Will “mass deportation” actually happen (2 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

Laugh, cry or both? Both it is.

 

[MT15]

This looks corrupt on its face. A 3-time convicted felon who was due to be deported before his convictions will now be released from prison and allowed to stay in this country in return for testifying against Abrego Garcia.

 

[Optimus Prime]

This looks corrupt on its face. A 3-time convicted felon who was due to be deported before his convictions will now be released from prison and allowed to stay in this country in return for testifying against Abrego Garcia.

Sounds like a reliable witness

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

This looks corrupt on its face. A 3-time convicted felon who was due to be deported before his convictions will now be released from prison and allowed to stay in this country in return for testifying against Abrego Garcia.

Hopefully the jury will see right through that and the defense will be able to rip apart their testimony in cross examination.

 

[MT15]

This is so true

 

[Optimus Prime]

The constant rumbling of passing dump trucks drowns out the once familiar chirping of birds at the family home of Mae’anna Osceola-Hart in Everglades National Park.

“It’s all-day, all-night truck noise,” says the 21-year-old photographer who describes herself as part Miccosukee and part Seminole, two Florida tribes at the heart of the debate over the detention center known as “Alligator Alcatraz.”

The homes of Miccosukee and Seminole people, as well as their ceremonial sites, surround the detention center on three sides.

Osceola-Hart’s great-grandfather Wild Bill Osceola fought against the development of an airport at the same site where the ICE facility’s construction is now underway.

In 1968, authorities in Dade County, now known as Miami-Dade County, began building the Big Cypress Jetport on land the Miccosukees used for ceremonial practices. The Dade County Port Authority referred to the project as the “world’s largest airport,” with six runways designed to handle large jets, and officials were quoted as calling the environmental and tribal leaders who opposed it “butterfly chasers.”

The airport became a flashpoint for resistance, but in 1969, a coalition including Osceola-Hart’s great-grandfather, fellow tribesmen and conservationists persuaded Florida Gov. Claude R. Kirk Jr. that the airport would damage the Everglades. He ordered construction be stopped. One runway, approximately 10,000 feet in length, was left behind as a training ground for pilots.

Osceola-Hart is proud of her great-grandfather’s efforts to stop the 1960s development, but she is disappointed the Miccosukees lost land they considered sacred. “We got kicked out of ceremonial grounds,” she says.

Finding a safe place to live has been an ongoing battle for the tribes in Florida. Seminoles retreated into the Everglades after the Seminole wars ended in 1858.

The Miccosukees found refuge in the Everglades after development in Miami and Fort Lauderdale pushed them out of their settlements. Now, many members of the tribes live on the Big Cypress Reservation or in camps of wooden homes along Tamiami Trail (U.S. Highway 41), a road that slices the Everglades east to west and disrupts the natural flow of water from Lake Okeechobee to the park.

Construction of that road ended in 1928, changing life dramatically in the Everglades. Tourists were able to access remote areas of the lush national park. The tribes developed tourist attractions, like casinos, chickee huts and airboat tours through the mangroves. Native species declined................

Debate over 'Alligator Alcatraz' detention center a personal one for members of Miccosukee and Seminole tribes

The homes of Miccosukee and Seminole people, as well as their ceremonial sites, surround the detention center on three sides.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

The Trump administration has codified its efforts to strip some Americans of their US citizenship in a recently published justice department memo that directs attorneys to prioritize denaturalization for naturalized citizens who commit certain crimes.

The memo, published on 11 June, calls on attorneys in the department to institute civil proceedings to revoke a person’s United States citizenship if an individual either “illegally procured” naturalization or procured naturalization by “concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation”.

At the center of the move are the estimated 25 million US citizens who immigrated to the country after being born abroad, according to data from 2023 – and it lists 10 different priority categories for denaturalization.


According to the memo, those subjected to civil proceedings are not entitled to an attorney like they are in criminal cases. And the government has a lighter burden of proof in civil cases than they do in criminal ones.

The memo claims such efforts will focus on those who are involved “in the commission of war crimes, extrajudicial killings, or other serious human rights abuses … [and] naturalized criminals, gang members, or, indeed, any individuals convicted of crimes who pose an ongoing threat to the US”.

The directive gives justice department attorneys wider discretion on when to pursue denaturalization, including in instances of lying on immigration forms, cases where there is financial fraud or medical fraud against the US or against private individuals; and cases referred by a US attorney’s office or in connection with pending criminal charges.

The justice department’s civil rights division has been placed at the forefront of Trump’s policy objectives, including ending diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) programs within the government as well as ending transgender treatments, among other initiatives.………

Trump’s justice department issues directive to strip naturalized Americans of citizenship for criminal offenses

Memo says those subjected to civil proceedings are not entitled to an attorney like they are in criminal cases

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

IMMOKALEE, Fla. — A man who put himself in danger to help a family during a shark attack in Boca Grande on June 11 is now facing deportation after being arrested for driving without a license.

Luis Alvarez, 31, was one of three men who rushed to help 9-year-old Leah Lendel and her family after she was attacked by a shark. Leah's hand was nearly severed, but surgeons were able to repair it and she's now recovering.

Just three days after the rescue, on June 14, Alvarez was arrested by the Collier County Sheriff's Office.

According to the police report, deputies pulled him over in Immokalee for driving without headlights. When they discovered he didn't have a license, he was arrested and taken to jail.……..

Man who helped during Boca Grande shark attack facing deportation

Luis Alvarez jumped in the water to help when 9-year-old Leah Lendel was attacked by a shark in Boca Grande. Now, he's facing deportation after being arrested for driving without a license.

www.fox4now.com

 

[MT15]

The Trump administration has codified its efforts to strip some Americans of their US citizenship in a recently published justice department memo that directs attorneys to prioritize denaturalization for naturalized citizens who commit certain crimes.

The memo, published on 11 June, calls on attorneys in the department to institute civil proceedings to revoke a person’s United States citizenship if an individual either “illegally procured” naturalization or procured naturalization by “concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation”.

At the center of the move are the estimated 25 million US citizens who immigrated to the country after being born abroad, according to data from 2023 – and it lists 10 different priority categories for denaturalization.


According to the memo, those subjected to civil proceedings are not entitled to an attorney like they are in criminal cases. And the government has a lighter burden of proof in civil cases than they do in criminal ones.

The memo claims such efforts will focus on those who are involved “in the commission of war crimes, extrajudicial killings, or other serious human rights abuses … [and] naturalized criminals, gang members, or, indeed, any individuals convicted of crimes who pose an ongoing threat to the US”.

The directive gives justice department attorneys wider discretion on when to pursue denaturalization, including in instances of lying on immigration forms, cases where there is financial fraud or medical fraud against the US or against private individuals; and cases referred by a US attorney’s office or in connection with pending criminal charges.

The justice department’s civil rights division has been placed at the forefront of Trump’s policy objectives, including ending diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) programs within the government as well as ending transgender treatments, among other initiatives.………

Trump’s justice department issues directive to strip naturalized Americans of citizenship for criminal offenses

Memo says those subjected to civil proceedings are not entitled to an attorney like they are in criminal cases

www.theguardian.com

As long as Melania Trump is the first one to be denaturalized, followed by Elon, I’m fine with this.

 

[bird]

The Trump administration has codified its efforts to strip some Americans of their US citizenship in a recently published justice department memo that directs attorneys to prioritize denaturalization for naturalized citizens who commit certain crimes.

The memo, published on 11 June, calls on attorneys in the department to institute civil proceedings to revoke a person’s United States citizenship if an individual either “illegally procured” naturalization or procured naturalization by “concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation”.

At the center of the move are the estimated 25 million US citizens who immigrated to the country after being born abroad, according to data from 2023 – and it lists 10 different priority categories for denaturalization.


According to the memo, those subjected to civil proceedings are not entitled to an attorney like they are in criminal cases. And the government has a lighter burden of proof in civil cases than they do in criminal ones.

The memo claims such efforts will focus on those who are involved “in the commission of war crimes, extrajudicial killings, or other serious human rights abuses … [and] naturalized criminals, gang members, or, indeed, any individuals convicted of crimes who pose an ongoing threat to the US”.

The directive gives justice department attorneys wider discretion on when to pursue denaturalization, including in instances of lying on immigration forms, cases where there is financial fraud or medical fraud against the US or against private individuals; and cases referred by a US attorney’s office or in connection with pending criminal charges.

The justice department’s civil rights division has been placed at the forefront of Trump’s policy objectives, including ending diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) programs within the government as well as ending transgender treatments, among other initiatives.………

Trump’s justice department issues directive to strip naturalized Americans of citizenship for criminal offenses

Memo says those subjected to civil proceedings are not entitled to an attorney like they are in criminal cases

www.theguardian.com

Deport his wife and Elon Musk.

 

[Optimus Prime]

This could have gone in the economy thread too
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Recent raids carried out by agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in California's agricultural heartland are causing a widespread exodus of workers, threatening the harvest of billions of dollars worth of produce.

Farmers say the raids earlier this month, as part of President Donald Trump's migration crackdown, have frightened off workers and left fields in Ventura County and beyond critically understaffed.

Ventura County produces billions of dollars worth of fruit and vegetables each year, much of it hand-picked by immigrants in the U.S. illegally. Lisa Tate, a sixth-generation farmer in the area, has observed the immediate and chilling effect of the ICE operations.

"In the fields, I would say 70 percent of the workers are gone," she said.

"If 70 percent of your workforce doesn't show up, 70 percent of your crop doesn't get picked and can go bad in one day. Most Americans don't want to do this work. Most farmers here are barely breaking even. I fear this has created a tipping point where many will go bust."

The agricultural lands north of Los Angeles, stretching from Ventura County into the state's central valley, two farmers, two field supervisors and four immigrant farmworkers told Reuters this month that the ICE raids have led a majority of workers to stop showing up.

That means crops are not being picked and fruit and vegetables are rotting at peak harvest time, they said.………

Trump’s ICE raids on farms risk US food supply, economists warn

A sharp reduction in the number of agricultural workers could have devastating impacts on the food supply chain and farm-belt economies

www.independent.co.uk

 

[MT15]

This is just mind-numbingly stupid. Yeah those roofers and carpenters are a real threat to everyone.

Just embarrassing. These guys should be embarrassed.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

This could have gone in the economy thread too
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Recent raids carried out by agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in California's agricultural heartland are causing a widespread exodus of workers, threatening the harvest of billions of dollars worth of produce.

Farmers say the raids earlier this month, as part of President Donald Trump's migration crackdown, have frightened off workers and left fields in Ventura County and beyond critically understaffed.

Ventura County produces billions of dollars worth of fruit and vegetables each year, much of it hand-picked by immigrants in the U.S. illegally. Lisa Tate, a sixth-generation farmer in the area, has observed the immediate and chilling effect of the ICE operations.

"In the fields, I would say 70 percent of the workers are gone," she said.

"If 70 percent of your workforce doesn't show up, 70 percent of your crop doesn't get picked and can go bad in one day. Most Americans don't want to do this work. Most farmers here are barely breaking even. I fear this has created a tipping point where many will go bust."

The agricultural lands north of Los Angeles, stretching from Ventura County into the state's central valley, two farmers, two field supervisors and four immigrant farmworkers told Reuters this month that the ICE raids have led a majority of workers to stop showing up.

That means crops are not being picked and fruit and vegetables are rotting at peak harvest time, they said.………

Trump’s ICE raids on farms risk US food supply, economists warn

A sharp reduction in the number of agricultural workers could have devastating impacts on the food supply chain and farm-belt economies

www.independent.co.uk

I think that's one of the reasons Trump targeted CA. Agriculture is one of our main industries and it's being hit hard. Most of the farmers that will likely go bankrupt voted for Trump and his Republicans. This is such a great way to show gratitude to the people who helped put you in office.

Also, if CA loses 70% of it's crops, that will create a food crunch nationwide that will drive food prices higher.

 

[MT15]

Another person dead in ICE custody. A 75yo Cuban refugee who had been in the US for 60 years.

It’s sickening.

 

[MT15]

They decided to deport him, even though he had lived here legally since he fled Castro at the age of 16. He had 2 arrests for minor controlled substance charges - over 40 years ago - which seems to have been the basis for their decision to deport him.

But once again - rather than doing it the correct way they have chosen to pick him up and throw him in prison immediately. Without any due process and before they had a removal order.

People need to go to jail over this. It’s deliberately lawless. From the article above:

‘Miller recently berated ICE officials for lagging deportation numbers, demanding that they round up more migrants in Home Depot parking lots, which by definition targets people who are merely here to work. And The Washington Postreports that to prosecute the wrongfully deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia for smuggling migrants, the Trump administration is releasing from prison a three-time felon who “drunkenly fired shots in a Texas community,” sparing him deportation to secure his cooperation as a witness.

That move literally releases into the United States a far more serious and dangerous criminal to target a far less serious offender, simply because Trump and Miller insist Abrego Garcia must be convicted of something, to sustain their propaganda narrative that all migrants are criminals.’

 

[MT15]

This is confirming my uneasy feeling about this SCOTUS. They intend to undo birthright citizenship. This “procedural” ruling just sets the stage and signals to Trump that they are willing to do so. Precedent means nothing to them, partisan ideology and corruption means everything.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The Trump administration has brought few apparent penalties against businesses employing undocumented immigrants, despite promising to use unprecedented enforcement actions against employers to break up the economic incentives for illegal immigration.

A Washington Post analysis found that just one business has faced charges from among the roughly two dozen the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency has announced raiding.

In that case, stemming from a March operation, the manager of a San Diego powder coating business pleaded guilty earlier this month to a pattern of hiring undocumented immigrants, admitting to employing at least 10 people illegally.

The manager, John Washburn, was sentenced to a year of probation and 50 hours of community service, the Justice Department said.………

Trump promised to hit employers who hired illegal workers. Only a handful have been

The Trump administration has promised to ‘flood the zone’ and conduct unprecedented enforcement actions against businesses employing undocumented workers

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Sendai]

This is confirming my uneasy feeling about this SCOTUS. They intend to undo birthright citizenship. This “procedural” ruling just sets the stage and signals to Trump that they are willing to do so. Precedent means nothing to them, partisan ideology and corruption means everything.

Supreme Court history on overturning precedent.

1930-1939 - 11
1940-1949 - 31
1950-1959 - 6
1960-1969 - 39
1970-1979 - 34
1980-1989 - 25
1990-1999 - 23
2000-2009 - 14
2010-2019 - 12
2020-2025 - 4

https://constitution.congress.gov/resources/decisions-overruled/