What happens to the Republican Party now? (1 Viewer)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[Optimus Prime]

This could have gone in a number of threads. First time hearing about the Bobs incident
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With democracy on the ballot, we must safeguard every vote.

The integrity of our democratic process is fundamental to the health of our nation. Yet, in recent years, we’ve seen an alarming increase in attempts to undermine this cornerstone of American society — even here in Washington state. From blatant voter confusion tactics to suggestions of placing ballot boxes in gun ranges, these efforts threaten the very foundation of fair and accessible elections. As we approach another crucial election year, we must recognize these threats and stand firm in defense of our democratic institutions.

The ‘Three Bobs’ Incident​

This past May, Washington state witnessed a troubling attempt to manipulate our electoral process. An Olympia-based Republican operative recruited two men named “Bob Ferguson” to file for governor of Washington — an apparent effort to confuse voters and undermine the campaign of Democratic frontrunner and Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson.

This wasn’t just a harmless prank but a calculated move that could have disenfranchised tens of thousands of voters.

Swift action by the Ferguson campaign, exercising established Washington law, brought the matter to a resolution. However, had the two fraudulent candidates not dropped out, many Washingtonians could have accidentally voted for the wrong “Bob Ferguson,” effectively nullifying their voice in this crucial election.

This incident is not isolated. We’ve seen similar tactics employed nationwide, often followed by attempts to spin the narrative and shift blame. In Washington, some commentators attacked Ferguson for defending the integrity of our elections, conveniently ignoring who created the problem in the first place. This is akin to accusing firefighters of arson while the arsonist walks free.

Voter Intimidation?​

More concerning still are the suggestions made by some political figures that undermine the accessibility and security of our voting process. Republican gubernatorial candidate Dave Reichert — who recently said, “I love Donald Trump’s policies…On policy, we’re aligned” — raised eyebrows when he suggested placing ballot drop boxes in gun stores and firing ranges “where we know we can protect our votes.” This proposal not only implies that our current voting system is insecure (it isn’t) but it is threatening and creates a very intimidating voter environment.

Washington’s elections are already safe and secure. According to the Washington Secretary of State’s office, our state has multiple safeguards, including signature verification, secure drop boxes, and a robust auditing processes. This is why when Trump attacked the United States Post Office in a blatant political attempt to undermine vote-by-mail — Ferguson went to court in Eastern Washington and stopped him, ensuring that millions of votes across the country were counted...............

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www.thenewstribune.com

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[Optimus Prime]

The Democratic party? Robert F Kennedy Jr’s never heard of it.

On Tuesday, the former presidential candidate issued his latest condemnation of the “Democrat party”, endorsing a bizarre linguistic tradition among haters of the institution.

As Donald Trump told a rally in 2018: “I call it the Democrat party. It sounds better rhetorically.” By “better”, of course, he meant “worse”, as he explained the next year: he prefers to say “the ‘Democrat party’ because it doesn’t sound good”.

In removing two letters from “Democratic”, the former president is adopting a jibe that’s been around since at least the 1940s.

Opponents of the party long ago decided, for some reason, that this brutal act of syllabic denial would shame their opponents.

Democrats don’t seem particularly devastated by the attack, but Republicans and those who love them have stuck with it. We hear it regularly from party luminaries such as JD Vance, Mike Johnson and Nikki Haley; pragmatic independents like RFK Jr; and media voices across the vast spectrum from Fox News to Infowars.

Last week, even Tulsi Gabbard, once a Democratic presidential candidate herself, wrote an op-edproudly describing her departure from the Democrat party and support for Trump.

But even if the misnaming doesn’t exactly leave liberal snowflakes in tears, it does serve a purpose, says Nicole Holliday, acting associate professor of linguistics at the University of California, Berkeley.

It’s a marker of affiliation – an indicator of the media a person consumes and the politicians they listen to.

She recently heard a friend remark on “Democrat party” policies and asked why they used the term; the friend wasn’t even aware they had done it.

“Language is contagious, especially emotionally charged political language,” Holliday says. “Most of the time, we don’t have the cognitive bandwidth to think very hard about every single word that we’re using. We just use it because it’s what other people do.”

That lack of awareness “shows how normalized it’s become”, says Larry Glickman, Stephen and Evalyn Milman professor in American studies at Cornell University, who likens the term to a “schoolyard taunt”.

It suggests the party is “outside the mainstream of American politics so much so that we’re not even going to call them by the name they prefer. We refuse to give them that amount of respect.”…….

The strangest insult in US politics: why do Republicans call it ‘the Democrat party’?

For almost a century, opponents have removed the ‘ic’ from ‘Democratic’. Is it doing them any good?

www.theguardian.com

 

[Huntn]

This could have gone in a number of threads. First time hearing about the Bobs incident
========================================

With democracy on the ballot, we must safeguard every vote.

The integrity of our democratic process is fundamental to the health of our nation. Yet, in recent years, we’ve seen an alarming increase in attempts to undermine this cornerstone of American society — even here in Washington state. From blatant voter confusion tactics to suggestions of placing ballot boxes in gun ranges, these efforts threaten the very foundation of fair and accessible elections. As we approach another crucial election year, we must recognize these threats and stand firm in defense of our democratic institutions.

The ‘Three Bobs’ Incident​

This past May, Washington state witnessed a troubling attempt to manipulate our electoral process. An Olympia-based Republican operative recruited two men named “Bob Ferguson” to file for governor of Washington — an apparent effort to confuse voters and undermine the campaign of Democratic frontrunner and Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson.

This wasn’t just a harmless prank but a calculated move that could have disenfranchised tens of thousands of voters.

Swift action by the Ferguson campaign, exercising established Washington law, brought the matter to a resolution. However, had the two fraudulent candidates not dropped out, many Washingtonians could have accidentally voted for the wrong “Bob Ferguson,” effectively nullifying their voice in this crucial election.

This incident is not isolated. We’ve seen similar tactics employed nationwide, often followed by attempts to spin the narrative and shift blame. In Washington, some commentators attacked Ferguson for defending the integrity of our elections, conveniently ignoring who created the problem in the first place. This is akin to accusing firefighters of arson while the arsonist walks free.

Voter Intimidation?​

More concerning still are the suggestions made by some political figures that undermine the accessibility and security of our voting process. Republican gubernatorial candidate Dave Reichert — who recently said, “I love Donald Trump’s policies…On policy, we’re aligned” — raised eyebrows when he suggested placing ballot drop boxes in gun stores and firing ranges “where we know we can protect our votes.” This proposal not only implies that our current voting system is insecure (it isn’t) but it is threatening and creates a very intimidating voter environment.

Washington’s elections are already safe and secure. According to the Washington Secretary of State’s office, our state has multiple safeguards, including signature verification, secure drop boxes, and a robust auditing processes. This is why when Trump attacked the United States Post Office in a blatant political attempt to undermine vote-by-mail — Ferguson went to court in Eastern Washington and stopped him, ensuring that millions of votes across the country were counted...............

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This is what we are now facing, polarized constituents and those ironically called the “right” side have broken bad, willing to entertain and spread every lie, if it means they’ll get their way through cheating. They’ve become anti-democratic, authoritarians, willing to go with the dictator *if* they think they’ll come out ahead. Half of our Congress currently is populated by representatives that these types have voted into office. We have some serious issues to overcome if we ever expect to see a happy ending.

 

[MT15]

FL is going to show us a taste of what Trump’s anti-immigrant policies would do to us nationally.

 

[superchuck500]

Great read:

Hypocrisy, Spinelessness, and the Triumph of Donald Trump

He said Republican politicians would be easy to break. He was right.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[MT15]

Around half of the GOP politicians are just bat shirt crazy. This is a sitting US Congressman.

 

[MT15]

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Around half of the GOP politicians are just bat shirt crazy. This is a sitting US Congressman.

The thing that pisses me off with the Republican Party, they are sooo hyper-focused on their multiple imaginary adversaries, they have succeeded in poisoning their base to believing their BS. When they are confronted with the real-world problems that are related to our infatuation with guns, they minimize and turn a blind eye to that issue to the detriment of all of us.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Around half of the GOP politicians are just bat shirt crazy. This is a sitting US Congressman.

He must be mad that they're killing the ducks by hand in a park instead of by shotgun in the wild before eating them, because he doesn't seem to have a problem with his constituents collectively killing thousands of ducks in the wild with shotguns before eating them.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

A solid third of the country don't have a problem with any of this and the remainder of the Republican Party will look the other way:

 

[bird]

Around half of the GOP politicians are just bat shirt crazy. This is a sitting US Congressman.

Looks like that azzhat just stumbled upon his re-election strategy.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

He must be mad that they're killing the ducks by hand in a park instead of by shotgun in the wild before eating them, because he doesn't seem to have a problem with his constituents collectively killing thousands of ducks in the wild with shotguns before eating them.

yea, we all know you are supposed to use automatic weapons for duck hunting....

 

[Optimus Prime]

The ‘Three Bobs’ Incident​

This past May, Washington state witnessed a troubling attempt to manipulate our electoral process. An Olympia-based Republican operative recruited two men named “Bob Ferguson” to file for governor of Washington — an apparent effort to confuse voters and undermine the campaign of Democratic frontrunner and Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson.

This wasn’t just a harmless prank but a calculated move that could have disenfranchised tens of thousands of voters.

Swift action by the Ferguson campaign, exercising established Washington law, brought the matter to a resolution. However, had the two fraudulent candidates not dropped out, many Washingtonians could have accidentally voted for the wrong “Bob Ferguson,” effectively nullifying their voice in this crucial election.

This incident is not isolated. We’ve seen similar tactics employed nationwide, often followed by attempts to spin the narrative and shift blame. In Washington, some commentators attacked Ferguson for defending the integrity of our elections, conveniently ignoring who created the problem in the first place. This is akin to accusing firefighters of arson while the arsonist walks free.

wasn't this basically the plot of that Eddie Murphy movie Distinguished Gentleman?

 

[MT15]

wasn't this basically the plot of that Eddie Murphy movie Distinguished Gentleman?

I know this was done in Florida recently by the GOP (of course).

 

[GrandAdmiral]

FL is going to show us a taste of what Trump’s anti-immigrant policies would do to us nationally.

Good. They deserve it.

 

[UriUT]

Florida Universities Tumble in 2025 Best College Rankings

Florida International University and the University of Florida were the only two Florida schools to crack the top 100.

www.miaminewtimes.com

Add declining universities to the list of Maga rule. It's not a bug. It's by design. Stack the state supreme courts, attack oppositions, use the executive to intimidate ex inmate voters, use it to intimidate activists, use it to attack local da s. Defy a voter referendum returning voting rights to ex cons.....

Every university in Florida dropped in ranking.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[efil4]

I don't think this "maga movement" will disappear soon as Trump gets rejected in November. The machine is too big and too ingrained within the GOP to fully flesh out in just a year or two.
More traditional Republicans will have to grow a spine and wrestle control back from this group and return some civility to their political discourse.

But I really think it's going to take serious work and lots of time to get all the roots out of the GOP.

These folks have been emboldened and think these words and actions have no real consequences.

It's a mess and I don't know how it gets fixed in the short term.