All things Racist...USA edition (2 Viewers)

[Farb]

I was looking for a place to put this so we could discuss but didn't really find a place that worked so I created this thread so we can all place articles, experiences, videos and examples of racism in the USA.

This is one that happened this week. The lady even called and filed a complaint on the officer. This officer also chose to wear the body cam (apparently, LA doesn't require this yet). This exchange wasn't necessarily racist IMO until she started with the "mexican racist...you will never be white, like you want" garbage. That is when it turned racist IMO

All the murderer and other insults, I think are just a by product of CRT and ACAB rhetoric that is very common on the radical left and sadly is being brought to mainstream in this country.

Another point that I think is worth mentioning is she is a teacher and the sense of entitlement she feels is mind blowing.

https://news.yahoo.com/black-teacher-berates-latino-la-221235341.html

 

[coldseat]

If this woman had only been more responsible and personally accountable, this wouldn't have happened to her. Because systematic racism isn't a thing, according to @Farb

When a Black homeowner concealed her race, her home’s appraisal value doubled | CNN Business

When Carlette Duffy had her Indianapolis home appraised as part of a refinance application last year, it kept getting valued much lower than she expected.

www.cnn.com

A separate study found that the racial composition of a neighborhood is affecting values now even more than it was 40 years ago, with the appraisal gap roughly doubling since 1980. The gap between average home appraisals in majority White neighborhoods and those that are mainly Black and Latina was $164,000 in 2015, up from about $86,000 in 1980, according to a study from sociologists Junia Howell at the University of Pittsburgh and Elizabeth Korver-Glenn at the University of New Mexico.

The researchers conclude that this growing gap is primarily due to appraising practices, including the use of sale comparisons, which has allowed appraisals impacted by race and appraisers' assumptions about neighborhoods to devalue communities of color.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

One of the biggest determinations in the overwhelming disparity of “success” in this country is the fact that minorities don’t have generational wealth. The reason they don’t have generational wealth for years and years and years of racist policies that the government enacted and followed. I mean, if the child of a Rockefeller fails miserably and makes “bad choices“, they’re still a Rockefeller. If one’s family has been in the country club set for a couple generations at least, the bad choices are almost completely mitigated by the fact that the family has wealth. And there is absolutely no denying that US policy has greatly deterred generational wealth of minorities.

I think this certainly plays a large part in things. Being born into a wealthier, more stable environment is likely to increase your chances of also having a stable and wealthy adulthood.

Perhaps you could expand on US policy that has deterred minority generational wealth. I'm aware of policies that made it hard for minorities to build wealth in terms of home ownership through the 70's, are there others? Do they still exist today?

 

[SystemShock]

and hispanic (I guess the term is Latinx)

Over my dead body.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Over my dead body.

lol.... yeah, I just saw the term in the past month or two... not sure why the change.

 

[SystemShock]

lol.... yeah, I just saw the term in the past month or two... not sure why the change.

I'm already dead set against the term "Latino/a", a label given to the not-Canada/U.S. portion of the continent by Napoleon III during the French occupation of Mexico. The x is an attempt to make the term gender neutral by Spanish speaking people in the U.S.

 

[DaveXA]

I'm already dead set against the term "Latino/a"; the x is an attempt to make it gender neutral by Spanish speaking people in the U.S.

What's the issue with Latino and similar?

 

[wardorican]

Prosecution does.

did you mean persecution?

 

[brandon]

did you mean persecution?

Nope.

I’m busy prosecuting the defendant.

 

[wardorican]

Can you expand on this, I am not following what you are saying....I am slow, I will admit that?

I'm picking on Brandon.

Basically, just because you or I may believe something about someone (liar, idiot, smart, funny, mean, jerk, troll, etc), it doesn't mean we have to say it out loud. Most folks are smart enough to catch on to things without it being said out loud. Saying it out loud just changes the topic from the actual topic, to the petty fight or side argument. i.e. it derails the thread often.

 

[brandon]

I'm picking on Brandon.

Basically, just because you or I may believe something about someone (liar, idiot, smart, funny, mean, jerk, troll, etc), it doesn't mean we have to say it out loud. Most folks are smart enough to catch on to things without it being said out loud. Saying it out loud just changes the topic from the actual topic, to the petty fight or side argument. i.e. it derails the thread often.

Self-moderated. Not trying to get popped tonight.

 

[V Chip]

I think this certainly plays a large part in things. Being born into a wealthier, more stable environment is likely to increase your chances of also having a stable and wealthy adulthood.

Perhaps you could expand on US policy that has deterred minority generational wealth. I'm aware of policies that made it hard for minorities to build wealth in terms of home ownership through the 70's, are there others? Do they still exist today?

Some do. One I can think of for certain is our tax policy which favors having wealth to invest and get incredible tax savings for home ownership and capital gains. The less capital (wealth) one has, the less advantages that can be taken advantage of at tax time.

 

[SystemShock]

What's the issue with Latino and similar?

I edited my post after you replied. Latin America is a label that Napoleon III came up with during the occupation of MX to describe everything from the U.S. border down... and fork the French.

 

[insidejob]

If this woman had only been more responsible and personally accountable, this wouldn't have happened to her. Because systematic racism isn't a thing, according to @Farb

When a Black homeowner concealed her race, her home’s appraisal value doubled | CNN Business

When Carlette Duffy had her Indianapolis home appraised as part of a refinance application last year, it kept getting valued much lower than she expected.

www.cnn.com

A separate study found that the racial composition of a neighborhood is affecting values now even more than it was 40 years ago, with the appraisal gap roughly doubling since 1980. The gap between average home appraisals in majority White neighborhoods and those that are mainly Black and Latina was $164,000 in 2015, up from about $86,000 in 1980, according to a study from sociologists Junia Howell at the University of Pittsburgh and Elizabeth Korver-Glenn at the University of New Mexico.

The researchers conclude that this growing gap is primarily due to appraising practices, including the use of sale comparisons, which has allowed appraisals impacted by race and appraisers' assumptions about neighborhoods to devalue communities of color.

I didn't read the link yet but can very easily point out the real life examples of this. When dealing with homeowners insurance, both banks and homeowners expect you to insure their home for more than the rebuilding cost in majority white neighborhoods because the market value is higher. This is after both of them know good and god damn well that the price of the lot and other factors contributing to the high market value don't make the house more expensive to rebuild in the event of a total loss. It's gotten to the point where I literally have to say, "If this house burns to the ground tomorrow, it will cost the same to rebuild it on Audubon Place as it would in the Lower Ninth. We don't insure the plot of land, neighbors, schools or police presence in the neighborhood."

 

[wardorican]

Yeah, I wasn't online this weekend at all and it was fantastic!
I generally agree with your over all here but the devil is in the details and I want to come back to this, but I felt I had to type something before others begin to formulate illogical answers and atribute them to me again. Is that not frowned up? LOL. I know it only goes one way.

Let me reply on this when I have more time because I think it is a good point and worthy of a good response (well, at the very least a well typed reply since no one here finds my posts 'good'. I find them unreadable a lot of time in all honesty!).

So, any chance you read and thought about this?

 

[superchuck500]

Meanwhile in the Dallas suburbs, parents have gotten an art teacher suspended after students designed their yearbook cover art to reflect their experience over the last year and . . . gasp . . . it included black lives matter and George Floyd references.

 

[DaveXA]

Meanwhile in the Dallas suburbs, parents have gotten an art teacher suspended after students designed their yearbook cover art to reflect their experience over the last year and . . . gasp . . . it included black lives matter and George Floyd references.

I'd be happy if that were my yearbook. I don't see what the big deal is.

 

[superchuck500]

I'd be happy if that were my yearbook. I don't see what the big deal is.

Perhaps because you're not a racist who thinks that black lives matter is a leftist terrorist organization trying to bring about the end of white dominance - nor do you think that supporting George Floyd and seeking law enforcement reform is an affront to police who must be supported while they're keeping minorities down (it's okay to harm or try to kill them if they're getting in your way, however).

I think the problem here is when parents are too myopic or stubborn to realize that their kids live in a broader world. These were middle school kids - children of an age where they are really beginning to share the experience of our times and events. Those messages reflect events of national importance, events these kids lived through. It's really sad and grotesque to insist that a middle school child cannot share the sentiment of black lives matter, that is somehow is a political statement that reflects the school imposing a viewpoint. That's some deep-seeded racist shirt right there. And these are the same people who insist that there's no such thing as institutional racism in America? It's so sad.

 

[Nebaghead]

Perhaps because you're not a racist who thinks that black lives matter is a leftist terrorist organization trying to bring about the end of white dominance - nor do you think that supporting George Floyd and seeking law enforcement reform is an affront to police who must be supported while they're keeping minorities down (it's okay to harm or try to kill them if they're getting in your way, however).

I think the problem here is when parents are too myopic or stubborn to realize that their kids live in a broader world. These were middle school kids - children of an age where they are really beginning to share the experience of our times and events. Those messages reflect events of national importance, events these kids lived through. It's really sad and grotesque to insist that a middle school child cannot share the sentiment of black lives matter, that is somehow is a political statement that reflects the school imposing a viewpoint. That's some deep-seeded racist shirt right there. And these are the same people who insist that there's no such thing as institutional racism in America? It's so sad.

Amen.