All Things LGBTQ+ (8 Viewers)

[Farb]

Didn't really see a place for this so I thought I would start a thread about all things LGBTQ since this is a pretty hot topic in our culture right now

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/sup...y-that-refuses-to-work-with-lgbt-couples.html

• The Supreme Court on Thursday delivered a unanimous defeat to LGBT couples in a high-profile case over whether Philadelphia could refuse to contract with a Roman Catholic adoption agency that says its religious beliefs prevent it from working with same-sex foster parents.
• Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in an opinion for a majority of the court that Philadelphia violated the First Amendment by refusing to contract with Catholic Social Services once it learned that the organization would not certify same-sex couples for adoption.

I will admit, I was hopeful for this decision by the SCOTUS but I was surprised by the unanimous decision.

While I don't think there is anything wrong, per se, with same sex couples adopting and raising children (I actually think it is a good thing as it not an abortion) but I also did not want to see the state force a religious institution to bend to a societal norm.

 

[Farb]

Sorry. That doesn't debunk the dossier. Nor does that exonerate Trump.

Naturally. Nothing will ever exonerate Trump. I get that.

 

[Farb]

To get this off of Trump, yalls favorite subject....

https://www.foxnews.com/us/transgender-ca-woman-molesting-sentenced

Prosecutors say Tubbs walked into the bathroom of a Denny’s in 2014 and grabbed the 10-year-old by the throat, locked her in a stall, and put her hand down the girl’s pants. Tubbs stopped when another person walked into the restroom, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Because Tubbs began identifying as female after she was taken into custody, and Gascon refused to try her as an adult, Tubbs was sentenced to two years in a juvenile facility. In L.A. County, juvenile facilities can house both females and males, but in separate areas. Tubbs will be housed with the females.

Two years is the maximum sentence for any juvenile in the new program over the age of 25, according to Deputy District Attorney Shea Sanna.


I guess we will chalk to this up to things that will never happen?

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

To get this off of Trump, yalls favorite subject....

https://www.foxnews.com/us/transgender-ca-woman-molesting-sentenced

Prosecutors say Tubbs walked into the bathroom of a Denny’s in 2014 and grabbed the 10-year-old by the throat, locked her in a stall, and put her hand down the girl’s pants. Tubbs stopped when another person walked into the restroom, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Because Tubbs began identifying as female after she was taken into custody, and Gascon refused to try her as an adult, Tubbs was sentenced to two years in a juvenile facility. In L.A. County, juvenile facilities can house both females and males, but in separate areas. Tubbs will be housed with the females.

Two years is the maximum sentence for any juvenile in the new program over the age of 25, according to Deputy District Attorney Shea Sanna.


I guess we will chalk to this up to things that will never happen?

Stupid story is stupid.

First, the alleged assault happened 8 years ago when the assailant was a 17 year old BOY. The story doesn't say when the 26 year old transgender woman was arrested and then it goes on, in a typical Fox way, to blame liberals for not prosecuting this 26 year old for attacking a 10yr old in the bathroom. DUMB.

Second, you could have done a better job and just linked us to the source material that fox butchered.

Tubbs, who identifies as female, was two weeks shy of her 18th birthday when prosecutors say she walked into the women’s restroom of a Denny’s restaurant in 2014, grabbed a 10-year-old girl by the throat and locked her in a stall, court records show. Tubbs then shoved her hand down the girl’s pants and sexually assaulted her, prosecutors say, stopping only after someone else entered the restroom.

The case drew widespread attention at the time, and the L.A. County Board of Supervisors issued a $20,000 reward for information leading to an arrest. But Tubbs was not linked to the crime until 2019, when her DNA was entered into a database after she was arrested on suspicion of battery in Idaho, said Lt. Richard Ruiz of the L.A. County Sheriff’s Department’s Special Victims Bureau.

Sexual assault of 10-year-old sparks latest criticism of L.A. district attorney’s policies

A 26-year-old who pleaded guilty to the sexual assault of a 10-year-old girl will end up in juvenile custody or be set free on probation, despite a criminal record that includes another allegation of sexual abuse of a child.

www.latimes.com

And to be clear, this is your favorite subject! I couldn't care less about transgender people.

 

[bird]

Naturally. Nothing will ever exonerate Trump. I get that.

Did you write something that actually is responsive? If so, I am sorry I missed it.

 

[bird]

To get this off of Trump, yalls favorite subject....

https://www.foxnews.com/us/transgender-ca-woman-molesting-sentenced

Prosecutors say Tubbs walked into the bathroom of a Denny’s in 2014 and grabbed the 10-year-old by the throat, locked her in a stall, and put her hand down the girl’s pants. Tubbs stopped when another person walked into the restroom, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Because Tubbs began identifying as female after she was taken into custody, and Gascon refused to try her as an adult, Tubbs was sentenced to two years in a juvenile facility. In L.A. County, juvenile facilities can house both females and males, but in separate areas. Tubbs will be housed with the females.

Two years is the maximum sentence for any juvenile in the new program over the age of 25, according to Deputy District Attorney Shea Sanna.


I guess we will chalk to this up to things that will never happen?

No, we chalk it up to people will be azzholes. Sorry if that doesn’t mesh with your worldview.

 

[Farb]

Stupid story is stupid.

First, the alleged assault happened 8 years ago when the assailant was a 17 year old BOY. The story doesn't say when the 26 year old transgender woman was arrested and then it goes on, in a typical Fox way, to blame liberals for not prosecuting this 26 year old for attacking a 10yr old in the bathroom. DUMB.

Second, you could have done a better job and just linked us to the source material that fox butchered.

Sexual assault of 10-year-old sparks latest criticism of L.A. district attorney’s policies

A 26-year-old who pleaded guilty to the sexual assault of a 10-year-old girl will end up in juvenile custody or be set free on probation, despite a criminal record that includes another allegation of sexual abuse of a child.

www.latimes.com

And to be clear, this is your favorite subject! I couldn't care less about transgender people.

Should we blame conservatives for allowing this?
The DA (liberal) is in the middle of a recall effort from nearly 100% of the prosecutors Are you saying they are all conservatives?
You agree the 2 year probation and the non registering as sex offender is the correct call? You obviously do. Besides, it more important to call the male rapist by his preferred pronouns to protect his feelings but he girl he assaulted in the bathroom is just supposed to deal with it, just like girls seeing penises in the locker rooms? Yeah, I would say liberal policies are exactly to blame of this decline of our society.

 

[coldseat]

Should we blame conservatives for allowing this?
The DA (liberal) is in the middle of a recall effort from nearly 100% of the prosecutors Are you saying they are all conservatives?
You agree the 2 year probation and the non registering as sex offender is the correct call? You obviously do. Besides, it more important to call the male rapist by his preferred pronouns to protect his feelings but he girl he assaulted in the bathroom is just supposed to deal with it, just like girls seeing penises in the locker rooms? Yeah, I would say liberal policies are exactly to blame of this decline of our society.

You realize you obsession with finding every possible negative story about transgendered people goes way beyond protecting little girls, don't you? It's just so weird and off putting to focus so much energy and attention on trying to denigrate a group of people that much, regardless of how you feel about them. It says a lot more about you than it does the group of people you're attacking.

 

[Farb]

You realize you obsession with finding every possible negative story about transgendered people goes way beyond protecting little girls, don't you? It's just so weird and off putting to focus so much energy and attention on trying to denigrate a group of people that much, regardless of how you feel about them. It says a lot more about you than it does the group of people you're attacking.

What does it say about me exactly? Do tell.
To me it says that I oppose everything about this new gender (and racial) theory because it undermines our society. I get that fact that it makes people like you feel warm and fuzzy inside, most would call that self righteousness. I prefer virtue signaling, it seems to express the progressives view of the world. I just chose to live in the real world and the lefts policies of feelings over reality are having real world effects and most people are too scared of being labeled a bad word so they don't say anything. Although kind of telling that is exactly what you are trying to do with this last post. I just don't care, but apparently by not taking offense to the usual weapons of the lefts arsenal, it is now 'trolling'. See, if you don't care about leftist values, you are a bad person, when in fact, most leftist values are evil.

You all created the hierarchy of victimhood, I am just challenging your brackets.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Should we blame conservatives for allowing this?
The DA (liberal) is in the middle of a recall effort from nearly 100% of the prosecutors Are you saying they are all conservatives?
You agree the 2 year probation and the non registering as sex offender is the correct call? You obviously do. Besides, it more important to call the male rapist by his preferred pronouns to protect his feelings but he girl he assaulted in the bathroom is just supposed to deal with it, just like girls seeing penises in the locker rooms? Yeah, I would say liberal policies are exactly to blame of this decline of our society.

A 17yr old boy molested/assaulted a 10yr old girl in a bathroom. That's the story, everything else is just plain BS that I don't care about.

 

[brandon]

What does it say about me exactly? Do tell.
To me it says that I oppose everything about this new gender (and racial) theory because it undermines our society. I get that fact that it makes people like you feel warm and fuzzy inside, most would call that self righteousness. I prefer virtue signaling, it seems to express the progressives view of the world. I just chose to live in the real world and the lefts policies of feelings over reality are having real world effects and most people are too scared of being labeled a bad word so they don't say anything. Although kind of telling that is exactly what you are trying to do with this last post. I just don't care, but apparently by not taking offense to the usual weapons of the lefts arsenal, it is now 'trolling'. See, if you don't care about leftist values, you are a bad person, when in fact, most leftist values are evil.

You all created the hierarchy of victimhood, I am just challenging your brackets.

All of the same arguments about undermining society were made about gay marriage.

How did that turn out?

Was the push for marriage equality self-righteous? Virtue signaling? No, it wasn't. It was about ensuring that people had equal protections under the law.

So it is your opinion that transgender equality is evil? Do you think equality for gay people was evil?

Does gay marriage effect your life in any meaningful way at all? Of course it doesn't. But it means a hell of a lot to gay people.

The same thing applies for transgender equality. It's literally not going to effect your life in any way, ever. But it makes a huge difference to transgender people.

 

[MT15]

What does it say about me exactly? Do tell.
To me it says that I oppose everything about this new gender (and racial) theory because it undermines our society. I get that fact that it makes people like you feel warm and fuzzy inside, most would call that self righteousness. I prefer virtue signaling, it seems to express the progressives view of the world. I just chose to live in the real world and the lefts policies of feelings over reality are having real world effects and most people are too scared of being labeled a bad word so they don't say anything. Although kind of telling that is exactly what you are trying to do with this last post. I just don't care, but apparently by not taking offense to the usual weapons of the lefts arsenal, it is now 'trolling'. See, if you don't care about leftist values, you are a bad person, when in fact, most leftist values are evil.

You all created the hierarchy of victimhood, I am just challenging your brackets.

What exactly are these “evil” leftist values that you think you have identified? Could you define a “leftist”?

Note: I don’t really think you will answer these questions in a straightforward manner. If you do, it will break a pattern. It would be helpful if you would answer though.

 

[Farb]

A 17yr old boy molested/assaulted a 10yr old girl in a bathroom. That's the story, everything else is just plain BS that I don't care about.

I wish that was the only story here, other wise, the dude would be in jail with other guys.

 

[coldseat]

What does it say about me exactly? Do tell.
To me it says that I oppose everything about this new gender (and racial) theory because it undermines our society. I get that fact that it makes people like you feel warm and fuzzy inside, most would call that self righteousness. I prefer virtue signaling, it seems to express the progressives view of the world. I just chose to live in the real world and the lefts policies of feelings over reality are having real world effects and most people are too scared of being labeled a bad word so they don't say anything. Although kind of telling that is exactly what you are trying to do with this last post. I just don't care, but apparently by not taking offense to the usual weapons of the lefts arsenal, it is now 'trolling'. See, if you don't care about leftist values, you are a bad person, when in fact, most leftist values are evil.

You all created the hierarchy of victimhood, I am just challenging your brackets.

Struck a nerve, did I, lol.

I don't really know what all that drivel means, but I'm sure you have your proclamations, directives and justifications from God for doing what you do.

That bolded part is cute though. While you're always accusing the progressives and leftest of that, you're the biggest purveyor of those qualities on this board.

 

[Farb]

What exactly are these “evil” leftist values that you think you have identified? Could you define a “leftist”?

Note: I don’t really think you will answer these questions in a straightforward manner. If you do, it will break a pattern. It would be helpful if you would answer though.

You seem shocked that someone would consider your values to be 'evil'. I understand, I didn't get it when you called my values evil either but we learn and we grow.

I consider teaching children that men can be women and women can be men to be evil. I think allowing guys in girls changing rooms or bathroom at school to be evil. I think intentionally blurring the lines between male and female is evil. No, I don't think homosexuality is evil (I know how you all like to invent words). I think the auto response of thinking religion is evil to be evil. I think teaching children that one color is victim and one color is oppressor is evil. I think abortion is evil. I think sexualizing children is evil. I think demanding an outcome without working for that outcome to be evil. I think racism is evil. I mean I could go on and on.

 

[Farb]

Struck a nerve, did I, lol.

I don't really know what all that drivel means, but I'm sure you have your proclamations, directives and justifications from God for doing what you do.

That bolded part is cute though. While you're always accusing the progressives and leftest of that, you're the biggest purveyor of those qualities on this board.

LOL. I can assure you, no nerve was struck. I just want to know what this says about me is all. So, what does it say about me?

 

[Complex Kid]

I wish that was the only story here, other wise, the dude would be in jail with other guys.

So that's your issue with the sentence? The fact that it's being served in a women's prison? and not that it's only for two years?

I think allowing guys in girls changing rooms or bathroom at school to be evil.

I know your speaking in general here but it's pretty odd that your putting a big emphasis on this while at the same time you are holding up this story where a 17 year old man went into a women's bathroom and sexually assaulted someone as proof that transgender people are evil.

 

[Farb]

So that's your issue with the sentence? The fact that it's being served in a women's prison? and not that it's only for two years?




I know your speaking in general here but it's pretty odd that your putting a big emphasis on this while at the same time you are holding up this story where a 17 year old man went into a women's bathroom and sexually assaulted someone as proof that transgender people are evil.

Both are my problem with that sentence.

The man that committed assault was transgender, so where the assault took place has some relevance don't you think?
I could careless if a dude wants to be a lady. What I do care about is where others are forced to participate in his/her experiment and who those others are. Children in the bathroom is a pretty solid place for me to plant on flag about what is right and what is wrong. I was told this would never happen and I was a bigot for saying it would but yet every time I show that it does happen, it still doesn't prove it happens but only proves that I am bigot. Confusing.

This will be like the trans athletes kicking the crap out of women in the octagon and the pool. The left's marching orders are to demand that all is well and anyone who says anything is a bigot when in the real world, it is slowly undermining the trans rights progress. I think most people are starting to wake up to the ridiculousness of a man swimming against real women. It will not be defendable in a year or so.

Edited to add: I don't think transgender people are evil. People beleive a lot of crazy stuff that I don't find evil. What I do find evil is when you allow children to be a part of it in any way shape or form.

 

[coldseat]

LOL. I can assure you, no nerve was struck. I just want to know what this says about me is all. So, what does it say about me?

I mean, all of this obviously.

You seem shocked that someone would consider your values to be 'evil'. I understand, I didn't get it when you called my values evil either but we learn and we grow.

I consider teaching children that men can be women and women can be men to be evil. I think allowing guys in girls changing rooms or bathroom at school to be evil. I think intentionally blurring the lines between male and female is evil. No, I don't think homosexuality is evil (I know how you all like to invent words). I think the auto response of thinking religion is evil to be evil. I think teaching children that one color is victim and one color is oppressor is evil. I think abortion is evil. I think sexualizing children is evil. I think demanding an outcome without working for that outcome to be evil. I think racism is evil. I mean I could go on and on.

You answered the question yourself. You're bravely defending the little girls from the evils of the transgender community and gender ideology. Also, that you drink so much religious and right wing Kool Aid that you're view of people and society are distorted.

I was told this would never happen

Nobody ever told you that. That's just a remanence of your persecution complex. Of course there's the possibility of a transgender person being a sexual predator, just no more (but probably less) than any other man or women. They're much more likely to be the victims of a sexual assault, but I don't think your biblical view of them allows for those types of facts. So do with that what you will.