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    It also seems somewhat plausible (given the release of the party’s platform), that Trump has no interest in Project 2025. I wouldn’t vote for him either way, but given the information you are presenting it seems less likely that he will roll with 2025.

    So I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on his commitment to 2025.

    So your belief is that Trump will not try to implement any of Project 20205 if elected? Do you also believe that nobody in his administration will try to implement Project 2025, even if under a different name? Do you also believe that none of the people responsible for putting together Project 2025 will be in Trump's administration, even thought it was his former administration officials who put it together and still support him? Do you also believe that none of his advisors or outside advisors support Project 2025 and won't be trying to get him to implement it if he's elected, even if under a different name?

    You really seem to like to focus on one small little trivial point (i.e. the party platform and Project 2025 aren't exactly the same) to avoid having to take holistic view of the situation. I guess it makes it easy to dismiss the danger and claim both sides. You did the same thing with the discussion on Trump's similarity with HItler.
     
    I'm hearing that Republicans are trying to figure out how to capitalize on the shooting. JD Vance has accused democrats of causing the shooting, but selecting JD Vance as VP sends the message that the shooting will be politicized. It was possible that we could've united at least on the matter of violence, but blaming democrats means there won't be any such unity. I assume Republicans expected democrats to stop calling them out for the outrageous things they plan for fear that they would be blamed for incitement of violence, but naming JD Vance changes that. Republicans plan for America is violent. They don't want gun control, even for people that have a violent background; they want to round up immigrants, which will lead to many violations of innocent people; they want military tribunals for political opponents; and Trump is very pugilistic. The Trump/Vance ticket is even more dangerous. Borghum and Rubio would've been much better VP choices for unity, but Trump doesn't want unity. Democrats better not demure in their criticisms about the Republicans' plans and approach.
     
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    It was leaked by RFK,Jr’s son, who sounds as unhinged as his dad:

     

    These are some crazy details from this article about the failure on Saturday.

    Snipers inside the building had spotted Crooks scoping the building, but no one actually stopped him until it was too late.

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    So your belief is that Trump will not try to implement any of Project 20205 if elected? Do you also believe that nobody in his administration will try to implement Project 2025, even if under a different name? Do you also believe that none of the people responsible for putting together Project 2025 will be in Trump's administration, even thought it was his former administration officials who put it together and still support him? Do you also believe that none of his advisors or outside advisors support Project 2025 and won't be trying to get him to implement it if he's elected, even if under a different name?

    You really seem to like to focus on one small little trivial point (i.e. the party platform and Project 2025 aren't exactly the same) to avoid having to take holistic view of the situation. I guess it makes it easy to dismiss the danger and claim both sides. You did the same thing with the discussion on Trump's similarity with HItler.
    I honestly don’t believe Trump is going to push Project 2025. I believe that some of his advisors and some of his supporters support Project 2025, however given the platform that was agreed upon yesterday, I don’t 2025 will get the traction that fear mongers feel it will.

    I’m not voting for Trump (or Biden), so pardon me if I don’t care to dig deeper into the 2025 boogeyman.

    I also don’t care to engage further in the Hitler/Trump comparisons when the only parallel is their bombastic comportment.
     
    So your belief is that Trump will not try to implement any of Project 20205 if elected? Do you also believe that nobody in his administration will try to implement Project 2025, even if under a different name? Do you also believe that none of the people responsible for putting together Project 2025 will be in Trump's administration, even thought it was his former administration officials who put it together and still support him? Do you also believe that none of his advisors or outside advisors support Project 2025 and won't be trying to get him to implement it if he's elected, even if under a different name?
    Based on his VP pick with Vance having some populist views it seems unlikely they do try to implement project 2025 which looks like establishment Republican garbage.
    You really seem to like to focus on one small little trivial point (i.e. the party platform and Project 2025 aren't exactly the same) to avoid having to take holistic view of the situation. I guess it makes it easy to dismiss the danger and claim both sides. You did the same thing with the discussion on Trump's similarity with HItler.
    That's because it's insane to compare Trump to Hitler. The video shows the many Hitler accusations. The playbook is so transparent.

     
    I'm hearing that Republicans are trying to figure out how to capitalize on the shooting. JD Vance has accused democrats of causing the shooting, but selecting JD Vance as VP sends the message that the shooting will be politicized. It was possible that we could've united at least on the matter of violence, but blaming democrats means there won't be any such unity. I assume Republicans expected democrats to stop calling them out for the outrageous things they plan for fear that they would be blamed for incitement of violence, but naming JD Vance changes that. Republicans plan for America is violent. They don't want gun control, even for people that have a violent background; they want to round up immigrants, which will lead to many violations of innocent people; they want military tribunals for political opponents; and Trump is very pugilistic. The Trump/Vance ticket is even more dangerous. Borghum and Rubio would've been much more better VP choices for unity, but Trump doesn't want unity. Democrats better not demure in their criticisms about the Republicans' plans and approach.
    Yeah, it seems that the gop is already using the bullseye remark out of context like crazy. I can only imagine what they will do with this. libsoftiktok probably already has it ready to go.
     
    It was leaked by RFK,Jr’s son, who sounds as unhinged as his dad:


    BTW - Trump was defended on here when it was pointed out that he hadn’t yet bothered to call the widow of the man who was killed by a bullet meant for him.

    He obviously had time to call RFK,Jr and spew anti-vax bull shirt though.
     
    I can’t believe he hasn’t called the widow to express his sympathy. That’s a shame, but seems par for the course. I wonder if he reached out to her now if that would make any difference.
     
    Big Oof


    I really like Jack Black, and appreciate him taking such a stance. I don’t think that Tenacious D should be canceled for such comments, but I find it interesting that they canceled the remainder of their shows due to the comment. I wonder if some this going on under the surface there.

    Trump is a pretty unlovable guy, and the assassination attempt didn’t change that, however wishing that the shooter hadn’t missed is pretty low.
    and most people agree with it being a big oof. but if the tables were turned, and some one like Kid Rock said that after an attempt on a Biden, all the MAGAs would double down and say how he has free speech and y'all should just move on...
     


    Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle, on why they weren't stationed on the roof where the assassin fired from: "That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof."

    But... the Secret Service officers who killed the assassin were on a different, sloped roof.

    This excuse makes no sense. None whatsoever.
     
    I honestly don’t believe Trump is going to push Project 2025. I believe that some of his advisors and some of his supporters support Project 2025, however given the platform that was agreed upon yesterday, I don’t 2025 will get the traction that fear mongers feel it will.

    I’m not voting for Trump (or Biden), so pardon me if I don’t care to dig deeper into the 2025 boogeyman.

    I also don’t care to engage further in the Hitler/Trump comparisons when the only parallel is their bombastic comportment.
    You have to realize that Trump's only conviction is power and wealth. He has no decent core convictions. He doesn't care if Project 2025 is implemented, except the parts that benefit him, but he also won't stand in the way, because it would endanger his power. He'll be surrounded by people making decisions and putting documents before him that he won't read that will push Project 2025 implementation. It's very naive to think that his administration won't try very hard to implement it, and Republicans are terrified to check Trump, so they'll let him do whatever he or his reps want. He'll also be able to break any law he wants implementing the "core" executive function to implement Project 2025. Frankly, due to the immunity given to the president, character has never mattered more than it does today, and Trump's is very bad. We need presidents like Carter going forward until checks are placed on the president.
     

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