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    Didn't really see a place for this so I thought I would start a thread about all things LGBTQ since this is a pretty hot topic in our culture right now

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/sup...y-that-refuses-to-work-with-lgbt-couples.html

    • The Supreme Court on Thursday delivered a unanimous defeat to LGBT couples in a high-profile case over whether Philadelphia could refuse to contract with a Roman Catholic adoption agency that says its religious beliefs prevent it from working with same-sex foster parents.
    • Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in an opinion for a majority of the court that Philadelphia violated the First Amendment by refusing to contract with Catholic Social Services once it learned that the organization would not certify same-sex couples for adoption.

    I will admit, I was hopeful for this decision by the SCOTUS but I was surprised by the unanimous decision.

    While I don't think there is anything wrong, per se, with same sex couples adopting and raising children (I actually think it is a good thing as it not an abortion) but I also did not want to see the state force a religious institution to bend to a societal norm.
     
    I've been rewatching the Canadian sitcom Corner Gas and spotted the below in an episode from Dec of 2005. I couldn't stop laughing at the completely new context for the parody name for a line of toys.

    Trying to bring a little levity to the discussion.

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    Take your pick.

    Black, brown, yellow, Native American. Catholics, Irish, Italians, Jews. Abolitionists, suffragists, anarchists, communists and socialists.

    They have all been targets invented, concocted and imagined, conjured into fanciful existential threats. If one fell away, if it no longer riled, incited, frightened and galvanized a populace, if it was no longer politically useful, another took its place.

    Integration, miscegenation, red scares (“Have you now or have you ever been a member of…”), labor unions, Social Security, Medicare, civil rights, hippies, the Japanese and their cars, Arabs and their oil, Muslims, gays, women, pregnant women, sex, sexuality, the poor, the homeless.

    And you wonder, where does it stop? When does it end? And it doesn’t. A stand-in is always ready, waiting in the wings. So then you wonder who or what is next. Green energy, electric vehicles, the “libs,” the “Illegals,” science, medicine, historians, academics, public schools, teachers, books, librarians, transgender people. They’re all in play, typically in the most insidious ways, as in a bill introduced in the Missouri statehouse last week.

    House Bill 2885 would make it illegal for schoolteachers or counselors to support or contribute to the social transitioning of a transgender minor. Offenders would be placed on the sexual offender registry. Put in a more humane way, teachers who refuse to shame and insult trans kids will be classified as sex offenders. The bill defines what it calls “social transitioning” as when an individual adopts a name, pronouns and gender expression — such as clothing or a haircut — that does not match their assigned sex at birth.

    So if a student named Samantha begins to experience “gender dysphoria” (which is what health officials call it) and wants to be called Sam, and the teacher calls them Sam, suddenly the teacher is a sex offender?

    What next? Charging parents, doctors, friends of said children, relatives who support said children, anyone who accepts a child who isn’t harming anyone but feels more comfortable with a different gender? Tell me, predictable critics with your predictable criticisms, how President Joe Bidenwas beingdivisive in his State of the Union speech.

    You can see the next headline now, can’t you? “Missouri Struggling to Staff Teaching Roles.”..............

    MSN

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    Optimus Prime said:
    Take your pick.

    Black, brown, yellow, Native American. Catholics, Irish, Italians, Jews. Abolitionists, suffragists, anarchists, communists and socialists.

    They have all been targets invented, concocted and imagined, conjured into fanciful existential threats. If one fell away, if it no longer riled, incited, frightened and galvanized a populace, if it was no longer politically useful, another took its place.

    Integration, miscegenation, red scares (“Have you now or have you ever been a member of…”), labor unions, Social Security, Medicare, civil rights, hippies, the Japanese and their cars, Arabs and their oil, Muslims, gays, women, pregnant women, sex, sexuality, the poor, the homeless.

    And you wonder, where does it stop? When does it end? And it doesn’t. A stand-in is always ready, waiting in the wings. So then you wonder who or what is next. Green energy, electric vehicles, the “libs,” the “Illegals,” science, medicine, historians, academics, public schools, teachers, books, librarians, transgender people. They’re all in play, typically in the most insidious ways, as in a bill introduced in the Missouri statehouse last week.

    House Bill 2885 would make it illegal for schoolteachers or counselors to support or contribute to the social transitioning of a transgender minor. Offenders would be placed on the sexual offender registry. Put in a more humane way, teachers who refuse to shame and insult trans kids will be classified as sex offenders. The bill defines what it calls “social transitioning” as when an individual adopts a name, pronouns and gender expression — such as clothing or a haircut — that does not match their assigned sex at birth.

    So if a student named Samantha begins to experience “gender dysphoria” (which is what health officials call it) and wants to be called Sam, and the teacher calls them Sam, suddenly the teacher is a sex offender?

    What next? Charging parents, doctors, friends of said children, relatives who support said children, anyone who accepts a child who isn’t harming anyone but feels more comfortable with a different gender? Tell me, predictable critics with your predictable criticisms, how President Joe Bidenwas beingdivisive in his State of the Union speech.

    You can see the next headline now, can’t you? “Missouri Struggling to Staff Teaching Roles.”..............

    MSN

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    This from the party of "freedom". So I'm not allowed to call someone by the name I want to call them. (But only if it's the name they also want me to call them.) Presumably calling a trans kid a 'queerbait fa***t' or 'hellbound abomination' is still just peachy-keen.
     
    Taurus said:
    This from the party of "freedom". So I'm not allowed to call someone by the name I want to call them. (But only if it's the name they also want me to call them.) Presumably calling a trans kid a 'queerbait fa***t' or 'hellbound abomination' is still just peachy-keen.
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    My guess is that you are correct regarding the religionists.
     
    I couldn’t despise these people any more than I already do. Horrible people, bad faith, malignant, shirt stirrers. They care nothing about the religion they trumpet, nor their country.



     
    Transgender people overwhelmingly describe their lives after transitioning as “happier,” “authentic” and “comforting” despite a deluge of state legislation in recent years that seeks to restrict their access to health care and other aspects of life.

    Over the last three years, nearly half of states have passed restrictions on transition-related medical care — such as puberty blockers, hormone therapy and surgery — for minors. Supporters of the legislation have argued that many transgender people later regret their transitions, though studies have found that only about 1%-2% of people who transition experience regret.

    Earlier this year, the 2022 U.S. Transgender Survey — the largest nationwide survey of the community, with more than 90,000 trans respondents — found that 94% of respondents reported that they were “a lot more satisfied” or “a little more satisfied” with their lives.

    Transgender Day of Visibility, observed on March 31, is an annual awareness day dedicated to celebrating the accomplishments of trans people and acknowledging the violence and discrimination the community faces. NBC News asked transgender people from across the country to share how their life satisfaction has changed after transition. Out of two dozen respondents, all but one said they feel more joy in their lives. Here are some of their stories.

    Ash Orr, 33​

    Morgantown, West Virginia​

    Orr, who is the press relations manager for the National Center for Transgender Equality, the trans rights advocacy group that conducted the nationwide survey, began socially transitioning in his mid-20s, and at 33, he received gender-affirming top surgery.

    “The impact of this surgery … has been life-changing,” Orr said. “My body now feels like a comforting and familiar home, a place I had yearned for and have finally returned to.”

    When Orr isn’t working, he loves immersing himself in nature, whether that’s through gardening or playing pickleball with friends. He also chases tornadoes in the Midwest — “Yes, like the movie ‘Twister’!” he said.........

    Andrea Montañez, 58​

    Orlando, Florida​

    Montañez said her son and her co-workers both observed the same change in her after she transitioned in 2018: They said they noticed her smile.

    “You always were a nice person, but we didn’t know you could smile,” Montañez recalled her co-workers telling her. “I lost a lot, but I won freedom and happiness.”

    Montañez is the director of advocacy and immigration at the Hope CommUnity Center in Orlando and is involved in advocating against legislation targeting LGBTQ people in Florida — work that she said has helped her build community, find happiness and “bring the magic” to her and others’ lives.


    “We are a gift,” she said. “Trans people are a gift.”

    Elizabeth ‘Lizzy’ Graham, 34​

    Silver Spring, Maryland​

    In 2015, Graham said she kept a bag of women’s clothes in her car so that when she finished her shift at work as a tech support professional, she could drive to a Starbucks and change in the bathroom. She was also driving for Uber at the time, and one day she decided to dress as herself so she could practice coming out to her passengers before she came out to her family.

    She came out fully in the summer of 2015, and said her gender dysphoria, or the distress caused by a misalignment between one’s sex assigned at birth and gender identity, went away with time.

    “Once I began my transition journey and began living full time, my focus and productivity improved,” she said. “Many friends and people I know who knew me prior to transitioning said that they could tell I was happier now that I came out and was living my authentic life.”


    Now, Graham is a service coordinator who helps autistic children who receive Medicaid-funded services, and she leads a support group for transgender people in her area...........

    www.nbcnews.com

    10 trans people share how their life satisfaction has changed after transition

    Of the two dozen transgender people who reached out to NBC News, all but one said they were more satisfied with their lives after transition.
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    Oliver Bertasio loves to sing. He long dreamed of a career in the arts. But, struggling with insecurity, he stayed largely behind the scenes, even while taking theater classes in college.

    The Massachusetts native could not have imagined that he would find his voice in Kentucky.

    Looking back, Bertasio, now 33, sees that the insecurity came from not understanding his gender identity. It wasn’t until he accepted himself as a transgender man and transitioned while living in New York eight years ago that he felt comfortable in his own skin. But after moving to Lexington about two years ago and finding a welcoming community that embraced him, he found the courage to step onto the stage — joining a church choir and performing with a local theater company.

    “I’ve never felt more at home than I do in Lexington,” said Bertasio, who works at a bank where even customers have been uniformly kind — including those who appear to be conservative...........

    www.nbcnews.com

    Looking for home, some transgender people find community in unexpected places

    Three trans Americans detail how they found joy and community in some of the country’s most conservative states.
    www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
     
    March 31 is not always Easter. The date of the holiest day on the Christian calendar varies, depending, as it does, on the timing of the full moon relative to the spring equinox. From 2001 to 2100, it will land on March 31 five times — making March 31 one of the most common dates for Easter. There are eight dates from March 20 to April 25 on which Easter falls four times this century and 12 dates on which it will fall three times.

    In other words, since 2009, the year during which March 31 was first recognized as Trans Day of Visibility, Easter has usually not fallen on March 31. It did in 2013, but not on any of the other 14 years. But Trans Day of Visibility has always been on March 31, as it was this year, along with Easter.
    And that coincidence, occasioned by the vagaries of the religious holiday rather than the secular one, got a lot of people performatively angry at President Biden.

    After all, it isn’t just that Easter and Trans Day of Visibility fell on March 31. They fell on March 31 during an election year, one that is underway as the trans community becomes a more frequent target of the political right. So March 31, Sunday, was Trans Day of Visibility, and it was (thanks to what the moon has been doing) Easter, and it came as Biden’s opponents look for reasons to attack him, and it arrived as support for the trans community has joined so many other things as being robustly partisan.

    It’s barely worth documenting the outrage that was presented, given how predictable it is. The Washington Post’s Amy B Wang walked through some examples. As a general rule, the complaints centered on Biden’s recognizing the day of visibility, as though he and the White House didn’t also recognize Easter. (Biden, who attends church regularly, also included a reference to Jesus in his message. Trump … did not.) The outrage, then, is not about Biden giving precedence to Trans Day of Visibility but that he had the gall to recognize it at all...........

     
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...s_campaign=1490&ito=social-twitter_mailonline
    The majority of gender-confused children grow out of that feeling by the time they are fully grown adults, according to a long-term study.

    Researchers in the Netherlands tracked more than 2,700 children from age 11 to their mid-twenties, asking them every three years of feelings about their gender.

    Results showed at the start of the research, around one-in-10 children (11 percent) expressed 'gender non-contentedness' to varying degrees.

    But by age 25, just one-in-25 (4 percent) said they 'often' or 'sometimes' were discontent with their gender.

    The researchers concluded: 'The results of the current study might help adolescents to realize that it is normal to have some doubts about one’s identity and one’s gender identity during this age period and that this is also relatively common.'
     
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    Farb said:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...s_campaign=1490&ito=social-twitter_mailonline
    The majority of gender-confused children grow out of that feeling by the time they are fully grown adults, according to a long-term study.

    Researchers in the Netherlands tracked more than 2,700 children from age 11 to their mid-twenties, asking them every three years of feelings about their gender.

    Results showed at the start of the research, around one-in-10 children (11 percent) expressed 'gender non-contentedness' to varying degrees.

    But by age 25, just one-in-25 (4 percent) said they 'often' or 'sometimes' were discontent with their gender.

    The researchers concluded: 'The results of the current study might help adolescents to realize that it is normal to have some doubts about one’s identity and one’s gender identity during this age period and that this is also relatively common.'
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    Wow. Considering RW religionist whack jobs want to deny care that is…something.

    Also your link noted that the study has “some limitations”. Interesting, that.

    Finally, in point of opinion, it is none of your business.
     
    In other words, if you let children discover who they are on their own, they will figure it out themselves; and naturally become who they are.

    Couldn't agree more.

    Great point.

    If only all parents understood that allowing your child to explore being trans if they feel inclined will only allow them to discover their own true identify and will be a much happier and well adjusted individual for it.

    Bravo Farb!
     
    bird said:
    Wow. Considering RW religionist whack jobs want to deny care that is…something.

    Also your link noted that the study has “some limitations”. Interesting, that.

    Finally, in point of opinion, it is none of your business.
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    In your estimation, only religious people are against giving life altering drugs and medical procedures to children who suffer from a mental illness in order to not treat, but affirm the illness?

    Do you think any study doesn't have limitations? Hint, all studies do, that is the reason for peer review is it not?

    Very libertarian of you. Do you think their should be an age of sexual consent or leave it up to those involved?
     
    CoolBrees said:
    In other words, if you let children discover who they are on their own, they will figure it out themselves; and naturally become who they are.

    Couldn't agree more.

    Great point.

    If only all parents understood that allowing your child to explore being trans if they feel inclined will only allow them to discover their own true identify and will be a much happier and well adjusted individual for it.

    Bravo Farb!
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    See we agree. Obviously you agree that drugs and irreversible surgeries should wait until the time the child has grown into adulthood in order to discover who they actual are.
    Glad you finally came around to the right side of history on this issue. I am proud of you.
     

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