What happens to the Republican Party now? (1 Viewer)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[MT15]

Put this in the Biden thread, didn’t know you guys were on here. This is so dishonest.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

Well, its no secret they thrive on 'Alternative Facts". Its their go to...

 

[MT15]

So many Rs having hissy fits about the dress code in the Senate….

 

[MT15]

Sarah Sanders has pretty much stepped in it. This case is just wild, and she hasn’t stopped trying to cover it up yet. Still lying and spinning. (shocker, I know.)

 

[MT15]

Such a “profile in courage”. NOT

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

Yep, I feel the same:

 

[MT15]

Also, as an aside: Schumer is alone on the Senate floor making a motion about all the military promotions that have been blocked by Tuberville. I’m not sure if this means they can be voted on as a group or what.



It’s weird, he is asking for unanimous consent and his is the only voice. There is evidently a recorder or parliamentarian or somebody there - a female voice is calling for the vote - Schumer says Aye, and nobody says Nay, and the the lady says the motion carried.

Is that all it takes?

 

[MT15]

Ah, never mind….

 

[SFIDC3]

Such a “profile in courage”. NOT

What a disgraceful stammering idiot....this guy is a Rep? and a vet? Unbelievable really....

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

The Republicans will seemingly have an in house power struggle...
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Matt Gaetz announces plans to oust Kevin McCarthy from House speakership

Matt Gaetz announced he will file a motion to vacate against Kevin McCarthy to oust him for the speakership.

www.yahoo.com

 

[fooferdoggie]

I found this and it seems its what republicans are heading a dead end for both.

 

[efil4]

The Republicans will seemingly have an in house power struggle...
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Matt Gaetz announces plans to oust Kevin McCarthy from House speakership

Matt Gaetz announced he will file a motion to vacate against Kevin McCarthy to oust him for the speakership.

www.yahoo.com

This may, MAY, just be the impetus for more moderate/middle Rs to recognize that their party is held hostage by a small, but insanely vocal group of MAGAs and if they, in unison, turn to governance instead of attempting to "own" libs or Dems, that they can get their party back from captivity.

It's time for them to jettison the waste. If they don't, 2024 is going to be bad come November.

 

[MT15]

The Republicans will seemingly have an in house power struggle...
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Matt Gaetz announces plans to oust Kevin McCarthy from House speakership

Matt Gaetz announced he will file a motion to vacate against Kevin McCarthy to oust him for the speakership.

www.yahoo.com

I read (haven‘t checked yet if it’s true) that the House Rs are waiting on the Ethics report on Gaetz. If it says what they think it might say - that he took minors across state lines for sex purposes, among other offenses - they will expel him from the House. It was said the Ethics report will come out soon. I am skeptical - not that he did those things - I believe he did them. I am skeptical that House Rs will vote to expel him for doing them.

All this to say - Gaetz may have larger issues than worrying about McCarthy soon enough.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

This may, MAY, just be the impetus for more moderate/middle Rs to recognize that their party is held hostage by a small, but insanely vocal group of MAGAs and if they, in unison, turn to governance instead of attempting to "own" libs or Dems, that they can get their party back from captivity.

It's time for them to jettison the waste. If they don't, 2024 is going to be bad come November.

Well said!

 

[Optimus Prime]

Wasn’t sure what thread to put this in

So the link between politics and health/deaths was happening long before the pandemic response shined a light on the issue

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……Americans are more likely to die before age 65 than residents of similar nations, despite living in a country that spends substantially more per person on health care than its peers.

Many of those early deaths can be traced to decisions made years ago by local and state lawmakers over whether to implement cigarette taxes, invest in public health or tighten seat-belt regulations, among other policies, an examination by The Washington Post found. States’ politics — and their resulting policies — are shaving years off American lives.

Ashtabula’s problems stand out compared with two nearby counties — Erie, Pa., and Chautauqua, N.Y. All three communities, which ring picturesque Lake Erie and are a short drive from each other, have struggled economically in recent decades as industrial jobs withered — conditions that contribute toward rising midlife mortality, research shows.

None is a success story when it comes to health. But Ashtabula residents are much more likely to die young, especially from smoking, diabetes-related complications or motor vehicle accidents, than people living in its sister counties in Pennsylvania and New York, states that have adopted more stringent public health measures.

That pattern held true during the coronavirus pandemic, when Ashtabula residents died of covid at far higher rates than people in Chautauqua and Erie.

The differences around Lake Erie reflect a steady national shift in how public health decisions are being made and who’s making them.

State lawmakers gained autonomy over how to spend federal safety net dollars following Republican President Ronald Reagan’s push to empower the states in the 1980s.

Those investments began to diverge sharply along red and blue lines, with conservative lawmakers often balking at public health initiatives they said cost too much or overstepped.

Today, people in the South and Midwest, regions largely controlled by Republican state legislators, have increasingly higher chances of dying prematurely compared with those in the more Democratic Northeast and West, according to The Post’s analysis of death rates.

The differences in state policies directly correlate to those years lost, said Jennifer Karas Montez, director of the Center for Aging and Policy Studies at Syracuse University and author of several papers that describe the connection between politics and life expectancy.

Ohio sticks out — for all the wrong reasons. Roughly 1 in 5 Ohioans will die before they turn 65, according to Montez’s analysis using the state’s 2019 death rates.

The state, whose legislature has been increasingly dominated by Republicans, has plummeted nationally when it comes to life expectancy rates, moving from middle of the pack to the bottom fifth of statesduring the last 50 years, The Post found.

Ohioans have a similar life expectancy to residents ofSlovakia and Ecuador, relatively poor countries…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2023/republican-politics-south-midwest-life-expectancy/

 

[MT15]

This is who is backing the MAGA candidate for mayor of Franklin, TN. And the journalist they targeted response:

 

[Optimus Prime]

This could have gone in the weather thread too
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After a summer of floods, fires, and relentless heat, more Americans than ever are blaming extreme weather events on the climate crisis.

New polling from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Researchrevealed that 87 per cent of Americans have experienced at least one extreme weather event in the past five years, and three-quarters believe that climate change at least partially played a role.

But as with most hot-button issues, views cut down party lines. Nearly all Democrats (93 per cent) connected more extreme weather events to the climate crisis, compared to just under half of Republicans (48 per cent).

Although liberals and independents have been more likely to accept the scientific evidence of climate change, Republicans are quickly catching up.

The most recent poll showed a six per cent jump in Republicans linking extreme weather and climate from when AP-NORC posed the same question in April. The US South, home to predominantly red states, has experienced brutal, 100-plus degree temperatures for long stretches this summer.

When compared to data from 2017, provided toThe Independent by AP-NORC, Republican numbers have nearly doubled. Only 27 per cent of Republicans thought severe weather was caused “entirely or mostly by climate change” six years ago.

Yet, growing concern among Republican voters doesn’t appear to have registered with the party’s current crop of presidential candidates.

At the first GOP debate in August, the climate crisis was largely dismissed by candidates after a young conservative asked how they would “calm... fears that the Republican Party doesn’t care about climate change.”

The debate moderators then asked for a show of hands from candidates if they agreed that human behaviour was leading to rising temperatures. No hands went up.

Political newcomer Vivek Ramaswamy, a multimillionaire businessman from Ohio, was the most brazen in his denial. "The climate change agenda is a hoax,” he told the audience, and was met with boos.

Ron DeSantis obfuscated and criticised President Biden’s response to the Maui wildfires. The Florida governor is attempting to walk the fine line between the leader of a state being battered by more intense hurricanes and sea-level rise, and an “anti-woke,” anti-science agenda…….

Climate crisis concerns are growing among GOP voters. Why don’t candidates care?

Although Democrats and Independents have been more likely to accept the scientific evidence of climate change, Republican voters are quickly catching up, Louise Boyle and Eric Garcia report

www.independent.co.uk