Caucus chairwoman Nanette Barragan, who emphasized that she was “all in” behind the vice president, said she spoke Sunday with Harris, who communicated that she preferred to forgo a virtual roll call for the nomination process and instead hold a process that adheres to regular order."

That's essentially what Obama said he would like to see in his statement yesterday. The statement which some folks are misinterpreting to mean he's not supportive of her.

AP survey shows Kamala Harris backed by enough delegates to become Democratic nominee

The AP tally is based on interviews with individual delegates, public statements from state parties, and endorsements from individual delegates.

apnews.com

Sounds like Harris wants the beginning of the counter-revolution to be televised.

 

[Incumbent]

I wonder if white women, men, and black men will step up for Harris.

You've worded it in a way that makes me curious about your thoughts. Surely you understand that a lot of women, of all races, will vote for her. I think you might be underestimating the opposition to the assault on women's reproductive rights. A lot of men, of all races, will vote for her.

Was your post a clumsy way of pondering how much she might be affected by racism and misogyny? We might have some common ground there, though it gives me hope that both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama won the popular vote in their presidential elections.

 

[B4YOU]

The flood gates of cash just opened.

 

[MT15]

I hope they are checking with that Ohio situation though. I read that there are poison pills in the exception that was passed. Which is why the DNC had planned to conform to the original date for Ohio.

 

[LA - L.A.]

I wonder if white women and men will step up for Harris.

I thought you hated identity politics? Why are you bringing race into the discussion?

You just gave yourself away again.

 

[J-DONK]

lol.

I thought the same thing when you tried to "both sides" couping.

You should stop posting, and go read up on the nomination process, and the fake elector scheme.

 

[Booker]

Even if the "higher ups" wanted another candidate, it requires a candidate willing to challenge her, and no one has done that.

The angle/spin she needs to take and really emphasize is that this is of course the last way she would want to become the party's nominee, but with Biden's endorsement and party leadership and rank and file rallying behind her, that she feels she's been drafted into the role and is ready to rise to the occasion and serve the American people.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

I hope they are checking with that Ohio situation though. I read that there are poison pills in the exception that was passed. Which is why the DNC had planned to conform to the original date for Ohio.

You have a non-X link (at work). I'd like to catch up.