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    el caliente said:
    I’m saying that it doesn’t take much to rack up seniority in the USSS (as the standard for terminus the same that I experienced while with the TSA).

    I’m equating what I saw while I worked for the government to the standard for accumulating seniority to any government job.

    I don’t know the mental or physical exams that one has to go through for the USSS, however I do know the physical and mental exams required to qualify for employment with the CIA (or I did know them in 2009), and they aren’t easy (8 min mile run, 50 pull ups, etc., and multiple exams). But if you pass, once your in, your in.

    How long did you work for the government?
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    I spent 8 years in the military. 1989-1996. Did initial qualification upon graduating college for FBI but ultimately chose a different route.

    2 of my closer friends -one is FBI the other is US Postal Inspector - over 15 years each - i hear the chatter all the time about seniority and have some really good stories.
     
    efil4 said:
    I spent 8 years in the military. 1989-1996. Did initial qualification upon graduating college for FBI but ultimately chose a different route.

    2 of my closer friends -one is FBI the other is US Postal Inspector - over 15 years each - i hear the chatter all the time about seniority and have some really good stories.
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    Yeah, I have a friend who recently left education to join the FBI. Great guy. I asked him if he missed teaching (both he and his wife were teachers), and his response was that he wished that he would have made the switch sooner.

    Watching him prep for the exams made me glad that I wasn’t him (however they have dialed back the 8 min mile from when I applied. I believe it’s 8.5 min now).

    Great guy. He was accepted to both Ross and Mendoza but went government as he wouldn’t have any debt, and he could retire early. Good on him.
     
    el caliente said:
    Yeah, I have a friend who recently left education to join the FBI. Great guy. I asked him if he missed teaching (both he and his wife were teachers), and his response was that he wished that he would have made the switch sooner.

    Watching him prep for the exams made me glad that I wasn’t him (however they have dialed back the 8 min mile from when I applied. I believe it’s 8.5 min now).

    Great guy. He was accepted to both Ross and Mendoza but went government as he wouldn’t have any debt, and he could retire early. Good on him.
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    thats the ONE item that i had trouble with giving up ( having graduated with Finance degree ) - the retirement package. Had i joined in 1999 like planned, i literally would be in year 25 today. LOL.

    oh well.
     
    efil4 said:
    thats the ONE item that i had trouble with giving up ( having graduated with Finance degree ) - the retirement package. Had i joined in 1999 like planned, i literally would be in year 25 today. LOL.

    oh well.
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    Retirement and a nice contractor job doing the same thing that you were doing before (only for multiple times more).

    I have several clients who made their money once they left the government, and were brought in as partners in either tech, security, etc. industries. They are sharp guys, but they were mostly at the right place and right time with the right connections.

    Different story for a different thread, but government contracts are some of the wildest things out there.

    Oh well indeed.
     
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    el caliente said:
    I’m not equating my TSA job to a USSS job (however I knew how to spot threats). I’m saying I worked for the TSA (a government job) for 3 years, and I could have stayed around longer while giving the same performance I gave on day 1, but I didn’t want to go that route. Plenty of people I worked with had been with the TSA since the creation of the department under Bush, and they were extremely lazy. The job is not designed for the average go getter, and in many cases you see people fail up with promotions (poor test scores, poor work ethic) in order to get them moved to someone else’s department to screw around. Honestly it was my time with the TSA that dissuaded me from pursuing jobs with the CIA after graduation. I hated seeing how government employment worked.

    I still see those same folks when I fly in and out of NOLA. Those people who were lazy and not good workers then don’t seem to have changed given how I see them bickering over who has to put bags in a scanning machine, and fighting over who can sit at the scanning machine so that they can sit.

    No matter how lazy or how poor their scores are, they won’t be let go or fired because it literally would take an act of Congress to fire them (outside of the 1 year probationary period). They will simply be moved around and keep accumulating seniority and benefits (which isn’t a bad deal). The USSS operates in the same fashion where you won’t get fired without an act of Congress.

    So you can miss me with “she has 25 years of experience.” It doesn’t mean a whole lot to me when I know that the process to get fired is damn near impossible.
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    Government jobs are not all the same. I seriously do more work in my current position than I ever did in my 20 years of private sector employment. Just because your experience was a certain way doesn't mean it's the same at every agency. Some people work hard and take their jobs seriously, and some don't. And by and large, most agents in the intelligence agencies work their arses off. Their roles demand it. Those who don't usually end up working lower level desk jobs or transfer out. Others simply don't get promoted.

    And no, it doesn't take an act of Congress to get fired. There are hoops that suprvisors go through to fire someone, but it can and does happen. I know of 2 people who were fired since I started working 5 years ago. It can and does happen.

    And not that many stay in government for 25 years. Many retire early, others go to private sector jobs for better pay or opportunities.

    Every agency is different, some have more turnover than others. In 5 years, I've seen a lot of people come and go.
     
    el caliente said:
    What’s the ideal timeline for this to be put to bed? You can’t let this spill into September or October with the heat being turned up as we get closer to the election, right?
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    No idea, but it ain't gonna happen in a week or month. A thorough investigation from top to bottom probably will take several months. There are a lot of moving parts, and I don't think there will be a simple answer. I mean, I hope it's sooner than later. We'll see.
     
    el caliente said:
    If I’m any candidate with a USSS detail I’m putting a few dollars from my campaign towards private security. At least until this is all sorted out.

    As long as the same players are in the game, what level of confidence would you truly have?
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    You don't think Trump already does this? He's got his own security on top of the USSS detail.
     
    el caliente said:
    Do democrats or Liberals not enjoy LoTR, or name companies after Tolkien material? Why make it a conservative/ neo-con thing (like she is doing in this piece)? What a weird arse narrative for her to put out there.

    MT15, were you out when they didn’t write Tom Bombadil into the movies? Where did Gandalf hurt you?

    For the record I’m with you if you say that you didn’t like the Hobbit or the new Amazon series. They aren’t as good as the LoTR series, and the books aren’t on the same level IMHO.
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    Lol, you completely missed the point. It was never about LoTR. Lol.
     
    el caliente said:
    Do democrats or Liberals not enjoy LoTR, or name companies after Tolkien material? Why make it a conservative/ neo-con thing (like she is doing in this piece)? What a weird arse narrative for her to put out there.

    MT15, were you out when they didn’t write Tom Bombadil into the movies? Where did Gandalf hurt you?

    For the record I’m with you if you say that you didn’t like the Hobbit or the new Amazon series. They aren’t as good as the LoTR series, and the books aren’t on the same level IMHO.
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    I'm pretty far left and loved LOTR books. The movies did a better-than-expected job at converting the books to movies (which are usually isn't the case). I remember being puzzled about a few omissions from the books, but figured it was cut due to time. The Hobbit movies I had more issues with (mostly how they stretched it out into 3 movies and added some extra stuff that didn't happen in the books, I suspect to pad the runtime of the movies).

    The Amazon series is just ehhhh to me. I wanted to like it, some of the cinematography is amazing...plot/script was mostly bad. (I liked the parts with the dwarves and harfoots)
     

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