All things political. Coronavirus Edition. (14 Viewers)

[Maxp]

I fear we are really going to be in a bad place due to the obvious cuts to the federal agencies that deal with infectious disease, but also the negative effect the Affordable Care act has had on non urban hospitals. Our front line defenses are ineffectual and our ability to treat the populous is probably at an all time low. Factor in the cost of healthcare and I can see our system crashing. What do you think about the politics of this virus?

 

[Saintamaniac]

Republican Sen. Kelly Loeffler admits to millions MORE in stock sales

Georgia Republican Sen. Kelly Loeffler and her husband traded about $1.4 million in stocks in March, in a period after a closed briefing warned senators of the threat posed by the coronavirus.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Not surprised by this at all. The fact that any elected official is allowed to trade stocks while being privy to information that no one else knows about is in and of itself an invitation for abuse. IMO, elected officials shouldn't be allowed to trade any stocks save for those that have stocks tied up in 401k's. If they want to trade stocks, don't run for public office. No one is forced to run for office.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

You're phrasing the questions like a cross-examination . . . or a freshman class in philosophy.
This isn't a courtroom or a classroom.
I've answered your question repeatedly, but you just don't want to accept my answers because they're not what you want for me to say.
You didn't answer my Powerball question.

Just because you clicked 'Reply' and typed something doesn't mean you actually answered the question.

DD, which situation do you think is better for the American people as it related to our government: a blanket refusal to hold crooked politicians accountable or a system where crooked politicians are held accountable in a public manner through the mechanisms provided by the Constitution?

 

[brandon]

Oh, you might mention that anybody who owes child support will see their economic stimulus go to stimulate their ex and his/her new spouse. I've got a relative or two that are really P.O.'d about that.

Sounds like you have some deadbeats in your family.

Just because you clicked 'Reply' and typed something doesn't mean you actually answered the question.

DD, which situation do you think is better for the American people as it related to our government: a blanket refusal to hold crooked politicians accountable or a system where crooked politicians are held accountable in a public manner through the mechanisms provided by the Constitution?

Keep posting this until he answers it. If you stop, I’m gonna start.

 

[donato]

The reason you couldn't see my posts is because I blocked you. Then I reconsidered. I'm here to engage in open and honest discussion. Blocking people is antithetical to that.

You may be here for that, but he's not. I'm about to block him myself. I've got better things to do with my time than read his evasive, disingenuous, irrelevant posts.

 

[Saintamaniac]

Just because you clicked 'Reply' and typed something doesn't mean you actually answered the question.

DD, which situation do you think is better for the American people as it related to our government: a blanket refusal to hold crooked politicians accountable or a system where crooked politicians are held accountable in a public manner through the mechanisms provided by the Constitution?

The question you have been asking requires a simple yes or no response. When someone refuses to answer a question with the simplest answer it is usually because their answer runs counter to something that they have previous said, it doesn't support the theme of the philosophy they have espoused or it simply makes them look stupid. It's a sure sign of a very weak or non-existent argument to begin with. You're asking for a reasoned, well thought out and sensible answer from someone who purports themselves to be a learned individual when in actuality they are intimidated in the face of people who are just as learned if not more so than themselves. It's an exercise in futility. People like that have a hard time admitting that they are not as learned and knowledgeable as they thought they were.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

The question you have been asking requires a simple yes or no response. When someone refuses to answer a question with the simplest answer it is usually because their answer runs counter to something that they have previous said, it doesn't support the theme of the philosophy they have espoused or it simply makes them look stupid. It's a sure sign of a very weak or non-existent argument to begin with. You're asking for a reasoned, well thought out and sensible answer from someone who purports themselves to be a learned individual when in actuality they are intimidated in the face of people who are just as learned if not more so than their attempt to portray themselves. It's an exercise in futility people like that have a hard time admitting that they are not as learned and knowledgeable as they thought they were.

This all day long. That's the entire point of the "freshman philosophy" crack that I believe he's made more than once. The implication that the person still has more to learn before they are on his level. It's condescension at it's finest.

 

[Farb]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...xtent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says

This isnt good.

 

[Beach Friends]

You may be here for that, but he's not. I'm about to block him myself. I've got better things to do with my time than read his evasive, disingenuous, irrelevant posts.

If you want to put him on ignore just do it. But, this yacking back and forth about him is obviously just meant to agitate.

I doubt any one is going to lose any sleep by the fact that you can't see their posts and therefore can't drop an emoji.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...xtent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says

This isnt good.

And they're still doing it. However, some countries (and American politicians) were smart enough to be prepared anyway (and sell their stocks)... so the question is, why wasn't the US Federal government?

 

[dtc]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...xtent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says

This isnt good.

My facebook feed has been blowing up with all the "you can't trust China" , "china was lying about CV" all day.

I guess it's circulating on right wing sites as some sort of excuse for Trump to use to excuse his inaction and misinformation.

My question to you is why would anyone have ever assumed China was going to tell us the truth? How does an administration founded on a trade war with China because China manipulates thier currency, steals our intellectual property and is a nasty authoritarian state blame China's lack of transparency for our own lack of preparedness and an inadequate response?

We know not to trust them. Trump tells us they're liars. And, here you are and others telling us it's not his fault because they lied to him.

Is that correct? If not, do tell?

And, while you're at it, please do include how firing and defunding the specific intelligence office previously tasked with spying on China's health and other emerging virus threat locales is not a bad thing.

How does our lack of adequate response get explained away by saying China doesn't tell the truth after we fired the spies who we had monitoring the likelihood that a potential pandemic could arise in their region?

 

[not2rich]

And they're still doing it. However, some countries (and American politicians) were smart enough to be prepared anyway (and sell their stocks)... so the question is, why wasn't the US Federal government?

Because Trump thinks he has a great relationship with Xi and thought China was doing a great job on dealing with the virus. The Trump cheerleaders on here carrying his water while making China out to be the bad guy would be, to say the least, singing a different tune if Obama was President and had said verifiable quotes praising China while the virus was spreading in the U.S.

 

[Eeyore]

Pence, in Craziest Lie Yet, Denies Trump Ever Downplayed the Coronavirus

“I don’t believe the president has ever belittled the threat of the coronavirus.” What?

nymag.com

 

[superchuck500]

 

[Beach Friends]

This sounds promising:

 

[The moose]

My God that sure is a bunch to take in with that article.

My head is spinning.

 

[wardorican]

Quite the article. Mostly, while it's odd, it actually is showing a lot of positive things being done by Kushner leading this team of "non-governmental actors" to get the big dogs in industry moving in the right areas. He's essentially coordinating part of the Private sector.

It's actually smart.

It's also very dangerous and he's likely profiting off of it. He's essentially acting like a deal broker.

 

[Sledge Hammer]

I think one good thing about these press briefings is that the not only is the nation getting to see President Trump and his mastery of this crisis, but we are also getting to see that Mike Pence is up for the challenges that await him when Trump turns over the keys to the kingdom in January 2005.

2005? He'll go back in time to Erase Obama's Legacy?

 

[The moose]

Quite the article. Mostly, while it's odd, it actually is showing a lot of positive things being done by Kushner leading this team of "non-governmental actors" to get the big dogs in industry moving in the right areas. He's essentially coordinating part of the Private sector.

It's actually smart.

It's also very dangerous and he's likely profiting off of it. He's essentially acting like a deal broker.

He is definitely profiting from it. They are all definitely seeing real profit.

This is the exact reason the defense production act was not used months ago.