Will “mass deportation” actually happen (4 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

 

[MT15]

Just a reminder that they’re not going after criminals or gang members. They’re going after cooks, busboys, waiters, ag workers and construction workers. Not the people who employ them, either. No definitely not them. Just the poor people working the jobs that Americans don’t want to do.

I read that an elementary school graduation ceremony was raided in CA (might not be remembering the state correctly). Helicopters in the sky, masked men with long guns and body armor, unmarked vehicles. Neighboring schools had to go on lockdown.

This is what ICE is doing. Terrorizing poor people. It’s evil.

 

[MT15]

The ideas that Trump is putting forth come from an extremely dark place.

 

[MT15]

A couple paragraphs from the essay.

‘In a legal filing defending Donald Trump’s use of the Alien Enemies Act (of “Alien and Sedition Acts” notoriety) to send people to El Salvador’s notoriously brutal prison camp, government attorneys argued something astonishing: The president has “inherent” authority to deport anyone, anywhere, at any time—bypassing any limit imposed by Congress and beyond the reach of the courts. Although a Trump-appointed judge in Texas has for now blocked the use of this act, using it isn’t even necessary, in this view, since this power stemmed from Article II of the Constitution.

However, there is nothing in the Constitution that sees executive power as a kind of ultimate sovereignty.

This claim, along with similar ones being advanced on issues ranging from birthright citizenship to retaliation against law firms, signals something profoundly disturbing: an embrace of boundless, absolute, unchecked power. The notion is completely foreign to American constitutional law and the political philosophy on which the country was founded, which put the defense of individual rights at the center of its project and firm limits on an executive’s power to abrogate them. Its origins can be found, ironically enough, in the ideology of past “enemy aliens.”’

 

[MT15]

Happening now in CA. ICE and possibly local police have blanketed an entire neighborhood with chemical gas, and are using alternate munitions against neighborhood people who came out to protest when ICE showed up at a local Home Depot. One person was hit by an ICE vehicle and was unconscious. Several elderly people were overcome by the gas. Bushes have been set on fire by stun munitions fired at protestors. This is ridiculous.

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

So the people they grabbed yesterday in CA have been held in very cruel conditions. There was a protest yesterday at the site of the detentions. Officials refusing to allow families to contact detainees, etc.

 

[MT15]

This was yesterday - ICE throwing munitions from moving vehicles led to at least one person injured seriously enough to go to ED.

 

[MT15]

From an account that doesn’t want links to outside sites.

 

[Dragon]

They are doing their best to make people so angry that they can initiate the insurrection act.

 

[MT15]

They are doing their best to make people so angry that they can initiate the insurrection act.

Oh, I agree. They picked CA deliberately IMO. The abuse of authority and the heavy handed thuggery of ICE is meant to provoke normal citizens into action.

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

An eye witness claims civilians were only watching and yelling at ICE, who then fired tear gas at them pretty much unprovoked. It would not surprise me to find out that these men, who are masked and completely unidentified, don’t turn out to be Proud Boys or other thugs with little to no training in crowd control.

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

A beloved union leader was treated brutally during his arrest yesterday in CA. He was resisting non-violently when ICE tried to move. He was shoved down, hitting his head on concrete and then pepper sprayed. He was taken to the hospital. Historically non-violent protests like this are arrested carefully and non-violently. It recalls the beatings civil rights leaders enduring during sit-ins in the South.

A quote from an article about the arrest, which has brought out condemnation from several large national unions. There was no reason for the brutality shown.

“Meanwhile, Stephen Miller, the Santa Monica native and architect of Trump's deportation plans, has said the raids we are seeing now are just the beginning, and that he would like to see thousands of arrests every day, because our immigrant communities are filled with "every kind of criminal thug that you can imagine on planet earth."”

I can see who are the ones acting like criminal thugs, and it’s not the immigrants.

Commentary: ICE arrested a California union leader. Does Trump understand what that means? — Los Angeles Times

Unions in California are different from many in the U.S. because they are predominately people of color and immigrants. The arrest of a union president in L.A. will likely activate these unions to become powerful forces of nonviolent protest.

apple.news

 

[MT15]

If the governor of CA doesn’t request the National Guard can Homan deploy the Guard in CA?

This legislation seems prudent now:

 

[MT15]

Police in LA are “assisting” ICE and doing the same shirt they always do: 2 photojournalists were struck by tear gas canisters fired directly at them - one was hit in the head and went to the ED. LA police are firing less lethal ammunition directly at unarmed protestors - but doing so in a dangerous manner that has resulted in deaths in the past.

 

[MT15]

This type of response is not only on shaky moral grounds, it’s financially stupid.

Austin has paid out $27 million to people injured by police during 2020 racial justice protests

Nearly 30 people sued the city over the Austin Police Department's use of so-called less-lethal ammunition five years ago.

www.kut.org

 

[Optimus Prime]

PARAMOUNT, Calif. (AP) — President Donald Trump is deploying 2,000 California National Guard troops over the governor’s objections to Los Angeles over where protests Saturday led to clashes between immigration authorities and demonstrators.

The White House said in a statement Saturday that Trump was deploying the Guardsmen to “address the lawlessness that has been allowed to fester” in California.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, objected to the move and said in a post on X that the move from the Republican president was “purposefully inflammatory and will only escalate tensions.”

The White House’s move to dramatically ratchet up the response came as protests in Los Angeles extended into a second day where tear gas and smoke filled the air as protesters faced off with Border Patrol personnel in riot gear.

Trump federalized part of the state’s National Guard under what is known as Title 10 authority, which places him, not the governor, atop the chain of command, Newsom told The Associated Press…….

Trump deploying California National Guard over governor's objections to LA to quell protests

The president is deploying 2,000 troops to Los Angeles, where protests Saturday led to clashes between immigration authorities and demonstrators, despite Gov. Gavin Newsom's objections.

apnews.com