What happens to the Republican Party now? (1 Viewer)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

Wow, again??? I guess it combines their 2 favorite things.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Another "sweetheart" deal for a pedophile that was trump faith advisor and GOP ally. Dude plead guilty and will only serve 6 MONTHS of a weak 10yr sentence.

PAWHUSKA, Okla.— Robert Morris, the Texas megachurch pastor who built Gateway Church into one of the largest congregations in the country, pleaded guilty Thursday in Osage County District Court to charges that he sexually abused a girl in the 1980s.

Morris, 64, entered the plea before Judge Cindy Pickerill, admitting to five felony counts of lewd or indecent acts with a child. Under a negotiated plea agreement, he was given a 10-year sentence, but he will serve only six months in the county jail. He must also register as a sex offender and pay $250,000 in restitution.



Morris was handcuffed and taken into custody after Thursday's hearing. His lawyer told reporters that he "sincerely apologizes for his conduct."

Robert Morris, Texas megachurch pastor, pleads guilty to sexually abusing a child

Under a plea agreement, Morris was given a 10-year sentence, but he will serve only six months in an Oklahoma jail.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[MT15]

Thing is you know it wasn’t only one girl. Pedophiles almost always keep going once they have started.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Thing is you know it wasn’t only one girl. Pedophiles almost always keep going once they have started.

A guy like that, with the power he had, there's likely dozens of other victims out there and their families are likely holding them back because they are trying to protect their "church".

 

[fooferdoggie]

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Bruh.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Bruh.

I think every outspoken black person has been told at some point how “grateful” they should be

 

[MT15]

Not to mention it implies that she owes this country something for her success. This is her country just as much as it is his, she was born in NY. And it takes away any credit to her for working hard and succeeding on her merits. I can tell you Joy Reid is a very intelligent person, whether you agree with her political views or not.

Vance is a sick man. Sick in his head.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

I think every outspoken black person has been told at some point how “grateful” they should be

Or some variation of "shut up and dribble."

 

[Optimus Prime]

Guess this can go here
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Butterworth’s, an eclectically decorated restaurant in Washington DC, is an unofficial lounge of the Maga elite.

A nameplate on one table declares it the official “nook” of Raheem Kassam, the former adviser to the rightwing British politician Nigel Farage and a co-owner of the restaurant. Steve Bannon is also frequently sighted holding court over Carolina gold rice – though the signature dish is bone-marrow escargot, which some young Maga politicos swear is good for your collagen.

When he opened the farm-to-table brasserie in 2024, Bart Hutchins, Butterworth’s chef and one of its partners, was determined to resist what he sees as “the new puritanism” of wellness and sobriety culture.

Hutchins finds non-alcoholic “mocktails” annoying on principle. “I did this edict, where I was like, ‘I’m not stocking that stuff,’” he said. “If you want to drink a glass of juice, just ask for a glass of juice; I’m not gonna pretend it’s a cocktail.”

Hutchins has never felt teetotalism’s temptation, he told me, and his memory of drinks marketed as alcohol alternatives, like the near-beer O’Doul’s, was that they were “terrible”.

But lately, as more Republican staffers, pundits and politicians patronize Butterworth’s antler-bedecked environs, a fifth column of non-drinkers has quietly undermined his anti-mocktail edict.

It’s not just at Butterworth’s where rightwingers are drinking less. A Gallup poll in August found that the share of Americans of any political stripe who say they consume alcohol is at its lowest in nearly 90 years – though by only one percentage point.

More strikingly, Republicans are the group, of the many demographic cohorts measured, that has turned most aggressively to sobriety.

Gallup, which has asked Americans about their alcohol use since the 1930s, found in 2023 that 65% of Republicans said they drink alcohol – about the same as Democrats and independents.

Just two years later, in 2025, that number has plunged a staggering 19 points to 46%.

Democrats and independents also report drinking less, but each only by single digits. (All the results are self-reported; Gallup took participants at their word.)

The decline is surprising and “statistically significant”, Lydia Saad, the director of US social research at Gallup, told me – though she has “no real hypothesis” for the sudden rise of Republican teetotalism.

Laurence Whyatt, an analyst at Barclays who covers the beverage industry, “can’t explain it” either.

He suspects the broader US decline in drinking may have to do with pandemic-era inflation and belt-tightening and may not last.

“But there’s no obvious reason why Republicans would be drinking less,” he said. “Of course, I’m aware that some prominent Republicans don’t drink. Could that be the reason?”

Yet theories abound. Perhaps this is another manifestation of the cult of personality around Donald Trump, a Diet Coke enthusiast.

Maybe the rising tide of Christian nationalism has revived an old-fashioned Protestant temperance.

Or perhaps red-blooded rightwingers, eager to “Make America healthy again”, are eschewing beer, barbecues and bourbon to become the sort of smoothie-drinking health nuts they might once have mocked.

Prominent rightwing or right-adjacent abstainers include Trump himself, whose older brother died of alcoholism-related heart attack; Robert F Kennedy Jr (who has spoken about his own substance problems); Tucker Carlson (a recovering alcoholic); and the activist Charlie Kirk (for health reasons).

JD Vance drinks, but his predecessor Mike Pence, a devout born-again Christian, did not. Joe Rogan, the podcaster and gym-bro whisperer who endorsed Trump in 2024, quit drinking this year for health reasons………

Mocktails for Maga: why the US right is turning sober

Tucker Carlson says young people are more health-conscious than older generations. Does it explain why Republicans are drinking less?

www.theguardian.com

 

[MT15]

This isn’t the first GOP politician I have seen say this. It’s hate speech, full stop.

 

[MT15]

They are also saying to the military that the 2020 election was stolen, still.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The words of Blaise Ingoglia, the Ron DeSantisloyalist handpicked to lead the Republican Florida governor’s Doge-style assault on local government spending, could not have been more prophetic.

“Expect a knock on the door from us,” Ingoglia warned on 1 October as he announced upcoming audits for Democratic-run cities and counties whose “excessively wasteful” pecuniary habits displeased the DeSantis administration.

The knock came soon enough, but in an unexpected place. Two armed police officers in bulletproof vests, sent by the criminal investigations division of Ingoglia’s Floridadepartment of financial services, turned up at the home of a retired couple in Largo, demanding to know whether they had sent him a handwritten postcard that contained only three words: “You lack values.”

“It was designed to intimidate us,” said James O’Gara, a military veteran who said the non-threatening card was one of dozens he has sent to various local, state and national politicians as part of a campaign of peaceful protest.

“I presume that most of them aren’t even read, they just get thrown in the garbage. But I wrote one to Blaise Ingoglia about his Doge activities, and two law enforcement officers are standing at my doorstep telling my wife they need to speak to me.

“They’re all in black, ‘police’ in giant reflective lettering across their vests, weapons at their side and all the other stuff on their belts. It was very intimidating for not even a threatening statement. I mean, the whole financial responsibility issue … they used very little judgment, or very little good judgment.”………..

Doge-ish comes to Florida: a DeSantis loyalist is going after ‘waste’ in Democratic cities

Blaise Ingoglia was handpicked by the Republican Florida governor to lead an assault on municipal spending

www.theguardian.com

 

[MT15]

The words of Blaise Ingoglia, the Ron DeSantisloyalist handpicked to lead the Republican Florida governor’s Doge-style assault on local government spending, could not have been more prophetic.

“Expect a knock on the door from us,” Ingoglia warned on 1 October as he announced upcoming audits for Democratic-run cities and counties whose “excessively wasteful” pecuniary habits displeased the DeSantis administration.

The knock came soon enough, but in an unexpected place. Two armed police officers in bulletproof vests, sent by the criminal investigations division of Ingoglia’s Floridadepartment of financial services, turned up at the home of a retired couple in Largo, demanding to know whether they had sent him a handwritten postcard that contained only three words: “You lack values.”

“It was designed to intimidate us,” said James O’Gara, a military veteran who said the non-threatening card was one of dozens he has sent to various local, state and national politicians as part of a campaign of peaceful protest.

“I presume that most of them aren’t even read, they just get thrown in the garbage. But I wrote one to Blaise Ingoglia about his Doge activities, and two law enforcement officers are standing at my doorstep telling my wife they need to speak to me.

“They’re all in black, ‘police’ in giant reflective lettering across their vests, weapons at their side and all the other stuff on their belts. It was very intimidating for not even a threatening statement. I mean, the whole financial responsibility issue … they used very little judgment, or very little good judgment.”………..

Doge-ish comes to Florida: a DeSantis loyalist is going after ‘waste’ in Democratic cities

Blaise Ingoglia was handpicked by the Republican Florida governor to lead an assault on municipal spending

www.theguardian.com

DeSantis has been practicing authoritarian rule in FL ever since he was elected. Rewarding donors with fat contracts, suppressing speech he doesn’t agree with, taking over a state university he didn’t like and decimating it. Telling corporations what they can and cannot say when they train their new employees.

He is a wannabe fascist.

 

[MT15]

Evidently the Trump Admin guy who took $50k in cash from federal agents posing as businessmen promising to steer government contracts their way, and who wasn’t charged by the Trump DOJ, never returned the cash. Just kept the $50k of taxpayer money. Vance was defending him.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Classy as always
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……..When HuffPost asked the White House who chose the location for the meeting, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt replied, “Your mom did.”

White House Communications Director Steven Cheung also followed up with, “Your mom,” the outlet reports.

HuffPost then asked Leavitt if she thought her response was funny.

She responded: “It’s funny to me that you actually consider yourself a journal [sic]. You are a far left hack who nobody takes seriously, including your colleagues in the media, they just don’t tell you that to your face. Stop texting me your disingenuous, biased, and bulls*** questions.”

When The Independent asked the White House if “your mom” was an appropriate answer, spokesperson Taylor Rogers responded that it was “more than appropriate.”………

Karoline Leavitt says ‘Your mom’ when asked who picked Hungary for Putin-Trump talks

Trump said he will meet with the Kremlin leader in Budapest to discuss an end to the war in Ukraine

www.independent.co.uk

 

[bird]

Classy as always
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……..When HuffPost asked the White House who chose the location for the meeting, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt replied, “Your mom did.”

White House Communications Director Steven Cheung also followed up with, “Your mom,” the outlet reports.

HuffPost then asked Leavitt if she thought her response was funny.

She responded: “It’s funny to me that you actually consider yourself a journal [sic]. You are a far left hack who nobody takes seriously, including your colleagues in the media, they just don’t tell you that to your face. Stop texting me your disingenuous, biased, and bulls*** questions.”

When The Independent asked the White House if “your mom” was an appropriate answer, spokesperson Taylor Rogers responded that it was “more than appropriate.”………

Karoline Leavitt says ‘Your mom’ when asked who picked Hungary for Putin-Trump talks

Trump said he will meet with the Kremlin leader in Budapest to discuss an end to the war in Ukraine

www.independent.co.uk

The enshirtification of the government is accelerating. People that would normally be reasonably far from Center are now tasked with running Center for the mentally damaged grifter and his courtiers. They are not up to the task.

What they all are up to is the long term destruction of the country and the completely unpredictable aftermath of that worldwide.

It is the spherical law of unpredictability as applied to human political economy: for every action there is a reaction the magnitude and direction of which becomes increasingly impossible to predict as complexity increases.

They have, in essence, unleashed chaos through their blindness, arrogance and weak morality.