Biden stepping down - now what? (1 Viewer)

[zztop]

I feel like this deserves a separate topic.
What will be the plan for the DNC?
How will this all shake out?

 

[SaintForLife]

Didn’t your party just push out the head of the party because they didn’t see a viable path to victory over Trump?

Remember. The Democrats are the protectors of democracy against Trump. They rigged 3 presidential primary elections but yet they are somehow able to retain the title of democracy protectors. There will probably be a Marvel movie one day about it.

 

[J-DONK]

Biden stepping down after not seeing a viable path to victory has nothing to do with Obama not endorsing. What's your point?

I feel like what he is really asking is why aren't we pushing him out of the party like they did poor Liz.

 

[LA - L.A.]

She supported Biden and is asserting that the same forces that conspired to oust him would try to do the same to Harris. She’s not being a hypocrite and she’s not accusing the party at large of hypocrisy, she was giving a warning about efforts she doesn’t agree with.

And like a lot of us, AOC is surprised that no one is challenging Harris or trying to push her out.

 

[MT15]

Nope. I'm not upset at all.

B. Freaking S. Lolololololololololol

 

[B4YOU]

Remember. The Democrats are the protectors of democracy against Trump. They rigged 3 presidential primary elections but yet they are somehow able to retain the title of democracy protectors. There will probably be a Marvel movie one day about it.

This talking point is dumb. Candidates are selected at the convention. If Republicans are now the protectors of democracy, then explain Jan 6th. Also, are they now in favor of eliminating the electoral college? Probably not since Republicans have won the popular vote only once since 1992.

 

[MT15]

My take away was that there were certain big donors who didn’t want Harris and some bro pundits, not the Dem establishment. She’s probably correct - misogyny and prejudice can infect all types of people.

But you’re quoting a guy who is out there pushing the idea that “they” did “something” to Joe, and Covid was their cover story.

Not a person to pay any attention to, IMO.

 

[el caliente]

Biden stepping down after not seeing a viable path to victory has nothing to do with Obama not endorsing. What's your point?

Well you were talking about “winning at all costs” like that was something exclusive to Republicans while failing to recognize what your party just did to the head of the party.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Probably something similar to Ted Cruz and Nikki Haley when they endorsed Trump after the personal attacks below the belt. Politics are all about deals, so get off your soap box and go support your convicted felon candidate.

Everyone who's endorsing Harris was promised that Trump would lose the election if everyone endorsed Harris. They all jumped on that deal and are going all in on it.

 

[B4YOU]

Well you were talking about “winning at all costs” like that was something exclusive to Republicans while failing to recognize what your party just did to the head of the party.

Biden stepping down is not the same as Jan 6th. Candidates for office who don't see a path to victory step down all the time. Candidates who lose an election and encourage a coup are "winning at all costs".

 

[SamAndreas]

This article contains an interesting paragraph

"Congressional Hispanic Caucus chairwoman Nanette Barragan, who emphasized that she was “all in” behind the vice president, said she spoke Sunday with Harris, who communicated that she preferred to forgo a virtual roll call for the nomination process and instead hold a process that adheres to regular order."

That's essentially what Obama said he would like to see in his statement yesterday. The statement which some folks are misinterpreting to mean he's not supportive of her.

AP survey shows Kamala Harris backed by enough delegates to become Democratic nominee

The AP tally is based on interviews with individual delegates, public statements from state parties, and endorsements from individual delegates.

apnews.com

 

[LA - L.A.]

...we can all agree that it’s not altruism.

By "we" he means "we who support Trump." Here's the translation:

"...we who support Trump can all agree that it’s not altruism."

I hope that clears up the communications breakdown.

 

[LA - L.A.]

I think certain individuals (not all) required incentives to make the move.

That right there is what you call psychological projection. That's what that is.

 

[zztop]

Biden stepping down is not the same as Jan 6th. Candidates for office who don't see a path to victory step down all the time. Candidates who lose an election and encourage a coup are "winning at all costs".

Yes, according to that politico article, he was still running Saturday. He met with his two close advisors and their internal polling they had just conducted said he had no path to victory. But this article, unfortunately, got buried under MULTIPLE pages of derailment over a comment AOC made

 

[not2rich]

This talking point is dumb. Candidates are selected at the convention. If Republicans are now the protectors of democracy, then explain Jan 6th. Also, are they now in favor of eliminating the electoral college? Probably not since Republicans have won the popular vote only once since 1992.

He's not making a good faith argument and neither are the people he gets his talking points from. You're wasting your time trying to convince him otherwise.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Nikki Haley made a prediction that between Biden and Trump, whichever senior citizen dropped out of the race first, the other guy still standing would lose.
Now Ds are hoping her prediction comes true.
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Nikki Haley’s Old Warning Haunts Trump as Biden Bows Out

Donald Trump’s former rival had a dire prediction on the 2024 race. It looks like it may soon become reality.

www.yahoo.com

 

[LA - L.A.]

There is a great episode of Last Week tonight on the topic of Gerrymandering. It’s packed up, and doesn’t serve anyone’s best interest.

Sadly both major parties do it.

That same episode of Last Week tonight on the topic of Gerrymandering also made it very clear that Republicans do it a lot more and it's the only reason the Republicans have any power. If both the Republicans and the Democrats stopped gerrymandering, Democrats would win more elections and Republicans would lose more elections.

That reality is the reason Republicans are trying to overthrow our democracy, because it's the only way they can have any kind of power moving forward.

 

[LA - L.A.]

I wonder if there will be riots in streets...

Only if Trump has the Jan 6th crowd show up.

 

[el caliente]

I feel like what he is really asking is why aren't we pushing him out of the party like they did poor Liz.

I’m not questioning why they aren’t pushing him out of the party. They did however push him out of running for a 2nd term.