All things political. Coronavirus Edition. (5 Viewers)

[Maxp]

I fear we are really going to be in a bad place due to the obvious cuts to the federal agencies that deal with infectious disease, but also the negative effect the Affordable Care act has had on non urban hospitals. Our front line defenses are ineffectual and our ability to treat the populous is probably at an all time low. Factor in the cost of healthcare and I can see our system crashing. What do you think about the politics of this virus?

 

[Taurus]

Omg Trumps words. Did Covid hear what Trump said and then that changed how they infected people?

It's obvious you don't believe it was a lab leak. For arguments sake let's say it was a lab leak. Considering we know for a fact that the US funded the Wuhan lab, what do you think should happen? Should the people who were involved be held responsible? Should gain of function research be banned?

Don't care.

Trump should be shot for treason either way.

In fact, if it was an international release, a bio warfare first-strike as it were, his retreat into fantasy and deliberate assistance in said attack qualifies him for the firing squad even more.

 

[MT15]

SFL, it would be really stupid to ban gain of function research. For one thing, it’s not a very clear, cut-and dried term. And most vaccine research relies on either gain or loss of function research.

We have some very promising mRNA vaccines in the pipeline for melanoma and pancreatic cancer. Who knows what will be next. You would throw that away because of a disputed theory about the origins of Covid? Where almost all of the scientists come down on natural origin?

There were 2 strains of the virus that appeared in Wuhan at about the same time. One died out, and one didn’t. Nobody associated with the lab had early Covid, and 12 out of the first 17-18 cases had a direct link to the market. The genetic analysis of the virus shows a strong indication of a natural origin.

It is hilarious to me that you normally spit on every statement from the intelligence community and the FBI and assume they are lying at every turn, but when they say something you like - suddenly you believe them over independent scientists? Plus the intelligence and FBI assessments were put out before the last round of research was published. For all we know they have re-evaluated by now.

 

[SaintForLife]

Don't care.

Trump should be shot for treason either way.

In fact, if it was an international release, a bio warfare first-strike as it were, his retreat into fantasy and deliberate assistance in said attack qualifies him for the firing squad even more.

Wow, you are crazy.

 

[MT15]

Fauci spearheaded one of the most brazen coverups in recent history.

The US government had been financing gain-of-function bat research at the Wuhan Institute. That type of experimentation genetically alters organisms to enable the spread of viruses into new species. Such research is extremely dangerous.

The risks were compounded because the Wuhan Institute had a very poor safety rating, according to the US State Department.

But Fauci believed the 'best and brightest' could outsmart Mother Nature.

In 2012, he declared it was 'unlikely but conceivable' that gain-of-function research would 'trigger a pandemic.

"He was confident 'the resulting knowledge outweighs the risks.

Fauci will sit early next week for two days of depositions to explain his role in funding the Wuhan Institute of Virology, his efforts to debunk the 'lab leak' theory,…and federal censorship.

The subcommittee announced Fauci's 'honesty is non-negotiable.

But will his memory stage another boycott?

When Fauci was deposed in late 2022…, he claimed 174 times 'I don’t recall'— including about damning and quite memorable emails he sent.

Fauci will fetch a team of four lawyers to the deposition, rigging the odds against candor.

Posting this crap, and it is absolute pile of shirt slanderous crap, and you have the nerve to say anyone else is crazy?

 

[MT15]

He said the current science which a vague statement that doesn't mean anything.

That is the opposite of a vague statement. The current science is the current science. That’s what we've all been trying to tell you. Currently there is a consensus that Covid came from animal sources.

Look at some scientific papers, recent ones. You’re stuck in 2020 because that is where you are getting all your statements that it came from the lab.

And it doesn’t really matter where it came from, does it? It doesn’t excuse Trump’s horrible response that IMO borders on criminal. Remember when nobody in NY could get PPE? Turns out that was a deliberate decision by Kushner to withhold it from “blue” states. Do you remember how many health care workers - young healthy people - died in that first wave?

Trump cause an extra 100,000 deaths in this country because of his inept response. Of course his minions and RW apologists want to deflect from that and point the blame at the scientists. It’s a despicable act of moral depravity on their part.

 

[SaintForLife]

Posting this crap, and it is absolute pile of shirt slanderous crap, and you have the nerve to say anyone else is crazy?

It's all true. Did I call for Fauci to be shot like Taurus did with Trump? Not quite.

 

[MT15]

It's all true. Did I call for Fauci to be shot like Taurus did with Trump? Not quite.

None of it is true. None of it.

 

[Farb]

It's all true. Did I call for Fauci to be shot like Taurus did with Trump? Not quite.

Trump derangement syndrome is alive and well I see with the left still.

But what do I know, I was supposed to be dead 2 winters of death and misery ago according to 'science' and at least one person on here, since I didn't get the sacrament of the jab.

 

[SaintForLife]

That is the opposite of a vague statement. The current science is the current science. That’s what we've all been trying to tell you. Currently there is a consensus that Covid came from animal sources.

Current science is vague statement. He could have pointed to specific studies or specific virologists, etc. There isn't a consensus like you claim. There is no evidence for zoonotic origin, but there is circumstantial evidence of a lab leak.

Look at some scientific papers, recent ones. You’re stuck in 2020 because that is where you are getting all your statements that it came from the lab.

And it doesn’t really matter where it came from, does it? It doesn’t excuse Trump’s horrible response that IMO borders on criminal. Remember when nobody in NY could get PPE? Turns out that was a deliberate decision by Kushner to withhold it from “blue” states. Do you remember how many health care workers - young healthy people - died in that first wave?

Yes it matters where it came from. If it was a lab leak due to inadequate safety protocols in Wuhan and Fauci and others lied to cover up the US funding and involvement then they should be held accountable.

Trump cause an extra 100,000 deaths in this country because of his inept response. Of course his minions and RW apologists want to deflect from that and point the blame at the scientists. It’s a despicable act of moral depravity on their part.

Finding out what really happened with Covid isn't to protect Trump. That an excuse from the Fauci defenders who want to deflect and distract.

 

[SaintForLife]

Trump derangement syndrome is alive and well I see with the left still.

But what do I know, I was supposed to be dead 2 winters of death and misery ago according to 'science' and at least one person on here, since I didn't get the sacrament of the jab.

They all lied to us and they hate that we are even discussing their lies and deceit.

 

[faceman]

Trump derangement syndrome is alive and well I see with the left still.

But what do I know, I was supposed to be dead 2 winters of death and misery ago according to 'science' and at least one person on here, since I didn't get the sacrament of the jab.

Narcissistic personality disorder - Symptoms and causes

www.mayoclinic.org

Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence, they are not sure of their self-worth and are easily upset by the slightest criticism.


The above describes Trump to a T.

 

[faceman]

They all lied to us and they hate that we are even discussing their lies and deceit.

You sir are the one lying to yourself

 

[SaintForLife]

You sir are the one lying to yourself

 

[MT15]

There is no evidence for zoonotic origin, but there is circumstantial evidence of a lab leak.

This is just the opposite of true. It’s a lie, being told to you. We have shown you evidence for zoonotic origin in the last couple of days. How can you sit there and repeat the lie above?

 

[MT15]

Show me 1 legitimate scientist who thinks it was a lab leak at this point in time.

 

[SaintForLife]

This is just the opposite of true. It’s a lie, being told to you. We have shown you evidence for zoonotic origin in the last couple of days. How can you sit there and repeat the lie above?

The study that included the fraudulent Kristian Andersen?

 

[cuddlemonkey]

The study that included the fraudulent Kristian Andersen?

If you are going to disqualify every source that has been wrong or misleading in the past, you're going to be left with nothing. You have an incredible ability to bury your head in the sand and then insist that what you can't see due to your self-imposed darkness doesn't actually exist.

 

[faceman]

The study that included the fraudulent Kristian Andersen?

Changing ones mind due to new findings does not make someone fraudulent.