All things political. Coronavirus Edition. (2 Viewers)

[Maxp]

I fear we are really going to be in a bad place due to the obvious cuts to the federal agencies that deal with infectious disease, but also the negative effect the Affordable Care act has had on non urban hospitals. Our front line defenses are ineffectual and our ability to treat the populous is probably at an all time low. Factor in the cost of healthcare and I can see our system crashing. What do you think about the politics of this virus?

 

[Farb]

I didn’t see him defending anything. Q anon you need to upgrade the firmware on this chat bot

Don't be so quick on the pronouns.

Your quote... So you quote something and when asked to defend it play innocent. I've had it. You are trolling and goes on ignore...

I posted a bunch of article as well as the release from NY state after the original article had problems because wiki editors didn't like the source.

I have no idea what article you pulled that from or if I posted it, the link to the article that I pulled it from was just above it. Honestly not sure what you are wanting?

 

[MT15]

This is funny. I will wait for everyone who was incensed at Kap for merely taking a knee during the National Anthem to really roast this guy for bringing politics into “their” football. LOL



To be clear, Rodgers denied the report, but Boomer said it was a “trusted” source. Still funny.

 

[MT15]

 

[SamAndreas]

I've been watching the Supreme Court testimony from today's double header. I'm about half through, which is almost all of the way through the first case, that being the OSHA emergency Covid rules that apply to business with 100 or more employees.

All of the media articles I've seen so far are projecting that the court seems posed to rule against the Administration's position. Posed to block that emergency rule.

My opinion after listening to the testimony is not that pessimistic. I feel there is a good chance that the court will uphold the Administration's position 5 to 4. I have Roberts down as supporting the liberal position, and a maybe for Barrett.

That impression regarding Barrett as a maybe is based upon just one question she asked, and a comment she made after that question was answered, so that prediction is awfully thin. Barely more than a toss up.

It could easily go the other way. But I'm clearly more optimistic about this than anyone else I have seen in the media when talking about this.



I haven't heard the second case's testimony yet, and what I hear there might change my impression about the first case as well as be the basis for the second case.

I doubt that I will have listened to that case until tomorrow.

 

[MT15]

This is exceedingly stupid. Like world class level stupid.

 

[Farb]

This is exceedingly stupid. Like world class level stupid.

Why?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Why?

Before COVID what could I catch from you that could land me in the ICU a week from now?

 

[MT15]

Why?

You cannot think of any times we get tested when we aren’t ill?

yearly blood work at the doctor, Pap smears, mammograms, PSA testing, colonoscopies.

All sorts of testing done without any symptoms at all. He is just trying to deflect from the fact that he let over 800,000 tests expire. That is pure incompetence.

 

[Farb]

Routine medical procedures/tests vs. a test for a virus that is now like the flu? Do we test for the flu? You do know this is a strawman, right?

I thought Biden was going to have plenty of at home tests available for his 'war on the virus'?

 

[Taurus]

Routine medical procedures/tests vs. a test for a virus that is now like the flu? Do we test for the flu? You do know this is a strawman, right?

I thought Biden was going to have plenty of at home tests available for his 'war on the virus'?

And Trump said Covid would be gone by April, like magic. (April 2020, that is)

 

[Farb]

And Trump said Covid would be gone by April, like magic. (April 2020, that is)

We call that 'whataboutism'.

 

[MT15]

Routine medical procedures/tests vs. a test for a virus that is now like the flu? Do we test for the flu? You do know this is a strawman, right?

I thought Biden was going to have plenty of at home tests available for his 'war on the virus'?

Yes, we test for the flu. Quite a bit, actually, as well as mono, strep throat, RSV, trich, the clap. Dozens, if not hundreds of other communicable diseases. I do not think you know what a straw man is, actually. That was not it.

They got caught flat footed for the at-home tests. But still, we have been able to find them pretty regularly, just maybe have to go to one additional drug store when the first one is out.

 

[Taurus]

We call that 'whataboutism'.

So you can recognize it. Good to know.

 

[Farb]

So you can recognize it. Good to know.

I was informed I was incorrect, so that was not a strawman. I guess we both don't know what a strawman is. Sorry.

 

[Farb]

Yes, we test for the flu. Quite a bit, actually, as well as mono, strep throat, RSV, trich, the clap. Dozens, if not hundreds of other communicable diseases. I do not think you know what a straw man is, actually. That was not it.

They got caught flat footed for the at-home tests. But still, we have been able to find them pretty regularly, just maybe have to go to one additional drug store when the first one is out.

I don't recall, besides during pre-op and regular medical tests during a physical, being tested for anything when I felt 'not' sick, but I am sure I am incorrect and this has been going on for at least 2 years.

 

[MT15]

I was informed I was incorrect, so that was not a strawman. I guess we both don't know what a strawman is. Sorry.

He was referring to your correct identification of whataboutism.

 

[MT15]

I don't recall, besides during pre-op and regular medical tests during a physical, being tested for anything when I felt 'not' sick, but I am sure I am incorrect and this has been going on for at least 2 years.

Why exclude routine and regular medical tests? Are they not tests? You can use a Covid test as a screening test just like all the other tests you just admitted that you have. Seems pretty arbitrary to say you don’t get tested when you’re not sick, except for all these other tests. Why would you draw a line between them, I mean other than defending an idiotic statement by DeSantis, lol.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I wonder is this county has any other vaccine requirements
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As the U.S. Supreme Court continues to review a federal vaccine mandate, Maury County Mayor Andy Ogles said he will not force county employees to comply if the federal requirement becomes law.

An initial stage of President Joe Biden’s vaccine mandate, reflected by a new policy issued by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, began this week for companies with more than 100 employees as the mandate continues to be challenged in the Supreme Court.

Ogles sent an email to Maury County employees on Monday stating his position about the vaccine mandate under review that would require all employees at businesses with 100 employees or more to get vaccinated or tested for COVID-19 weekly.

“Maury County Government will not comply with any OSHA mandate that forces an employee to be vaccinated against their will,” Ogles said in the email.

The county employees about 480 people.

The outspoken Republican emphasized that he is not against vaccination for the virus but opposes the OSHA mandate.

“Your healthcare is your business, and I will willfully go to jail before forcing any of you to take the vaccine,” Ogles said. "No one who works for Maury County will be forced to take the vaccine. If you want it, I hope you sign up."

Members of the public held a protest in November outside Maury Regional Medical Center in opposition to another separate federal mandate, requiring all health care workers to be vaccinated for COVID-19............

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