What happens to the Republican Party now? (4 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

It’s just part of the grift. Trump is a master conman.

This is Day One for me here. A brand new member posting for the first time.
Anyway....I am a conservative who voted for Trump in the general election, but not in the primary.
Once he got in office I liked the policies and the results he got here at home as well as interntionally.....but....I never liked him. To this day that is still the case.
In Nov. of 2024, if he is the Republican nominee I will vote for him...but I sure hope Trump is NOT the Republican nominee. I think the country would move forward so much better without such a polarizing president as Trump.
Does anyone else agree or relate to how I have expressed myself?

 

[MT15]

Who do you think really won the presidential election in 2020?

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Who do you think really won the presidential election in 2020?

Biden.
But......the current president only won because it was a pandemic situation in which so many folks voted by mail.
I believe in my heart of hearts, if no one voted until election day, and everyone who was healthy enough to go to the polls....if "everyone" went to the polls ON election day, President Trump would have won.

 

[MT15]

Why do you think that?

 

[bird]

Biden.
But......the current president only won because it was a pandemic situation in which so many folks voted by mail.
I believe in my heart of hearts, if no one voted until election day, and everyone who was healthy enough to go to the polls....if "everyone" went to the polls ON election day, President Trump would have won.

And exactly what does voting by mail have to do with anything? Trump has voted by mail.

I believe in my heart of hearts that you want fewer people voting. Frank Luntz stated that Republicans do worse when more people vote.

Voting should be easy. Attempts to control non-existent voter fraud are simply cover for limiting the actual number of voters.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Biden.
But......the current president only won because it was a pandemic situation in which so many folks voted by mail.
I believe in my heart of hearts, if no one voted until election day, and everyone who was healthy enough to go to the polls....if "everyone" went to the polls ON election day, President Trump would have won.

Do you think that the voting by mail swung the election towards Biden because of fraud or because of the ease of voting?

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Do you think that the voting by mail swung the election towards Biden because of fraud or because of the ease of voting?

I am at PA Turnpike Rest Stop. My end destination will be Lynchburg VA. This is not a good time for me to fully explain my position. Have a great Saturday everyone

 

[The moose]

This is Day One for me here. A brand new member posting for the first time.
Anyway....I am a conservative who voted for Trump in the general election, but not in the primary.
Once he got in office I liked the policies and the results he got here at home as well as interntionally.....but....I never liked him. To this day that is still the case.
In Nov. of 2024, if he is the Republican nominee I will vote for him...but I sure hope Trump is NOT the Republican nominee. I think the country would move forward so much better without such a polarizing president as Trump.
Does anyone else agree or relate to how I have expressed myself?

I have a couple questions for you.

The thing that chapped my hide about him in general was the spineless republican party. The first thing that should have happened was before the nomination they should have basically said this is how this works or you don't get it. All the cronyism and refusal of tax records I blame on that party. After the party bent over and took it in the backside they had no chance of getting party issues taken care of before his.

Did you agree with that? The failing to release tax info? The major donors being appointments they had no way shape or form to be qualified for? And I am not talking about ambassadors jobs. His family like son in law having real responsibility? His businesses being funneled tax payer dollars? All of that I lay at the spineless republican party.

The other thing that truly confused me what accomplishments while in office helped his base? The corporation tax cut helped the stock market because they bought their own stock back like they said they would. I don't know how that helped the base? Then they all got huge pandemic bailouts that the base will pay for in taxes.

The tariff stuff did not help the base. The wall stuff did not help the base. Did the space force? I am at a complete and total loss on how he helped anyone except the filthy rich maybe you can shed some light on it?

I know he empowered white supremacist and stuff like that but at a loss when it comes to other members of the base besides the filthy rich and the kkk?

I would love to be enlightened.

 

[MT15]

I am at PA Turnpike Rest Stop. My end destination will be Lynchburg VA. This is not a good time for me to fully explain my position. Have a great Saturday everyone

Have a safe trip!

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Is there anything more pathetic than a U.S. Senator groveling to a whiny little maggot like Tucker Carlson?

How does Ted Cruz even walk? He is a total spineless coward.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/01/08/tucker-carlson-attack-on-ted-cruz-establishes-him-as-cable-news-monarch/

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

I have a couple questions for you.

The thing that chapped my hide about him in general was the spineless republican party. The first thing that should have happened was before the nomination they should have basically said this is how this works or you don't get it. All the cronyism and refusal of tax records I blame on that party. After the party bent over and took it in the backside they had no chance of getting party issues taken care of before his.

Did you agree with that? The failing to release tax info? The major donors being appointments they had no way shape or form to be qualified for? And I am not talking about ambassadors jobs. His family like son in law having real responsibility? His businesses being funneled tax payer dollars? All of that I lay at the spineless republican party.

The other thing that truly confused me what accomplishments while in office helped his base? The corporation tax cut helped the stock market because they bought their own stock back like they said they would. I don't know how that helped the base? Then they all got huge pandemic bailouts that the base will pay for in taxes.

The tariff stuff did not help the base. The wall stuff did not help the base. Did the space force? I am at a complete and total loss on how he helped anyone except the filthy rich maybe you can shed some light on it?

I know he empowered white supremacist and stuff like that but at a loss when it comes to other members of the base besides the filthy rich and the kkk?

I would love to be enlightened.

I am disappointed with this forum. I hoped to have some conservative friends to talk to....but it seems I am surrounded by liberals who just want to put ME on the defensive.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Have a safe trip!

We are here. Thank you for wishing us well

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

I am disappointed with this forum. I hoped to have some conservative friends to talk to....but it seems I am surrounded by liberals who just want to put ME on the defensive.

Putting conservatives on the defensive is not difficult.

If you had a legitimate point of view regarding various matters and those views were actually supported by facts, then you wouldn't have to be on the defensive all of the time.

But when your entire party has joined a fascist Trump cult, well.....that does make matters for you more difficult.

Even more disturbing....why would you vote for Trump again in 2024 after he launched an insurrection against our government? He is a traitor.

You may dislike the Democratic Party, but they are not a menace to democracy like Trump is.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Putting conservatives on the defensive is not difficult.

If you had a legitimate point of view regarding various matters and those views were actually supported by facts, then you wouldn't have to be on the defensive all of the time.

But when your entire party has joined a fascist Trump cult, well.....that does make matters for you more difficult.

Even more disturbing....why would you vote for Trump again in 2024 after he launched an insurrection against our government? He is a traitor.

You may dislike the Democratic Party, but they are not a menace to democracy like Trump is.

Whatever. President Biden is doing a terrible job and the Republicans will roll all over the Democrats in the 2022 midterms. I will remind the readers two things I stated earlier: 1) President Trump did NOT receive my vote in the primaries that led up to his ultimate nomination. 2) President Trump is NOT my desired candidate for 2024. If you are looking to engage someone with whom you can discuss Trump...look somewhere else. I am not his fan and not desiring to defend him. He is annoying....but....Biden is worse than annoying. He is destroying the economy....he embarrassed us in Afganistan....people were left behind there. He promised Covid relief . That was unrealistic of him and that is not working out. America was self sufficient in oil/gasoline and now we are dependent on Arabs. These are just the things I can think of now but I am sure there are other horrible things he has done to this country that at I left out. The independents that voted Democratic in 2020 are going to vote Republican in 2022. Biden is a loser!

 

[MT15]

Steve, it would be nice if you would stick around. Everyone could use some insight into the way other people view politics. But I understand if you aren’t up for some challenging conversations. Be well.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Thank you.

Steve, it would be nice if you would stick around. Everyone could use some insight into the way other people view politics. But I understand if you aren’t up for some challenging conversations. Be well.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Thank you.

I chose a poor time to start on this thread. Today I traveled from NJ to VA. Tomorrow I have to drive all the way back again. I did not realize what I was getting into here. I need rest....not stimulating debate. Thank you in advance everyone for your anticipated understanding.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Whatever. President Biden is doing a terrible job and the Republicans will roll all over the Democrats in the 2022 midterms. I will remind the readers two things I stated earlier: 1) President Trump did NOT receive my vote in the primaries that led up to his ultimate nomination. 2) President Trump is NOT my desired candidate for 2024. If you are looking to engage someone with whom you can discuss Trump...look somewhere else. I am not his fan and not desiring to defend him. He is annoying....but....Biden is worse than annoying. He is destroying the economy....he embarrassed us in Afganistan....people were left behind there. He promised Covid relief . That was unrealistic of him and that is not working out. America was self sufficient in oil/gasoline and now we are dependent on Arabs. These are just the things I can think of now but I am sure there are other horrible things he has done to this country that at I left out. The independents that voted Democratic in 2020 are going to vote Republican in 2022. I am DONE with this thread. Bye!

Your #1 response and your #2 mad conservative rant response are not relevant to my question.

I asked you why you would vote for a traitor like Trump in 2024 over the Democratic Party. Trump is a threat to democracy. Biden is not. The Democrats are not.

And you can't answer or you refuse to answer.