What happens to the Republican Party now? (2 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

OK. That was a good exchange. It was nice to talk about this topic rather than the wacky stuff from earlier today.

 

[DaveXA]

I see. You are going by how many ELECTED Republicans are standing up NOW.....not what I am referring to....which is regular people who will eventually vote one way or another.

You do realize those elected Republicans were elected by...yeah, you know where I'm heading here. It's simple. The silent majority voted for Trump in droves. That same silent majority is still voting in people who continue to block any investigation into 1/6. Need I say more?

 

[zztop]

There are a ton of Republicans like you. I was one of them. Pull the R no matter what. I can’t do that anymore. Look who is getting elected now. They are dangerous people like NJ73.

When Reagan was President he took extremists votes and gave them lip service for the most part. The silent majority controlled the party at that time. Now, the Republicans take your vote (silent majority) and give you lip service. (Pat Buchanan was the beginning of the crazy right flexing its muscle). “Most of us are good” does not excuse the election of the really bad and the bad are being elected by Republicans left and right. Most Germans weren’t Nazis, but because the “silent majority” did nothing and let the loons get elected, you got Hitler. Learn from history’s mistakes.

Right now the Republican leadership listens to NJ73 more than they listen to you. That should scare the hell out of you.

Just wondering, was Pat Buchanan before Newt?

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Just wondering, was Pat Buchanan before Newt?

"Buchanan was an assistant and special consultant to U.S. Presidents Richard Nixon......." Wiki

I think that's before Newt came on the scene.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

You do realize those elected Republicans were elected by...yeah, you know where I'm heading here. It's simple. The silent majority voted for Trump in droves. That same silent majority is still voting in people who continue to block any investigation into 1/6. Need I say more?

You've said enough. The past
voting pattern might change though. People see the way Trump characterized Putin in a positive way in the past and maybe they will surprise you and turn on him.

 

[MT15]

It would be nice if they’d do that. I don’t think I’m going to count on it, though. With any luck Trump and several of his lackeys will be indicted.

 

[DaveXA]

You've said enough. The past
voting pattern might change though. People see the way Trump characterized Putin in a positive way in the past and maybe they will surprise you and turn on him.

I hope you're right. It's not lost on me that right when the war started he said something to the effect of what Putin is doing it really smart. Blew my mind that a former US President would say something like that during an unjustified invasion of a neighboring sovereign country.

 

[Optimus Prime]

You've said enough. The past
voting pattern might change though. People see the way Trump characterized Putin in a positive way in the past and maybe they will surprise you and turn on him.

Maybe

but after seeing how people didn’t turn on him after seeing the way Trump characterized:

John McCain & POWs
Gold Star families
Disabled reporters
Mexican judges
his own generals
etc, etc, etc.

Forgive me if I’m a little skeptical

I think a lot of the people who say they are disgusted by Trump and won’t vote for him are actually telling the truth…..in the primary

But if Trump wins the nomination and the choices are

vote for Trump
vote Democrat
vote 3rd party
don’t vote at all

Quite a few will vote Trump and feel they had no choice but to do so

 

[DaveXA]

Maybe

but after seeing how people didn’t turn on him after seeing the way Trump characterized:

John McCain & POWs
Gold Star families
Disabled reporters
Mexican judges
his own generals
etc, etc, etc.

Forgive me if I’m a little skeptical

I think a lot of the people who say they are disgusted by Trump and won’t vote for him are actually telling the truth…..in the primary

But if Trump wins the nomination and the choices are

vote for Trump
vote Democrat
vote 3rd party
don’t vote at all

Quite a few will vote Trump and feel they had no choice but to do so

If Trump wins the Republican nomination, that will tell you all you need to know about the Republican Party. This is where the so-called silent majority is supposed to have the largest impact.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Maybe

but after seeing how people didn’t turn on him after seeing the way Trump characterized:

John McCain & POWs
Gold Star families
Disabled reporters
Mexican judges
his own generals
etc, etc, etc.

Forgive me if I’m a little skeptical

I think a lot of the people who say they are disgusted by Trump and won’t vote for him are actually telling the truth…..in the primary

But if Trump wins the nomination and the choices are

vote for Trump
vote Democrat
vote 3rd party
don’t vote at all

Quite a few will vote Trump and feel they had no choice but to do so

That's why I am soooo hoping that our country's (regular folks) Republicans will have the wisdom to not nominate Trump.
If 2024 is Trump vs Biden I'm gonna be very disgusted.

 

[brandon]

That's why I am soooo hoping that our country's (regular folks) Republicans will have the wisdom to not nominate Trump.
If 2024 is Trump vs Biden I'm gonna be very disgusted.

But just so we’re clear, not disgusted enough to vote for the only person with a chance to beat the guy that called Putin a genius, right?

 

[bird]

Call me paranoid (ok, you’re paranoid) but I doubt Trump gets indicted for anything. It might be that prosecutors hold a quiet conversation with him and his family and tell them if they do not shut up the world will drop on them. Do I think that will stop them completely? No. It may slow them down enough so that nature can take Trump out with a stroke or heart attack. His family has nowhere near the ability to move the needle like he does. As for the Republican Party? That is a different story. They started down the psychotic path long ago. Trump was merely the full-scale manifestation of crazy.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Are there not Democrats who vote for Ds no matter what? BTW...the mayor of my town is in his 3rd term and he is a Democrat. I voted for him each time. I should point out the reason that I do so is he is similar to Joe Manchin. This mayor of my town is very frugal and does everything he can to keep our property tax rates stable.

If Democratic leadership did anything remotely close to what Republican leadership did to instigate an event such as the events of January 6th and 99% of congressional Democrats attempted to block an investigation into those events, you would have a point. But they didn't, so this argument is fallacious.

 

[MT15]

I’m thinking maybe we need to start a new thread - Republican fascism:

 

[Optimus Prime]

From friday’s episode

nsfw

 

[Eeyore]

GOP Rep. McClain falsely claimed that Trump caught Osama bin Laden. The Al Qaeda leader was killed during the first Obama administration, when Trump was still hosting a game show.

"When President Trump was in office, we didn't have a war, and I think he made three peace treaties," McClain said. "Caught Osama –Osama bin Laden and Soleimani, Al Baghdadi."

www.businessinsider.com

 

[MT15]

Pertinent:

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Sarah Palin announces run for Congress in Alaska | CNN Politics

www.cnn.com

Sure, why not?

Intellectually speaking, she definitely meets Republican standards, I'm just not sure she is crazy enough.