All things Racist...USA edition (1 Viewer)

[Farb]

I was looking for a place to put this so we could discuss but didn't really find a place that worked so I created this thread so we can all place articles, experiences, videos and examples of racism in the USA.

This is one that happened this week. The lady even called and filed a complaint on the officer. This officer also chose to wear the body cam (apparently, LA doesn't require this yet). This exchange wasn't necessarily racist IMO until she started with the "mexican racist...you will never be white, like you want" garbage. That is when it turned racist IMO

All the murderer and other insults, I think are just a by product of CRT and ACAB rhetoric that is very common on the radical left and sadly is being brought to mainstream in this country.

Another point that I think is worth mentioning is she is a teacher and the sense of entitlement she feels is mind blowing.

https://news.yahoo.com/black-teacher-berates-latino-la-221235341.html

 

[bird]

I know, or the emotional rather than rational, I'm just playing a bit. But at this point, if someone doesn't know that African Americans aren't "dangerous, evil, lazy, diseased, and so on" they're afflicted. And if they aren't making an effort to make themselves, and this society, healthier it isn't due to a lizard brain either literally or figuratively.

Humans fear many things. Change is one in particular as it relates to real or perceived threats to their social condition. Why did so many people vote for Trump when he demonstrably lied, acted boorishly before the election and afterward all while having no coherent program beyond grievance? Because we are not at some level of emotional growth. We know racism is learned. At what point does the teaching cease to exist? We have seen polls for literally decades claiming young people are more likely to not be racist yet on racism marches.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Humans fear many things. Change is one in particular as it relates to real or perceived threats to their social condition. Why did so many people vote for Trump when he demonstrably lied, acted boorishly before the election and afterward all while having no coherent program beyond grievance? Because we are not at some level of emotional growth. We know racism is learned. At what point does the teaching cease to exist? We have seen polls for literally decades claiming young people are more likely to not be racist yet on racism marches.

Look, racism is an affliction, a disorder. Some people know how to work with their ailments and others don't.

 

[Optimus Prime]

the comments for this video are depressing

 

[bird]

Look, racism is an affliction, a disorder. Some people know how to work with their ailments and others don't.

It is an ideology. It has roots in Roman and Greek antiquity. Can someone change their belief structure? Sure. It does happen but it also takes a lot of work and the willingness to change by the person. That you or I know it is wrong is irrelevant to those who cling to the ideology. A racist does not think he has an affliction. He sees danger in the form of the other. That is the essence of tribalism which has existed for millennia and will continue, most likely, to exist as long as humans are on the planet.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Some Tuscaloosa-area high school students walked out of class Wednesday after escalating complaints about a Black History Month production and alleged racism at Hillcrest High School.

About 300 students protested a school administration that organizers said had promoted “psychological trauma” among Black students. Students claimed that an administrator said their Black History Month event shouldn’t mention figures before 1970 -- a claim that school officials denied. Students also said they knew Black students who faced stricter school dress codes and lower academic expectations.

“We decided that we needed to bring attention to some issues here at Hillcrest High School that school administration has failed to adequately address,” senior Jamiyah Brown said in a speech on Wednesday, claiming some Black students at the school were “targeted and punished unjustly without justifiable reasoning.”

“We are disrespected and the administration has created a climate of intimidation and bullying towards those that challenge authority,” she continued. “When our parents seek to address these issues, the administration responds in a dismissive and hostile manner.”

Students, some holding signs of Martin Luther King, Jr.’s “I Have A Dream Speech,” protested peacefully for about an hour on the lawn of the high school, according to WVUA 23 News.

In an email sent to staff Wednesday morning, Hillcrest High School Principal Jeff Hinton said he expected students to protest and asked teachers to “respect their decision” to walk out or remain in class.

King is a figure that students say was discouraged from being included in the upcoming Black History Month program, among other Civil Rights icons and major historical events like slavery and Reconstruction.

Brown, who is part of the production, said she was told earlier this fall by a white administrator that the students should include more “current” Black figures, “like Beyoncé,” in the production, and that “old stuff” made people feel uncomfortable.

Brown said Black students were repeatedly disciplined for dress code violations, even for wearing similar clothes to white students. One of her peers, she claimed, was told she looked like a “streetwalker” from an administrator.

And others, Brown said, were told they should “drop out” by staff, or punished without evidence that they had done anything wrong.

“It’s not just about the Black history month program,” Brown said in an interview with AL.com. “The Black History month program and the discrimination are two different problems.”.................

Why 300 Tuscaloosa area high school students walked out of class: ‘We are disrespected’

Student and NAACP complaints escalated over the last month.

www.al.com

 

[Farb]

I’ll try to use small words for you but that is likely impossible.

1) Anyone can be a bigot.
2) Racism is an ideology based upon characteristics deemed immutable and unchangeable.
3) These characteristics arise from imagined actions and abilities which allow those creating the ideology to feel superior to sub-human “others”.
4) In the West in general and the United States in particular this ideology manifested itself in the form of slavery followed by Jim Crow and the establishment of institutions designed to reinforce the ideology. Also included in this are actions reinforced by ideology holders that are not arbitrarily supported by law but by social convention created by ideology holders.

Your line about truth would be laughable were it not pathetic. You are uninterested in truth. You are interested in trying to gain vindication for your internal belief system skewed though it is. Thus you can claim a measure of superiority by saying “See! Blacks (or Asians or fill-in-the-blank) are racist too!”. It simply isn’t satisfying your hunger that others may be bigots while racism, in this country, is peculiar to white people.

why would your ability to use small words be impossible exactly?

1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. Do those same institutions in the West, particularly the US include the institutions that went to war with itself to end slavery in the US? What about the British navy that spent lives and resources patrolling to end slavery, not just in the UK but over the globe? Since slavery is particularly a western crime is the original sin, what about those countries/societies/civilizations that still have slaver today? Do we hold the same disgust?

No. I think you are pretending to miss my point on purpose. The reason I know this is because of your constant personal attacks in your attempt at discourse. But, to use some small, medium and larger words to make it perfectly clear. My internal belief or ideology is that racism is not as prevalent in this country/society/civilization as you and the far left try and make it appear. My proof? The never ending cycle of the media grasping for racist stories and the abundance of fake hate crimes and the lack of actual hate crimes. Now, the by product of that is, that by condemning people on the color of their skin for past sins of their ancestors, you will in fact create racism on all sides. Not just that, but the intentional act of only highlighting the bad and not the good that founders/ancestors/elders did creates a hate filled lens to view the country/society/civilization. I also believe that is the goal and not just an accident.

 

[Farb]

https://1819news.com/news/item/grou...roduces-list-of-racial-slurs-for-white-people
A whistleblower in the Auburn University Black Student Union (BSU) claims to have retrieved a Google Doc from a group message associated with the organization, which lists over 250 racial slurs for white people, including “failed abortions,” “diseased neanderthals” and more.

The whistleblower sent the document and screenshots of the group message on the popular group messaging app GroupMe to Auburn student Jaden Heard, who leaked the information to Turning Point USA (TPUSA), a conservative campus organization. TPUSA published a short article about the findings on its website last week.

 

[bird]

why would your ability to use small words be impossible exactly?

1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. Do those same institutions in the West, particularly the US include the institutions that went to war with itself to end slavery in the US? What about the British navy that spent lives and resources patrolling to end slavery, not just in the UK but over the globe? Since slavery is particularly a western crime is the original sin, what about those countries/societies/civilizations that still have slaver today? Do we hold the same disgust?

No. I think you are pretending to miss my point on purpose. The reason I know this is because of your constant personal attacks in your attempt at discourse. But, to use some small, medium and larger words to make it perfectly clear. My internal belief or ideology is that racism is not as prevalent in this country/society/civilization as you and the far left try and make it appear. My proof? The never ending cycle of the media grasping for racist stories and the abundance of fake hate crimes and the lack of actual hate crimes. Now, the by product of that is, that by condemning people on the color of their skin for past sins of their ancestors, you will in fact create racism on all sides. Not just that, but the intentional act of only highlighting the bad and not the good that founders/ancestors/elders did creates a hate filled lens to view the country/society/civilization. I also believe that is the goal and not just an accident.

Your belief structure is irrelevant. Your claims about the media are irrelevant.

The founders are irrelevant from the standpoint of what good they did. They refused to deal with slavery when there were those who were vehemently opposed to slavery before the country was even founded. Condemning the actions of those long past as well as those near past is never wrong. So, what we see from your commentary is that you are afraid of that history. Someone’s feelings might get hurt. Please explain Germany’s response to Nazism in the context of your claims. You cannot. Germany knows that the past is never really past. They also know that those who control the past can control the future. Look at DeathSantis. Tell me that his actions are the result of CRT or whatever you care to spin.

The goal is for white people to confront the past, present and future that the ideology called racism has imposed upon far too many people in this country. That you don’t like it is irrelevant. In point of opinion it is worse than that.

The childlike whining of the right over this is not simply disgusting. It is agitprop designed to “white”-wash history consigning the founding flaw to the garbage while continuing the ideology wrapped up in new ribbons and wrapping. The Southern strategy was real. Speaking in code while trying to conceal hatred by racist was, is and always will be real.

Sooner or later we will all be dead. And unless destruction of racism as well as facing its creation, implementation and attempted continuation is dealt with it will continue long after we are dead.

Personally, I do not care that you are a whiner. I do care that you think the singular event in the 400 years of white people being on this continent is somehow insignificant or damaging to today’s white people. Those who whine about CRT and the like are helping the continuation of the ideology. Whether you are a racist or not is irrelevant. You are a useful fool at best or a fellow traveler at worst with those who seek to destroy history all because some people’s feelings might get hurt.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

It is an ideology. It has roots in Roman and Greek antiquity. Can someone change their belief structure? Sure. It does happen but it also takes a lot of work and the willingness to change by the person. That you or I know it is wrong is irrelevant to those who cling to the ideology. A racist does not think he has an affliction. He sees danger in the form of the other. That is the essence of tribalism which has existed for millennia and will continue, most likely, to exist as long as humans are on the planet.

No, it isn't an ideology, and it is rooted in the fear of being eaten by animals that man hunted and that were just part of our environment plus parasites and pathogens. We are in fact who we are because for most of our history we were prey. That's the "other" man's mind had to fear. That's when the mind developed this need. But, now it's a malady. And now it is up to every one of us to identify it when it arises and teach our minds to let it go. We have to live with the fear, anxiety, racism, etc., evolution nessasarily left us with.

 

[bird]

No, it isn't an ideology, and it is rooted in the fear of being eaten by animals that man hunted and that were just part of our environment plus parasites and pathogens. We are in fact who we are because for most of our history we were prey. That's the "other" man's mind had to fear. That's when the mind developed this need. But, now it's a malady. And now it is up to every one of us to identify it when it arises and teach our minds to let it go. We have to live with the fear, anxiety, racism, etc., evolution nessasarily left us with.

Yes, it is an ideology. “The Origins of Racism in the West” edited by Miriam Eliav-Feldon and Joseph Ziegler discuss the origins from antiquity in Rome and Greece.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Yes, it is an ideology. “The Origins of Racism in the West” edited by Miriam Eliav-Feldon and Joseph Ziegler discuss the origins from antiquity in Rome and Greece.

No, it's not an ideology and the brain developed L O N G before Rome and Greece. For the human brain, antiquity in Rome and Greece is just a few minutes ago.

How the Human Brain Evolved to Be Racist

Evolution primed us to fear anyone who is different because they might reduce the likelihood of our survival—and we may become aggressive in response to this fear.

www.psychologytoday.com

How the Human Brain Evolved to Be Racist​

Racism is an evolutionary-conserved emergent property of brains.​

Posted May 2, 2021 Reviewed by Devon Frye
According to the dictionary, racism is antagonism directed against a person on the basis of their membership in a racial or ethnic group that is different from your own. As a neuroscientist, I view racism through a unique, but not necessarily clearer, lens.

Given the apparent universality of racism around the world, it stands to reason that racism must be an essential emergent property of brains that has survived throughout our evolution. Given that brains evolved to perform only two things—survive and procreate more brains—then racism must have been conserved as a behavior that supports one of these two goals. The most obvious choice is survival. How does being aggressive towards others that do not share your physical or genetic traits improve your survival?

The answer, from the standpoint of the brain’s functioning, depends upon knowing about the function of a small almond-shaped structure, the amygdala, and its companion, the hippocampus. They both live on the lateral sides of the brain, not far from each ear. The amygdala and hippocampus receive information from your eyes and ears (as well as many other inputs).

These two brain regions assess the information and answer a simple question: is this familiar? If what you are seeing or hearing is unfamiliar according to your hippocampus, the amygdala generates fear. For example, if you are in an unfamiliar location and you see people you do not know or look unfamiliar, then your brain may generate fear. If the information you are seeing or hearing is ambiguous or inappropriate, the amygdala may generate fear. If you notice that someone you do not know is staring at you, your brain may generate fear. Humans hate being stared at. Giving a speech in front of a crowd is horribly frightening to most people. If you were seated with friends in a familiar location and a small child kept staring at you from across the room, you may become fearful. We fear the unknown, the unfamiliar, or the unexpected. Because of this, we may fear people who do not share our appearance or genes or behaviors.

Almost without fail, and regardless of the nature of the information gathered by your vigilant brain, the amygdala usually comes to the same conclusion: be afraid.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Overcoming racism:

The Egalitarian Brain

Research on the neuroscience of prejudice is revealing how the brain can overcome our fears and racial biases, reports David Amodio.

greatergood.berkeley.edu

The neuroscience of egalitarianism
How exactly does the neocortex keep our prejudices at bay? Most people would agree that non-prejudiced behavior involves treating people equally, regardless of their group membership. Indeed, what we really mean by “controlling prejudice” is sticking to one’s goal in an interaction—whether it’s asking for directions or evaluating a job candidate—without being influenced by race (or gender, or sexual orientation, etc.).

While studies have shown that people are generally unable to deliberately turn down the intensity of a feeling or a stereotypic thought, people are quite effective at responding to those thoughts or feelings in a way that blocks the actual expression of bias. In other words, people can overcome racism by keeping their eyes on the prize. The brain cannot be anti-racist, per se, because it never stops spotting differences and sorting people into categories. But it is pro-goal—and if the goal is to make judgments without regard to race, the brain can do that, though it may take a bit of effort and practice.

 

[bird]

No, it's not an ideology and the brain developed L O N G before Rome and Greece. For the human brain, antiquity in Rome and Greece is just a few minutes ago.

How the Human Brain Evolved to Be Racist

Evolution primed us to fear anyone who is different because they might reduce the likelihood of our survival—and we may become aggressive in response to this fear.

www.psychologytoday.com

How the Human Brain Evolved to Be Racist​

Racism is an evolutionary-conserved emergent property of brains.​

Posted May 2, 2021 Reviewed by Devon Frye
According to the dictionary, racism is antagonism directed against a person on the basis of their membership in a racial or ethnic group that is different from your own. As a neuroscientist, I view racism through a unique, but not necessarily clearer, lens.

Given the apparent universality of racism around the world, it stands to reason that racism must be an essential emergent property of brains that has survived throughout our evolution. Given that brains evolved to perform only two things—survive and procreate more brains—then racism must have been conserved as a behavior that supports one of these two goals. The most obvious choice is survival. How does being aggressive towards others that do not share your physical or genetic traits improve your survival?

The answer, from the standpoint of the brain’s functioning, depends upon knowing about the function of a small almond-shaped structure, the amygdala, and its companion, the hippocampus. They both live on the lateral sides of the brain, not far from each ear. The amygdala and hippocampus receive information from your eyes and ears (as well as many other inputs).

These two brain regions assess the information and answer a simple question: is this familiar? If what you are seeing or hearing is unfamiliar according to your hippocampus, the amygdala generates fear. For example, if you are in an unfamiliar location and you see people you do not know or look unfamiliar, then your brain may generate fear. If the information you are seeing or hearing is ambiguous or inappropriate, the amygdala may generate fear. If you notice that someone you do not know is staring at you, your brain may generate fear. Humans hate being stared at. Giving a speech in front of a crowd is horribly frightening to most people. If you were seated with friends in a familiar location and a small child kept staring at you from across the room, you may become fearful. We fear the unknown, the unfamiliar, or the unexpected. Because of this, we may fear people who do not share our appearance or genes or behaviors.

Almost without fail, and regardless of the nature of the information gathered by your vigilant brain, the amygdala usually comes to the same conclusion: be afraid.

Organized racism is most certainly ideology. Why? Because race does not exist. It is a man created construct. Beyond that the assigning of certain characteristics to those others deemed to be of a different race is consciously done by power structures. Fear of the other is well known. Organized racism is recent just as you noted. Power holders and power structures are required to keep in place the belief that others are sub-human due to the characteristics that are deemed immutable and unchangeable. If racism were able to be eliminated by so-called goal orientation it would have worn away by now. It hasn’t worn away because the ideology is taught by elders to children and reinforced through social institutions thus systemic racism. An individual most certainly can eliminate his/her racism but destruction of social institutions that support racism requires far more than that. It also requires destruction of the ideology.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Organized racism is most certainly ideology. Why? Because race does not exist. It is a man created construct. Beyond that the assigning of certain characteristics to those others deemed to be of a different race is consciously done by power structures. Fear of the other is well known. Organized racism is recent just as you noted. Power holders and power structures are required to keep in place the belief that others are sub-human due to the characteristics that are deemed immutable and unchangeable. If racism were able to be eliminated by so-called goal orientation it would have worn away by now. It hasn’t worn away because the ideology is taught by elders to children and reinforced through social institutions thus systemic racism. An individual most certainly can eliminate his/her racism but destruction of social institutions that support racism requires far more than that. It also requires destruction of the ideology.

Give it up. Racism isn't an ideology, nor is it taught. It's a human brain created survival tool that's been around at least as long as the modern human brain has been around which is well over a million years. And yes, individuals can work past reacting to it.

BTW, if you could wave a magic wand and eliminate "organized racism" humans would be right back at it the next day and before long it would be organized again because that's who we are.

 

[bird]

Give it up. Racism isn't an ideology, nor is it taught. It's a human brain created survival tool that's been around at least as long as the modern human brain has been around which is well over a million years. And yes, individuals can work past reacting to it.

BTW, if you could wave a magic wand and eliminate "organized racism" humans would be right back at it the next day and before long it would be organized again because that's who we are.

Btw, you are wrong.

According to Yad Vashem Nazism is a racist ideology.

Roots of Nazi Ideology

Nazi ideology was total, in that it was a world view that claimed to explain everything about the world and how it functions.At its core, the Nazi world view was racist and biological, positing that the so-called “Aryan” race – primarily the North Europeans – was the superior race of human beings

www.yadvashem.org

According to the UN apartheid is a racist ideology.

The Struggle against Apartheid: Lessons for Today's World | United Nations

The United Nations has been concerned with the issue of racial discrimination since its inception. The UN General Assembly adopted on 19 November 1946 during its first session a resolution declaring that it is in the higher interests of humanity to put an immediate end to religious and so-called...

www.un.org

When racism is enshrined as law in the political economy of a society/state it IS ideology whether you like it or not. That the lizard brain, amygdala, comes into play regarding fear of the unknown does not change the FACT that institutionalized racism is an ideology. Furthermore, a child does not come into the world afraid of other children who have different skin color. Adults teach them that skin color means something and that something is generally bad and a threat.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Btw, you are wrong.

According to Yad Vashem Nazism is a racist ideology.

Roots of Nazi Ideology

Nazi ideology was total, in that it was a world view that claimed to explain everything about the world and how it functions.At its core, the Nazi world view was racist and biological, positing that the so-called “Aryan” race – primarily the North Europeans – was the superior race of human beings

www.yadvashem.org

According to the UN apartheid is a racist ideology.

The Struggle against Apartheid: Lessons for Today's World | United Nations

The United Nations has been concerned with the issue of racial discrimination since its inception. The UN General Assembly adopted on 19 November 1946 during its first session a resolution declaring that it is in the higher interests of humanity to put an immediate end to religious and so-called...

www.un.org

When racism is enshrined as law in the political economy of a society/state it IS ideology whether you like it or not. That the lizard brain, amygdala, comes into play regarding fear of the unknown does not change the FACT that institutionalized racism is an ideology. Furthermore, a child does not come into the world afraid of other children who have different skin color. Adults teach them that skin color means something and that something is generally bad and a threat.

BTW, you're wrong. Why do we have "institutionalized racism"? Because evolution has shaped the brain in such a manner that it selects in a racist manner. Obviously.

 

[bird]

BTW, you're wrong. Why do we have "institutionalized racism"? Because evolution has shaped the brain in such a manner that it selects in a racist manner. Obviously.

So evolution selected racism as a trait? That is a load of crap. Fight or flight, sure. Racism? No. Race. Does. Not. Exist. Fear followed by institutionalizing fear via political economy is not evolution. Tribalism aka fear of the other aka fear of the unknown is part of fight or flight. Racism is created. Racism enshrined as law/social mores is ideology.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

So evolution selected racism as a trait? That is a load of crap. Fight or flight, sure. Racism? No. Race. Does. Not. Exist. Fear followed by institutionalizing fear via political economy is not evolution. Tribalism aka fear of the other aka fear of the unknown is part of fight or flight. Racism is created. Racism enshrined as law/social mores is ideology.

Oh my god. It's all been explained to you. Frankly, you're acting, well, ...................... I'll leave it at that.

"Racism is an evolutionary-conserved emergent property of brains."