Trump loyalists in Congress to challenge Electoral College results in Jan. 6 joint session (Update: Insurrectionists storm Congress)(And now what?) (5 Viewers)

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    I guess it's time to start a thread for this. We know that at least 140 members of Congress have pledged to join the objection. Under federal law, if at least one member of each house (HOR and Senate) objects, each house will adjourn the joint session for their own session (limited at two hours) to take up the objection. If both houses pass a resolution objecting to the EC result, further action can take place. If both houses do not (i.e. if one or neither passes a resolution), the objection is powerless and the college result is certified.

    Clearly this is political theater as we know such a resolution will not pass the House, and there's good reason to think it wouldn't pass the Senate either (with or without the two senators from Georgia). The January 6 joint session is traditionally a ceremonial one. This one will not be.

    Many traditional pillars of Republican support have condemned the plan as futile and damaging. Certainly the Trump loyalists don't care - and many are likely doing it for fundraising purposes or to carry weight with the fraction of their constituencies that think this is a good idea.


     
    MT15 said:
    He’s one that should be easy to find. And put in jail.
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    Yea he's one of the easy ones out of thousands. Everyone that breached the outside barriers is a criminal. Not just the people that made it into the building.

    Extremely disappointed that the FBI had not infiltrated this movement and been more prepared to have law enforcement respond accordingly. Instead they're asking the public for help with pictures and videos from inside the Capitol. Every single one of those idiots going into the Rotunda yesterday was filming it- many probably livestreaming it. If the FBI doesn't have all of that footage and their identities, I don't know why we have the FBI.
     
    CoolBrees said:
    @DaveXA -

    But they broke down four fences and were standing on the steps for a while before they breeched the building. They should have been stopped the first time they destroyed a fence. Hundreds shouldn’t have been within 100 yards of the door. Anyone that broke through that first fence should have been tackled, tased, and or shot with pepper balls. If Anyone made it inside the front door they should have been shot with live rounds as they broke in. Just like any other terrorist threatening the Capitol. These were cowards that were emboldend. You shoot one of them the rest will pee their cosplay uniform and go back to their trailers or mom’s basement.

    They were let in.
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    I agree they were let in. That absolutely shouldn't have happened and was a complete failure of leadership to plan ahead for something like this. Had there been plenty of security and an extended perimeter to begin with, none of what happened yesterday would have happened. No one would have needed to get shot and the police would have just arrested anyone breaching that perimeter.

    It's just baffling that they didn't see this coming. But, that woman's blood is on Trump's hands, completely.
     
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    Man, this guy needs a better costume. This is bargain bin avengers. haha.

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    Optimus Prime said:
    most of the coverage I saw this morning had some version of

    America is still here, Democracy is still here, the Capitol building still stands

    All I could think of was "Bombs bursting in air, our flag was still there"

    This was an attack on America, an attack on democracy and a siege on the Capitol and everything it stands for

    Like Fort McHenry we withstood and survived that attack but everyone involved in this needs to be charged and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law

    A lot of coverage also noted the distinct difference between the police actions yesterday and the BLM protests - there needs to be a serious investigation

    More need to say what Romney did, this was always all a lie - the people in that mob believe the lie, the 39% Ted Cruz mentioned believe the lie but the politicians, Cruz, Hawley, Scalise et al know it's a lie, they promoted it just to serve their own ends

    they should be dealt with harshly
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    I wonder how much different the response would have been had BLM or a Muslim group been involved? This is domestic terrorism, and it's the only kind of terrorism we've had since 2106 due to Trump stoking fires of white supremacy and election fraud.
     
    Purveyors of disinformation want us to believe it was Antifa. Some will pretend this couldn’t be anticipated and planned for, or that it’s a “both sides” outcome.

    We see many of their faces from images and video. Their identities are being established. They were met with very little resistance gaining entry into the Capitol. They had shirts made, for ****** sake.

    Nothing about yesterday was spontaneous, accidental, or unpredictable.
     

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    Optimus Prime said:
    Good to know he's not a thief
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    After a day of chaos in D.C., a photo of a man casually sitting in Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's office with his boots propped up on her desk has gone viral.

    WUSA9's sister station in Arkansas interviewed the man seen in the photo, and identified him as Richard Barnett of Gravette, Arkansas.

    Shortly after President Trump addressed his supporters vowing "never to concede" the election in a speech on the Ellipse, rioters stormed the Capitol breaking all police barricades and breaching the building, including Senate chambers.

    Barnett said he traveled to Washington to hear the president speak, and was pushed inside the Capitol when rioters broke through the doors. He said he found Pelosi's office sometime later, carried a flag inside and left her a note, before being removed by Capitol Police.

    "I threw my feet up on the desk at that point," Barnett told 5NEWS. "I realized some a**holes had cut me also and I bled on her envelope. So I picked up the envelope and put it in my pocket, and I put a quarter on the desk cause I'm not a thief." ................

    'I bled on her envelope' | Viral photo shows Trump supporter with his feet up on Nancy Pelosi's desk (msn.com)

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    Richard Barnett, who posed at Pelosi desk, said in Facebook he is prepared for violent death - The Washington Post
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    The linked full interview from the Arkansas news station.

    https://www.5newsonline.com/article...ding/527-1e0d9e1b-ebef-4296-859b-9de8c26be2d3

    Basically saying he was pushed in, looking for a bathroom, found her office, wrote her a 'lovely note' (narrator: it was not lovely), bled on her envelope, allegedly paid for it with a quarter.
     
    Someone needs to get to the bottom of why the National Guard took so long to be deployed.

    The DC City Council put out a statement saying that their initial request was denied by DOD. Reports are saying Pence ultimately called them in and not Trump. If it is true that Trump made the decision to deny the deployment request than that is the most damning (and impeachable) offense of them all.

    His enablers can and will dance around whether he is directly responsible for the riots themselves. But if he denied an emergency request to protect the Capitol building from terrorists, that is black and white indefensible.
     
    superchuck500 said:
    More resignations.

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    I really don't think mass resignations is what we need right now. Regardless of how long it took some of these enablers to grow a soul, we now need them and their newfound moral compasses inside the White house keeping things somewhat sane.

    Its too late to fall on your sword, we now need you around to avert disaster.
     
    BayouSAINTJoe said:
    I really don't think mass resignations is what we need right now. Regardless of how long it took some of these enablers to grow a soul, we now need them and their newfound moral compasses inside the White house keeping things somewhat sane.

    Its too late to fall on your sword, we now need you around to avert disaster.
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    I agree. Those especially on Trump's cabinet should go to Pence and get him to invoke the 25th and rather than resign, vote him off the island.
     
    BayouSAINTJoe said:
    I really don't think mass resignations is what we need right now. Regardless of how long it took some of these enablers to grow a soul, we now need them and their newfound moral compasses inside the White house keeping things somewhat sane.

    Its too late to fall on your sword, we now need you around to avert disaster.
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    Rats fleeing a sinking ship. meh.
     
    CoolBrees said:
    @DaveXA -

    But they broke down four fences and were standing on the steps for a while before they breeched the building. They should have been stopped the first time they destroyed a fence. Hundreds shouldn’t have been within 100 yards of the door. Anyone that broke through that first fence should have been tackled, tased, and or shot with pepper balls. If Anyone made it inside the front door they should have been shot with live rounds as they broke in. Just like any other terrorist threatening the Capitol. These were cowards that were emboldend. You shoot one of them the rest will pee their cosplay uniform and go back to their trailers or mom’s basement.

    They were let in.
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    I'm also really interested in who made the decision (Trump or a cabinet member) to deny the DC's mayor's request for the DC National Guard to be present. Because it sure looks like a con man/grifter set up from here...
     

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