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    This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

    We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

    There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?



     
    RobF said:
    The caveat I'd add to the (on the face of it entirely reasonable) "there isn't another Trump" is that there wasn't a first Trump, until there was.

    He was a joke candidate. Polling at 2-4%, 150-1 odds at the start in 2015.

    We all know what happened next unfortunately.

    But the point is, no-one realised Trump was this Trump until it happened. We may or may not see the next one coming.
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    Everyone forgets that Trump has been building his campaign for decades.
    People forget, but when the Simpsons did that Trump joke he had a 2000 Presidential Campaign.
    And he carefully built it during the Obama administration when he made regular call in appearances on Fox News.
    Make no mistake, he didn’t get off the couch and decide to run.
     
    Saint Jack said:
    Everyone forgets that Trump has been building his campaign for decades.
    People forget, but when the Simpsons did that Trump joke he had a 2000 Presidential Campaign.
    And he carefully built it during the Obama administration when he made regular call in appearances on Fox News.
    Make no mistake, he didn’t get off the couch and decide to run.
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    By the start, I was referring to the start of polling in 2015. That was where all that previous history had got him to at that point.
     
    MT15 said:
    I don’t think that is actually true. Not any longer. Going from memory the highest % that voted for Trump came in the 40-50’s age group. Maybe 40-65. Over 65’s weren’t as high a % I don’t think.

    Edit: looking at your age, maybe you think those folks won’t be around, lol.

    Also Barron is 19 I’m guessing. Eligible to run in 16 years.
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    16 years is a long time.
    I can only use myself as an example but I viewed Reagan as soooo old because they were my grandparents choice (side note, they were vastly anti Trump while they were alive)
    Same with the Bushes.

    And here’s another aspect, for the past decades the Trump name has been associated (rightly or wrongly) with wealth and a certain status.
    That’s not happening now.
    Not to be mean, but as the years go by, that name is gonna be associated being more rural and whatever shine that name had in the 80s and 90s to the 00s when the Trump name getting name dropped in every other rap song isn’t happening.
     
    Saint Jack said:
    I don’t think it’ll get to that point. Trump will leave kicking and screaming, but he will leave.
    Personally, it’s my belief that there’s a growing sect of Republicans that are counting down the days till they can separate from the Trump cycle entirely.

    But I’ll go with this scenario. The U.S. is too valuable.
    If Trump doesn’t leave, other countries will come in and force him out.
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    The last election wasn't legitimate.
     
    Republican hosts an event at a library but has a staffer call the library and tell them to call the police. Librarians refuse. Staffer decided to speak to one person at a time rather than address everybody at the same time.

    www.courierpress.com

    Messmer's office wanted Boonville library to call police on constituents; director said no

    Rep. Mark Messmer’s office asked the Boonville Library to call the police on residents during an office hours event, the library's director confirmed.
    www.courierpress.com
     

    So...now that their hood is off, I guess we should be careful with our critique of Republican Party's actions! You can storm the Capitol, only if you are doing so in favor of Republicans and you better not do anything against Tesla, or any Musk asset, or you will be labeled a terrorist. :9:
     
    Under the watch of the GOP, the United States has become a cowardly nation that has turned on its loyalist friend and neighbor and has bent the knee to our longtime adversary.
     
    Republican leaders have grown privately alarmed about the massive fundraising disparity their candidate, Randy Fine, faces in a special House election in a deep-red Florida district and have swooped in to help resuscitate his campaign at the 11th hour.

    House GOP leaders have in recent days been calling donors to plead for financial help in the race to fill the seat previously held by Michael Waltz, who is now President Donald Trump's national security adviser, according to two sources with knowledge of the matter. In addition, Fine, a state senator, has made personal pleas to Florida-based lobbyists and donors for a quick infusion of cash, according to two sources familiar with those conversations, ahead of the April 1 election.

    While party leaders in both Washington and Florida are ultimately confident that Fine will pull off a victory, Republicans say they’re frustrated that they need to intervene in a district that Trump won by 30 points last year.

    Rep. Richard Hudson, R-N.C., who leads the House GOP’s campaign arm, said Fine “needs to do better” on his fundraising. But Hudson was confident Republicans would hold onto the seat, and said he did not expect the National Republican Congressional Committee to spend in the race.

    “I would have preferred if our candidate had raised money at a faster rate and gotten on TV quicker,” Hudson told NBC News on Monday. “But he’s doing what he needs to do. He’s on TV now. We’re gonna win the seat. I’m not concerned at all.”

    Fine’s campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

    Fine has been significantly outraised by his Democratic opponent, teacher Josh Weil, who has raised a whopping $9.7 million to Fine’s $561,000, according to fundraising reports filed last week with the Federal Election Commission. Fine also just started airing his first TV ad last week as part of a joint ad buy with the Florida Republican Party, according to the ad-tracking firm AdImpact.............

    www.nbcnews.com

    GOP leaders raise alarm bells over a Florida special election in a deep-red district

    Republican are concerned about the lackluster fundraising by state Sen. Randy Fine, their candidate in next week's special election in Florida's 6th District.
    www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    Republican leaders have grown privately alarmed about the massive fundraising disparity their candidate, Randy Fine, faces in a special House election in a deep-red Florida district and have swooped in to help resuscitate his campaign at the 11th hour.

    House GOP leaders have in recent days been calling donors to plead for financial help in the race to fill the seat previously held by Michael Waltz, who is now President Donald Trump's national security adviser, according to two sources with knowledge of the matter. In addition, Fine, a state senator, has made personal pleas to Florida-based lobbyists and donors for a quick infusion of cash, according to two sources familiar with those conversations, ahead of the April 1 election.

    While party leaders in both Washington and Florida are ultimately confident that Fine will pull off a victory, Republicans say they’re frustrated that they need to intervene in a district that Trump won by 30 points last year.

    Rep. Richard Hudson, R-N.C., who leads the House GOP’s campaign arm, said Fine “needs to do better” on his fundraising. But Hudson was confident Republicans would hold onto the seat, and said he did not expect the National Republican Congressional Committee to spend in the race.

    “I would have preferred if our candidate had raised money at a faster rate and gotten on TV quicker,” Hudson told NBC News on Monday. “But he’s doing what he needs to do. He’s on TV now. We’re gonna win the seat. I’m not concerned at all.”

    Fine’s campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

    Fine has been significantly outraised by his Democratic opponent, teacher Josh Weil, who has raised a whopping $9.7 million to Fine’s $561,000, according to fundraising reports filed last week with the Federal Election Commission. Fine also just started airing his first TV ad last week as part of a joint ad buy with the Florida Republican Party, according to the ad-tracking firm AdImpact.............

    www.nbcnews.com

    GOP leaders raise alarm bells over a Florida special election in a deep-red district

    Republican are concerned about the lackluster fundraising by state Sen. Randy Fine, their candidate in next week's special election in Florida's 6th District.
    www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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    I’m guessing a lot of the money for Weil is coming from outside the district and won’t make a lick of difference in the end.
     
    Booker said:
    I’m guessing a lot of the money for Weil is coming from outside the district and won’t make a lick of difference in the end.
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    Yeah, I wouldn't be too excited about this. If Weil is within 10 points of Fine I would be surprised.
     

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